| Hastings 1929/30 |
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The tenth Hastings Christmas Chess Festival was held December 27, 1929 to January 4, 1930. Once again ten chess masters from England, the European continent, and the Americas were invited to participate in the round robin event, notably former World Champion Jose Capablanca, Geza Maróczy, and Milan Vidmar. Capablanca won in fine fashion, finishing undefeated with 4 wins and 5 draws. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 Pts
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1 Capablanca • ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ 1 ½ 1 1 6.5
2 Vidmar ½ • ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ 5.5
3 Yates ½ ½ • ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ 0 1 5.0
4 Maroczy ½ ½ ½ • ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 4.5
5 Sergeant 0 0 ½ ½ • 1 0 1 ½ 1 4.5
6 Takacs ½ ½ 0 ½ 0 • ½ ½ 1 1 4.5
7 Thomas 0 ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ • 1 0 ½ 4.5
8 Winter ½ 0 ½ ½ 0 ½ 0 • 1 1 4.0
9 Menchik 0 ½ 1 ½ ½ 0 1 0 • 0 3.5
10 Price 0 ½ 0 ½ 0 0 ½ 0 1 • 2.5
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20 incomplete or lost games are not included in the database:Round 1: Menchik 0 Price, Sergeant 1/2 Yates
Round 2: Maroczy 1/2 Menchik, Vidmar 1/2 Takacs, Yates 1/2 Winter
Round 3: Maroczy 1/2 Sergeant, Vidmar 1/2 Price
Round 4: Price 1/2 Maroczy, Thomas 1/2 Yates
Round 5: Maroczy 1/2 Vidmar, Takacs 1/2 Winter
Round 6: Thomas 1/2 Takacs, Yates 1 Price
Round 7: Maroczy 1/2 Yates, Price 0 Winter
Round 8: Takacs 1 Menchik, Thomas 1/2 Price, Winter 1/2 Maroczy
Round 9: Maroczy 1/2 Thomas, Menchik 1/2 Sergeant Original collection: Game Collection: Hastings 1929/30, by User: suenteus po 147.
Previous: Hastings (1928/29). Next: Hastings (1930/31)
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Mar-31-14
 | | Phony Benoni: Here is a list of the 20 missing games. Exact colors are uncertain. Round 1: Yates 1/2 Sergeant, Menchik 0 Price
Round 2: Winter 1/2 Yates
Round 3: Maroczy 1/2 Sergeant, Vidmar 1/2 Price
Round 4: Yates 1/2 Thomas, Maroczy 1/2 Price
Round 6: Thomas 1/2 Takacs, Yates 1 Price
Round 7: Winter 1 Price, Yates 1/2 Maroczy
Round 8: Thomas 1/2 Price
Round 9: Sergeant 1/2 Menchik, Maroczy 1/2 Thomas
Exact rounds could not be determined for these games. They were played in rounds 2, 5, 8: Vidmar 1/2 Takacs
Vidmar 1/2 Maroczy
Maroczy 1/2 Menchik
Maroczy 1/2 Takacs
Maroczy 1/2 Winter
Takacs 1/2 Winter |
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| Mar-31-14 | | zanzibar: <Phony> Have you used BritBase's Hastings-1 zip file? I have a complete crosstable for the tournament - with summary scores agreeing with your x-table (xtab). (If you ordered ties alphabetically I could check your xtab more completely) Anyways - here's the link to the BritBase PGN where you can find your "missing" games: http://www.saund.co.uk/britbase/pgh...
http://www.saund.co.uk/britbase/has...
BritBase is a pretty reliable source afaict. If you find contradictions from primary sources there is a corrections page you can post to: http://www.saund.co.uk/britbase/Bri... |
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Mar-31-14
| | Phony Benoni: <zanzibar> This collection--and many of the other Hastings--were compiled by <suenteus po 147>, and I'm not sure of his methods. However, the first thing I did when working on Hasiings was to download everything from BritBase. Unfortunately, when starting clean-up work yesterday I forgot they had round numbers for all the games, not just the complete ones. Could have saved myself a lot of trouble., so I'll go back and recheck this. The problem with BritBase, of course, are the fragments. These were probably complied from contemporaryreports that provided the name of the opening, but not the entire score They are useful for BritBase's purposes, but are not appropriate for ours. Crosstables. Again, I don't know <suenteus po 147>'s' practice, but I use ChessBase to produce these automatically when all the game information is present. This breaks ties by Sonnenborg-Berger. Producing an alphabetic sort would be a manual step for me, though I do have a Primitive Excel Spreadsheet that would help. (The PES is about the limit of my technical ability.) (Of course, if you ordered ties by S-B, you could check my xtab more completely.) Sorry, I couldn't resist. But now I'm curious to see how quickly I can do an alphabetic crosstable. |
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Mar-31-14
| | Phony Benoni: There you go. Ten minutes is probably an eternity for somebody who knows what they're doing around computers, but it's what I can do. Still, I'm going to stick to my ChessBase xtabs until a Prime Directive tells me otherwise. And that doesn't come easy for me. You know what they say: <"Librarians do it by the book ... and in alphabetical order."> |
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| Mar-31-14 | | zanzibar: Hi <Phony>.
Yes, now that I think about it, I have CBase Light 2009, and could do the xtab with SB too. Meet you 1/2 = way? (Pun intended). SCID is free and available to all, so I do think it might be a good ref/standard. I need to double-check how it does tiebreaks - now that I'm paying attention. We talked about this before - briefly. Since SB isn't always used in practice, it would be nice if software allowed a row to be dragged to a new position and recalculate. For instance, a play-off might decide placement - entirely outside the xtab data. BTW- I wasn't aware that BritBase had a lot of fragment games. I know that there are missing games prominently displayed on one of the BritBase pages. For the two tournaments I posted on I'll look at #moves and see if BritBase had fragments on either. Cheers |
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| Mar-31-14 | | zanzibar: Update - thanks for opening my eyes on that. Indeed, BritBase has a complete xtab but only game fragments for 20 of the games, just like you said. Thanks for the explanation. |
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Jul-10-17
 | | Sally Simpson: For playing in this event Capablanca asked for and apparently received, an appearance fee of £100, £20 travelling expenses and free hotel accommodation. (page 29 'Battles of Hastings' by Reg Cload.) |
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Jul-10-17
 | | keypusher: <Sally Simpson: For playing in this event Capablanca asked for and apparently received, an appearance fee of £100, £20 travelling expenses and free hotel accommodation.> I'll bet the organizers were thrilled with his battles against Takacs, Maroczy, Vidmar, and Yates. |
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Jul-10-17
| | Sally Simpson: Hi K.P.
The book also continues they had a meeting to decide who should play in the Hastings (1930/31) event. Alekhine or Capablanca. That was the time when one would not play if the other was there. They voted for Alekhine, whose appearance conditions were roughly the same as Capa's. But Alekhine declined and Capa again played there. |
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| Jul-10-17 | | morfishine: Whats fairly remarkable is notwithstanding the fact that Capa won, which was an almost foregone conclusion, but that Vidmar and Menchik finished so well Its also wonderful to see Sergeant make such a grand showing finishing ahead of such stalwarts as Moroczy, Yates, Thomas and Winter ***** |
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| Jul-10-17 | | Boomie: -}
<morfishine: Whats fairly remarkable is notwithstanding the fact that Capa won, which was an almost foregone conclusion, but that Vidmar and Menchik finished so well> There are quite a few games missing from the DB. Notice the cross table in the notes, which shows the real standings. Menchik played her rating. Vidmar was the second strongest player in the tourney as Maroczy was well beyond his prime. Vidmar was a top ten player according to Chessmetrics. http://chessmetrics.com/cm/CM2/Play... |
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