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Jul-29-11 | | Beholder: <Sokrates: Boris Gelfand is an excellent chess-player, and I gladly grant him the opportunity to play for the world champion title.> How remarkably generous of you. |
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Jul-29-11 | | siamesedream: <Magnus Carlsen`s Blog
Biel Accentus-GM 2011 Final round
I played the Philidor against Caruana today and was satisfied with the opening. Bc5! gave me an initiative and I was slightly better for most of the game. Despite being tired due to the early start of the round I think I fought well and did not make any obvious mistakes. He got somewhat low on time close to the time control but managed to find a good defense. I offered a draw after move 39 in an equal ending. In summary I'm fairly satisfied with both the overall result (clear 1st with 19/30 or 7/10 with classical score), a couple of rating points gained, my score with black (+2=2-1), as well as the fighting spirit shown. I made too many mistakes, which is not unusual for me when facing opponents below the top 20 despite being motivated to do my best. The high altitude stay in the Alps prior to the tournament was a success and Switzerland is one of my favorite countries. The organizer deserves praise for a well-organized tournament as well a unique social event! Magnus Carlsen, July 29th, 2011 2011-07-29 23:03:41>
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Jul-29-11 | | Everett: <Sokrakes><On the bright side we still have broad-minded sponsors who arrange great tournaments and perhaps, in future, we should ignore FIDE and enjoy those tournaments as being better parametres of the state of elite strengths.> Well said! I Am thankful there are so many great events out there. And it is more pleasurable to focus on the bright side than the inconsistent work of FIDE. |
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Jul-30-11
 | | Open Defence: maybe this is the answer to have exciting tournaments, mix up the field and dont have the complete elite participate in a single tournament ? |
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Jul-31-11
 | | HeMateMe: <But it should go without saying that both the playing terms and the outcome of this candidates' circle doesn't reflect the actual status of the top players today> Actually, the outcome well reflects the status of those players who actively tried to become world champion. Aronian failed, due to nerves, a bad matchup of styles, or just a slow start in what is a very short match. He was the top seed. Magnus Carslen didn't play, because the quality of opposition was such that if MC had a bad day and lost an early game, he could lose the match. Carlsen's status is well seen here. He is always the favorite, but can lose games against such strong opposition. Rather than take such a simple risk, he took himself out of the equation. The result shows that Magnus Carlsen lacks the emotional fortitude to hold the world title. No harm in that. Bobby fischer wasn't ready till his late 20s. And, he then forfeited the title, rather than defend it. |
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Jul-31-11
 | | perfidious: <HeHateMe> By the end of the sixties, Fischer was refusing to compete in the US championship, as he well knew that a bad patch in such a relatively short event could spell ruination for even a player of his immense strength. Whilst I wasn't impressed with the tendency towards short draws in the recent WC playoffs, the format of short knockout matches merely encourages nervy play, plus the lack of willingness to take any risks. In such a lottery, the player with the strongest nerves is by far the most likely to survive, but when it comes to the title match, he's blown out of both ideas and nervous energy: we saw this in Anand-Karpov in the late 1990s. There must be a better way to arrive at a challenger for the supreme title than this! |
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Jul-31-11 | | Octavia: <Once again he has shown that the chess world can't ignore his candidacy for the highest title, disregarding candidate circles or whatever the enigmatic FIDE will stage. > I don't know much about chess, but the strong players always go on about the difference between tournaments & matches.
Carlsen hasn't played many matches, has he? If he'd joined in the cycle he'd have got a taste of it against other players before meeting the champ. This issue has nothing to do with Fide. I wished people would stop putting fide down - it's not helpful but does a lot of harm re sponsership. |
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Jul-31-11 | | pawn to QB4: <the strong players always go on about the difference between tournaments & matches> I'm not clear they do. Only view I'm familiar with on the subject is Korchnoi's: "there are strong players and weak players, anything else is a contrivance". In any case, I'd have though Carlsen would soon be a formidable match player: he comes across as psychologically solid. Get an advantage or win against him and he's still there playing strong moves; many's the time we've seen him go 80, 100 moves, pushing for wins or hanging on for as long as it takes. The Candidates' format was ridiculous - too much luck involved in short matches, and the more luck in the format, the greater the discrimination against the stronger players. |
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Jul-31-11 | | Interbond: HeMateMe said:"Carlsen's status is well seen here. He is always the favorite, but can lose games against such strong opposition. Rather than take such a simple risk, he took himself out of the equation. The result shows that Magnus Carlsen lacks the emotional fortitude to hold the world title." So you don't believe his protest against the Fide system?
BTW any top player also World Champions can lose games. Also Anand loses somteimes. And when I-am writing this it seems that one of the most solid top players -Kramnik- is losing against Nakamura , but the games is not over yet. Miracles have happened before... |
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Jul-31-11 | | bronkenstein: Octavia, +1 , first part is well known , and too often ignored here . And <I wished people would stop putting fide down - it's not helpful but does a lot of harm re sponsership.> is not going to happen anytime soon , its practically impossible to ignore some of their ˝actions˝. |
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Jul-31-11 | | kappertjes: Yeah, stop putting FIDE down so it's president the Ilyumzhinov can have coffee with Gadaffi in peace! Seriously, what we say about lousy FIDE has little to no impact compared to antics like that. To think Karpov might have been president, that would have been a bit like having someone everybody respected like Euwe in the saddle again. Anyway, maybe I am an idiot but I did not join the local chess club because ultimately they are part of FIDE and I do not like paying contribution to that organization. |
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Jul-31-11 | | jamesmaskell: <kappertjes> Ignore what FIDE do. A lot of us are bemused by their actions. Join a local chess club. The practice will do you good Im sure. |
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Jul-31-11
 | | HeMateMe: It's a shame the Carlsen worshippers can't lift their collective blindfold long enough to see the truth. He walked away from a chance to become world champion. I think only Bobby Fischer has done something that shows such acute paranoia of losing. It's a shame. MC lacks the killer instinct of people like Karpov, Kasparov and Korchnoi. Until he develops such a quality, he won't be world champion. |
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Jul-31-11 | | karban: <He walked away from a chance to become world champion.> Hehe, yes and so what? Did the chess world destroy or something like that? I say again maybe he will never play for it and so what? His decision, at least oficcially. He's a chess legend already(nobody can take it from him) how he want to convert it is as someone said "matter of taste" (in comments about the Game Kramnik-Carlsen:)) So his position is winning but if he want to be the non-WC legend or the WC-legend I don't know. |
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Jul-31-11
 | | HeMateMe: <He's a chess legend already> No, he isn't. |
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Jul-31-11 | | karban: <He's a chess legend already> No, he isn't.> In my opinion yes, because of his achievements, his style sometimes arrogance, his wins an losses. At the moment I'd compare him with Morphy(is he the legend for you), others like Kasparov are in another league because of durable of his play. Or he is only good player like a bunch of others? |
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Jul-31-11
 | | HeMateMe: What are the qualifications to being a "legend"? A career like Karpov or Anand? Carlsen is a bit young to be considered a "legend". Huge potential. But, he has to accomplish a bit more. Fischer was a legend even before becoming world champion. He had earned that distinction. |
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Jul-31-11 | | Rolfo: Yes he is. Two times Chess Oscar winner already, world #1 by rating, respected by contemporary players, by older legend players, by world chess press and commentators. And yet the best to come |
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Jul-31-11
 | | perfidious: <Octavia: ....the strong players always go on about the difference between tournaments & matches.> While not a GM by any stretch, I can tell you that there is a difference between the two, from my own experience. <pawn to QB4: ....Only view I'm familiar with on the subject is Korchnoi's: "there are strong players and weak players, anything else is a contrivance".> While an admirer of Korchnoi's fighting qualities, I consider this statement oversimplified; there are a lot of grey areas in the world. |
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Jul-31-11 | | Interbond: HeHateMe that's what you think. So you don't think it's possible to protest against FIDE by not playing. If you protest in that way it's only because you are afraid to lose in your opinion. Carlsen is still playing in top tournaments, very often he wins, even if he loses a game or two. Sometimes he doesn't with a tournament , but still is in the top 3. If he lost a candidate match so what? He can still try again next time like he will have to do now. Your claim that he is afraid of losing is just speculation you have no evidence at all. In Biel he lost to Vachier-Lagrave, so now he is so afraid of losing that he won't play for a long time!? Well, I don't think so...... |
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Jul-31-11
 | | HeMateMe: I think he already has a paranoia of losing to the very best players. I believe he avoided the likes of Aronian, Gelfand, Kamsky, Grischuk, and, indirectly, Anand, because his large ego won't let him accept a moderate chance of losing a match. I would think most great players have a healthy ego. Certainly Karpov and Kasparov did not lack for big ego and confidence. The difference between people like that and Magnus Carlsen (or, say, Bobby Fischer) is that a Karpov or Kasparov can control this volatile quality and accept the challenge of chess at the highest levels, even when playing conditions are not 100% of what one desires. Korchnoi's whole family was barred from emigrating to the West. Did he walk out? No, he played a great match with Karpov in the Phillippines. A lot of people feel the same way I do. This is an old argument, isn't it? I've followed the careers of fighters like Korchnoi and Kasparov my whole life. Such people would never refuse a chance to play match(es) for the world championship. If MC plays the next cycle, and wins it all, then this non action of his will mostly be forgotten. But, for those who feel world chess has grown stagnant and sponsorship is weak, you can look directly at Magnus Carlsen for walking out on the world championships. If chess is a sport, Magnus Carlsen is a weak sportsman. |
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Jul-31-11 | | Interbond: I wonder what Carlsen would think if he read your posts? Perhaps HeHateMe....? |
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Jul-31-11
 | | HeMateMe: I'm sure Magnus Carlsen has read many such comments. Probably more so on the Chessdotcom site than here. He turned his back on the sport that has made him a wealthy man, at a very young age. The Candidates matches are the olympics of chess, the very apex of this game/sport. If MC has to play a tournament for a $3,000 appearance fee sponsored by Heinz Beans, in the near future, I won't feel sorry for him at all. Not one bit. |
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Jul-31-11
 | | tpstar: <He turned his back on the sport that has made him a wealthy man> Carlsen is the one elite player that goes out of his way to promote the game - his insightful blog entries, his friendly interviews, his multiple simuls, and you could even include his fighting spirit here. He is doing more than his p.r. share; it is all of the other players who are way too passive, including WC Anand, as they would rather let the game come to them. Regarding the WC cycle, let's review what Carlsen himself said after the big announcement in November 2010: Q: Magnus, you've got to feel a bit uneasy about this momentous decision? Magnus Carlsen: It's been a difficult process. But now that the decision has been taken, I actually feel relieved. Q: Even if that means you will be missing an entire World Championship cycle? MC: The World Championship cycle will last for almost five years, and with constant rule changes. It takes too much effort to deal with the political part of the process. I would therefore like to focus my energy on developing my skills as a chess player, and to defend my position as number one in the world rankings. Q: How do you think the chess public will react to your action? Many may think you are throwing away a golden chance. MC: Well, I understand if they are a bit puzzled, but I have to make the decision that I think is best for me and my career. Q: Does this mean that you will not participate in a World Championship in the future? MC: No, no, absolutely not. I hope that there will be changes in the future. It is clear that I will be back in it then. The decision now applies only to the current world championship cycle. Q: With your decision are you making a special point against FIDE? MC: No, it is a personal decision based on what I think is best for me. *****
Note Carlsen specifically says he is not fighting FIDE here. although nine months later the "principled stance" spin by his fans rings hollow with no alternative WC cycle proposal from Team Carlsen anywhere in sight. |
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Jul-31-11 | | DrMAL: Magnus Carlsen is 20 years old. He listens to those older and wiser than him, the reason why he has done what he has lately regarding tournaments. What would he think when reading such criticisms? Nothing much I'm sure, maybe a chuckle to himself considering the wisdom of their source. |
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