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| Oct-25-21 | | RookFile: Frank Marshall was a longtime us champion too but maybe he should have played more matches. |
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| Oct-25-21 | | Absentee: <Not only because he had the most consecutive wins, but because he didn't repudiate his adopted homeland. Reshevsky also wasn't a deranged bigot who cared more about himself than the immense harm he caused everyone else.> Which is related to chess... how? |
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| Oct-25-21 | | nok: <Not only because he had the most consecutive wins, but because he didn't repudiate his adopted homeland.> Fischer didn't repudiate his adopted homeland (Iceland) either. |
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| Oct-25-21 | | RookFile: The kind of harm Fischer caused for chess involved transforming the game nobody played into a nationwide craze, improving the playing conditions, and making it possible for a chess professional to live on tournament winnings alone. Truly horrible, I don't know if we'll ever recover. |
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Oct-25-21
 | | moronovich: A fine comment, <RookFile> ! |
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| Oct-26-21 | | suenteus po 147: <The kind of harm Fischer caused for chess involved transforming the game nobody played into a nationwide craze, improving the playing conditions, and making it possible for a chess professional to live on tournament winnings alone.> Wow, fifty years ago, dude. The advent of computerized analysis and online play has a hell of a lot more to do with chess as a profession now than any shenanigans that Fischer stirred up back in the day. He was only in it for himself. He could have been an ambassador for the game like Karpov, Kasparov, or Anand, but instead he chose to take his earnings and notoriety and tuck tail between his legs and ship off. And you know, good riddance. What he did was bad enough, it would have been even worse if he had stayed around. And we are recovering. It took the likes of the world champions listed above to rehabilitate the idea of the chess champion from the paranoid loner who is more at home in the Unabomber's bunker than a dignified player on the international stage as a representative for fellow professionals and young athletes. |
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Oct-26-21
 | | perfidious: Had Fischer not yanked title funding out of the Stone Age in 1972, who knows when it might have come into line with reality? That said, I do not propose to defend the way he conducted his life away from the board, but prefer to separate the one from the other. Great player, flawed human being, as we all are in various ways. |
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| Oct-26-21 | | suenteus po 147: <nok: Fischer didn't repudiate his adopted homeland (Iceland) either.> Touché |
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| Oct-26-21 | | not not: the guy who in area of no computer would find a series of 10!!!!! or 15!!!! ONLY moves on defence AND on offence is compared to patzers (called super GMs) who cannot find 1 ONLY move in the position let alone series of 15 show some respect to the LEGEND and stfu |
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| Oct-26-21 | | suenteus po 147: <perfidious: Great player, flawed human being, as we all are in various ways.> I like the implication within your syntax that we are all great players in one way or another :-D <not not> A little too much espresso in your coffee this morning. And a little too much saliva in your boot licking. |
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Oct-26-21
 | | Williebob: I like a shot of espresso in a cup of coffee sometimes. Some baristas call it a "red eye".
A barista at a Starbucks once told me that they called a cup of coffee with three shots added a "Kennedy".
Is there any reason to believe that Fischer had calculating abilities beyond anything we've seen before or since? Methinks <not not> doth protest too much! |
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Oct-26-21
| | Williebob: Agreed with <perfidious>, Fischer's legacy is a mixed bag with definite pluses and minuses for the profession and the popular image of the chess player.
One thing seems for sure: Gone are the days of media-stirring, Cold War-agitating, conspiracy-theorizing, anti-hypnosis-sunglasses-wearing weirdo chess. FIDE is no longer personally bankrolled by a tyrant leader of a small oppressed country. The days when you could seriously argue that chess was as corrupt as boxing are probably gone. This is probably good for chess, though arguably it is less sexy now - to put it in business terms. |
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Oct-26-21
 | | saffuna: <The days when you could seriously argue that chess was as corrupt as boxing are probably gone. > Boxing still exists? |
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Oct-27-21
 | | HeMateMe: Why were there no USA chess championship tournaments in 1937 and 1939? |
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Oct-27-21
| | Williebob: The 2-year cycle was mostly the norm for USCF closed championships from its inception in 1936 up to 1957, when the adoption of the annual cycle neatly coincided with the arrival of Fischer. |
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| Oct-27-21 | | EdwinKorir: Link to the Grandswiss? |
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Oct-27-21
| | HeMateMe: I had no idea there was ever a time when the USA championship was not a yearly event. Good grief, it's just a damn chess tournament. Lazy sumbitches couldn't hold a chess tournament once a year? Couldn't get up $100 for the big first place prize? No wonder we sucked at chess. Even broke, corrupt Russia managed to put some incentive into their chess program. Great players got an apartment in a relatively modern building, got a shiddy (but impossible to get) new car [Yugo or Lada], straight off the line from Russia or eastern europe, maybe some travel opportunities to earn and spend dollars in the west. All of it more than American chess players were getting at the time. |
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Oct-28-21
| | perfidious: Canadian title events were held even less often in the post-WWII period, as those were only played every three years, with the victor qualifying for the Interzonal, through the 1978 cycle at least. |
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| Oct-31-21 | | ortznoi: some people instead of congratulating the winners they keep talking about irrelevant topics and have no appreciation of our winners |
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Oct-31-21
 | | Check It Out: Point in case. |
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| Oct-31-21 | | ortznoi: So much talks about dead people let them go talks about living great chess players are more relevant. Enough of those details of the dead we want to know bigger money for chess tournaments and not the organizers pocket the money because of chess. |
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Oct-31-21
 | | alexmagnus: <So much talks about dead people> So true.
Even when talking about living people, they keep talking about dead or inactive people. "He (name any player) plays like Lasker" - "Na, like Kasparov". No, whoever the talk is about, he plays like himself, not like he is possessed by Lasker or Kasparov. |
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| Nov-04-21 | | Noflaps: When @Williebob@ mentions Reshevsky, as in:
"Reshevsky dominated US Chess for decades, there can be no doubt."He shows himself to be a man (judging by the pipe) of fine chess culture, and makes me happy to add: And Reuben Fine was no weakling, either. Indeed, Fine breezed through high school quickly and early, and mastered about everything he did in life. And then there's Kashdan....
Fischer was great, no doubt, but there have actually been several really fine American players that too many young whippersnappers don't even know about. Makes me want to shout "get off my lawn, whipersnappers." But I think I'll have a cup of coffee instead, and then press fresh creases into my lovely polyester leisure suit. |
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| Nov-04-21 | | Z truth 000000001: <Noflaps> - great name & icon. (Not so sure about the suit!) |
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| Nov-04-21 | | tonsillolith: <alexmagnus:
Even when talking about living people, they keep talking about dead or inactive people. "He (name any player) plays like Lasker" - "Na, like Kasparov". No, whoever the talk is about, he plays like himself, not like he is possessed by Lasker or Kasparov.>Yes, indeed. I'm reminded of a car enthusiast friend of mine complaining about some advertisements about a car with a 5-cylinder engine: "It has the power of a 6 cylinder, but the efficiency of a 4 cylinder!" "That's a load of bull. It has the power of a 5 cylinder and the efficiency of a 5 cylinder!" |
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