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Aug-13-06
 | | Phony Benoni: So now I have my own Chess Forum. With any luck, this will not result in the world coming to an end. I suppose I need to set some standards here, although I hate doing stuff like that. I'm been working at the same place for 25 years now, and have spent most of my time avoiding being placed in a supervisory position. But I would like this area to focus on the obscure and the humorous, the sort of thing you would see on Tim Krabbé's Chess Curiosities page at http://www.xs4all.nl/~timkr/chess/c.... So if I do any zapping at all, it'll be of posts that strike me as illtempered or unnecessarily controversial. After all, I've always thought of chess as a release from my problems. The last thing I need is for it to become one. |
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| Aug-13-06 | | JoeWms: <Phony Benoni> A paradox lurks in your bio statement. Is this for real; therefore, a joke? <You'll find that many of my remarks are meant to be humorous. I do this deliberately, so that if my analysis stinks to high heaven I can always say that I was just joking.> |
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Aug-13-06
 | | Phony Benoni: <JoeWins> To paraphrase George Koltanowski: If I'm right, it was a serious statment; if I'm wrong, it was a joke. |
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| Aug-13-06 | | JoeWms: <Phony Benoni: I would like this area to focus on the obscure and the humorous.> May I stop by once in a while? |
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Aug-13-06
 | | Phony Benoni: I'd like try something I used to do with <Resignation Trap> back in the good old days before computers and databases when we did research using [GASP!] books and magazines. What you do is show an obscure game (which you hope the other person will not be able to locate using their resources) and ask for a guess about the strength of the players and the date of the game. So, what do you think of this one?
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 g6 6.Be3 Bg7 7.f3 Nc6 8.Qd2 0–0 9.Bc4 Bd7 10.Bb3 Rc8 11.0–0–0 Ne5 12.h4 h5 13.Bg5 Rc5 14.g4 hxg4 15.h5 Nxh5 16.Nd5 Rxd5 17.Bxd5 Qb6 18.c3 e6 19.Bb3 Nxf3 20.Nxf3 gxf3 21.Be3 Qc7 22.Rdg1 Kh7 23.Rxh5+ gxh5 24.Rxg7+ Kxg7 25.Bh6+ 1–0 |
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Aug-13-06
 | | Phony Benoni: <JoeWms> Fine with me. It'll be nice having someone to talk with |
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Aug-14-06
 | | Phony Benoni: A little puzzler for your enjoyment:
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White had just played Rg3-g6, with the obvious knight fork should the rook be taken, and Black countered with ...Nf6-g8. Over to you! |
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Aug-14-06
 | | TheAlchemist: Ok, I'll take a guess: 1.Rxe6 Qxe6 2.Qxe6 fxe6 3.Ng6+ Kh7 4.Nxf8+ Kh8 5.Ng6+ Kh7 6.Ne5+ Kh8 7.Nf7# |
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Aug-14-06
 | | Phony Benoni: Apparently this was not that difficult. It's reminiscent of a combination by (I think) Alekhine. By the way, I take it you also noticed 6...g6 7.Rf7+ Kg8 8.Ng6#. The knight is nothing if not versatile. |
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Aug-14-06
 | | TheAlchemist: <Apparently this was not that difficult. It's reminiscent of a combination by (I think) Alekhine.> Yes, that's where I remembered it from :-)
<6...g6 7.Rf7+ Kg8 8.Ng6#> Of course, I forgot to write that, clumsy me :-) Finally something I managed to solve :-) |
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Aug-14-06
 | | Phony Benoni: And, since I was a history major in the old days, I should mention the source: Paul Motta (2152)--Ron Pasik (1917), Oregon Open, 1990. |
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Aug-15-06
 | | Phony Benoni: In keeping with the theme of the Game of the Day (Kosten--Zelcic), we present the Saga of Janez Barle, who in successive rounds of the same tournament managed to be involved in games where the player with two queens lost. Odendahl,Steven - Barle,Janez [A62]
Lone Pine (7), 1979
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.g3 c5 4.d5 exd5 5.cxd5 d6 6.Nc3 g6 7.Bg2 Bg7 8.Nf3 0–0 9.0–0 Re8 10.Bf4 Nh5 11.Bg5 Qc7 12.e4 h6 13.Be3 Nd7 14.Nd2 a6 15.f4 f5 16.Bf2 Ndf6 17.e5 dxe5 18.fxe5 Rxe5 19.Nc4 Re8 20.d6 Qd8 21.Bxc5 Be6 22.Bb6 Qb8 23.Na5 Nd7 24.Bf2 Qd8 25.Nxb7 Qg5 26.Nd5 f4 27.Nc7 fxg3 28.hxg3 Nxg3 29.Re1 Ne5 30.Nxe6 Rxe6 31.Qb3 Kh7 32.Qxe6 Ng4 33.Re4 Nxf2 34.Kxf2 Rf8+ 35.Bf3 Nxe4+ 36.Qxe4 Rf4 37.Qe7 Qf5 38.Qe2 Bd4+ 39.Ke1 Rxf3 40.d7 Bxb2 41.Qe7+ Bg7 42.d8Q
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White's a queen up--but it's Black's move! The bishop on g7 might be paralyzed, but it's still powerful. 42...Rf1+ 43.Kd2 Qf4+ 44.Kd3 Rxa1 45.Qa5 Rd1+ 46.Kc2 Qc1+ 47.Kb3 Qb2+ 48.Kc4 Qd4+ 49.Kb3 Rb1+ 50.Ka3 Qb2+ 0–1 And now, from the very next round:
Lein,Anatoly - Barle,Janez [C28]
Lone Pine (8), 1979
1.e4 e5 2.Bc4 Nf6 3.d3 Nc6 4.Nc3 d6 5.Nge2 Be7 6.0–0 0–0 7.f4 Na5 8.Bb3 Nxb3 9.axb3 c6 10.fxe5 dxe5 11.Ng3 Bc5+ 12.Kh1 Ng4 13.h3 Nf2+ 14.Rxf2 Bxf2 15.Nf5 Bxf5 16.exf5 f6 17.Ne4 Bb6 18.Bd2 Bd4 19.Bc3 Bxc3 20.bxc3 b6 21.Ng3 a5 22.Ra4 b5 23.Rh4 a4 24.Qh5 a3 25.Qxh7+ Kf7 26.Rg4 Rg8 27.Nh5 Qf8 28.Nxf6 a2 29.Qg6+ Ke7 30.Ne4 a1Q+  click for larger viewThis time, the extra queen is probably winning. But I suspect there's time pressure in play here, and Lein doesn't give up that easily. In what follows, Black's rook moves along the sixth rank are particularly unfortunate. 31.Kh2 Kd8 32.Qxc6 Ra6 33.Qd5+ Kc7 34.f6 Rxf6 35.Qxe5+ Kb6 36.Qd4+ Kc6 37.Rg5 Rd6 38.Qc5+ Kd7 39.Qxb5+ Rc6 40.Qb7+ Rc7 41.Rd5+ Ke6 42.Ng5+ 1–0 |
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Aug-15-06
 | | WannaBe: <Phony Benoni> Those 2 games are not currently in the DB, would you care (please?!) upload them to CG.com? |
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Aug-15-06
 | | Phony Benoni: <WannaBe> I'd like to, but I've never been able to figure out how to transfer games from my ChessBase database into PGN format. Any hints? (Be advised that I am a technological idiot.) |
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Aug-15-06
 | | WannaBe: <Phony Benoni> What do you use to view the games? Fritz? Shredder? Junior? These interfaces all have a common GUI. What you need to do is this: File->Save As->(Choose your location, most likely desktop)->Type in a file name and the extension (.pgn) Then, using Notepad, open the file, (change File type to *.*) then Edit->Select All, Edit->Copy. Go to the Chessgames.com's PGN Upload Utility click on the input box, Edit->Paste. |
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Aug-15-06
 | | Phony Benoni: <WannaBe> Thanks for the very clear directions, but they don't seem to work for me. I don't view games with any of the options you mention, just ChessBase 7.0. It doesn't seem to have an option for File-Save As. There is Printing--Create Textfile, but the only options it gives for File Type are HTML, RTF, TXT, and DOC. I tried typing .PGN as part of the file name, but what came out appeared looked like this: Kasparov,G - Karpov,A [C92]
World Championship New York, N.Y. (4), 17.10.1990
[Northwest Chess, 1990:Nov.]
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.0-0 Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 d6 8.c3 0-0 9.h3 Bb7 10.d4 Re8 11.Nbd2 Bf8 12.a4 h6 13.Bc2 exd4 14.cxd4 Nb4 15.Bb1 c5 16.d5 Nd7 17.Ra3 f5 18.exf5 Nf6 19.Ne4 Bxd5 20.Nxf6+ Qxf6 21.Bd2 Qxb2 22.Bxb4 Bf7 23.Re6 Qxb4 24.Rb3 Qxa4 25.Bc2 Rad8 26.Rbe3 Qb4 27.g3 a5 28.Nh4 d5 29.Qe2 Qc4 30.Bd3 Qc1+ 31.Kg2 c4 32.Bc2 Bxe6 33.Rxe6 Rxe6 34.Qxe6+ Kh8 35.Ng6+ Kh7 36.Qe2 Qg5 37.f6 Qxf6 38.Nxf8+ Kg8 39.Ng6 Qf7 40.Ne7+ Kf8 ½-½ Which is clearly not in PGN format.
I'm sure I'm missing something very simple, but just don't know what. |
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Aug-15-06
 | | WannaBe: <Phony Benoni> I don't have ChessBase 7.0 so I have no way of knowing what steps are missing, if any. What you can do, is convert the header to PGN, that's all you need to do. And you can do that with a simple Notepad. Then submit it to Chessgames.com, the uploader will tell you if certain 'must' fields are missing, or the format of the PGN header(s) is/are wrong. |
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Aug-15-06
 | | Phony Benoni: <WannaBe> I've submitted the two games, and they appear to have passed muster for now. We'll see what happens. Thanks again for all your help. If this works out, I just may do some more. |
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Aug-15-06
 | | WannaBe: <Phony Benoni: ... If this works out, I just may do some more.> Please do, that would be a great!! The time it will take to reach the DB depends on busy the admins are. =) |
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| Aug-16-06 | | brankat: <Phony Benoni> Hi there! This shapes up like an interesting forum. Regarding J. Barle, I knew him in the late 60s wheen we were both teenagers.
I played one game against him (I was Black) in July of 1968 at the U-19 Championship of Croatia (then a part of Yugoslavia). It was in the 1st round and ended in a draw! I don't remember the game just that it was a variation of the Sicilian. He kept it up, I quit in 1971. |
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Aug-16-06
 | | Phony Benoni: <brankat> Thanks for stopping by! I am constantly amazed by the connectionns between people in the chess world. |
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Aug-16-06
 | | WannaBe: Let's see, if <brankat> was under 19 in 1968, (Let's say 18 years old) and now it's 2006... Let me count my fingers and toes. =) |
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Aug-16-06
 | | Phony Benoni: <WannaBe> Let me help you out here. Since <brankat> appears to be about the same age as myself, I can assure you (from bitter personal experience) that you are going to run out of fingers and toes long before finishing the computation, unless you are the main attraction at a circus sideshow. Have you considered utilizing modern technology, such as an abacus? |
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| Aug-16-06 | | dakgootje: Well there is a way of counting up to 60 (well 70 to be precise, but normally people count up to 60 that way) on your fingers without needing some more fingers/wife or chopping of the fingers of some local well-willing peasants. With the life experience of you guys i expect youve got an idea of which method i mean? |
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Aug-16-06
 | | Phony Benoni: <dakgootje> I'm not sure what you're talking about, unless it's that Chisenbop (sp?) thing. Remember, I'm part of the pre-new math generation. But why stop at 70? This site
http://www.intuitor.com/counting/
teaches you how to count to 1023 on your fingers. Here's how: "Counting in binary (or base two) is truly a skill to master. Representing a number in binary only requires two numerals (0 and 1). Therefore, we can let each finger represent one digit of a binary number. A raised finger represents a one (1), and a lowered finger represents a zero (0). In this fashion, it is possible to count on your fingers up to 1,023 (2^9 + 2^8 + 2^7 + 2^6 + 2^5 + 2^4 + 2^3 + 2^2 + 2^1 + 2^0). "However, caution is advised as the number four is prone to offend onlookers." |
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