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Apr-11-17 | | AlicesKnight: 33.Qxe8+ seems to serve; if ...Kxe8 then 34.Nxf6forks K and Q, while ...Qxe8 allows 34.Nxf6 discovering check and winning the Q. One to savour for Bisguier even though Fischer won 13 (is this right? - not checked) against him afterwards. |
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Apr-11-17 | | saturn2: Qxe8 gets material advantage no matter how black retakes. Nc3 or Ne3 forking the queen does not work because of Rd6. |
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Apr-11-17 | | ChessHigherCat: It's easy finding the winning move, what about the "almost winning move"?: Nc3, Rd6 and White is busted! |
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Apr-11-17 | | newzild: <ChessHigherCat> After 33. Nc3? Rd6 34. Rxd6 Qxd6 35. Qxd6 Nxd6 White is hardly busted - the position is equal. |
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Apr-11-17 | | ChessHigherCat: <newzild: <ChessHigherCat> After 33. Nc3? Rd6 34. Rxd6 Qxd6 35. Qxd6 Nxd6 White is hardly busted - the position is equal.>
I was just kidding about the "busted" part, I meant that it looks great at first like it pins the queen but doesn't really. |
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Apr-11-17 | | morfishine: <33.Qxe8+> does the trick since both replies 33...Kxe8 & 33...Qxe8 are crushed by <34...Nxf6+> ***** |
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Apr-11-17 | | WorstPlayerEver: Ghe I just beat Bobby in a few seconds. Spread the newse! |
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Apr-11-17 | | patzer2: The four pawns attack in the King's Indian is a tough nut for Black to crack, even for Bobby Fischer. According to the computers, Black's game starts to go bad with 12...a6? 13. e5! . Instead, 12...Nc6 = to , which prevents the strong 13. e5!, is better. Earlier, instead of 9...Bd7 = which resulted in wins for Bisguier in this game and also in Bisguier vs D Sprenkle, 1979, the computers suggest 9...Nd7 = to as best for Black.
Though the computer assessment may be correct, limited practical results as in Bisguier vs Popovych, 1969 have not favored the second player with 9...Nd7 = to . Instead, the slightly more popular 9...Be6 as in V Mikenas vs S Yuferov, 1973 has given Black decent results in master games. Another good alternative here is 9...Qb6 = as in D Andric vs Gligoric, 1951. In today's easy Tuesday puzzle position, the obvious 33. Qxe8+ wins with either a Knight Fork or a discovered check after 34. Nxf6+ . |
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Apr-11-17 | | patzer2: Interestingly, the next time Bisguier had a chance to play the four pawns attack against Bobby's King's Indian he avoided it with 4. Nf3 and lost badly in Bisguier vs Fischer, 1961. This game was Fischer's first and only loss against this strong opponent. Bobby would go on to amass a 13-1-1 record against three time former US Champion Arthur Bisguire. |
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Apr-11-17 | | messachess: The 13 year old Fischer. |
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Apr-11-17 | | stst: Monday stuff:
33.QxN+ either KxQ or QxQ ===> 34.NxR+ or dis+ ==> Black Q gone. White exchanges sig. up. |
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Apr-11-17 | | stst: Initial reaction: Are the names of the game being switched by mistake? But of course, Fish lost games throughout his life, so does anyone. |
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Apr-11-17 | | Petrosianic: The fact that this still takes people by surprise shows what an unrealistic view people tend to have of things. It's why people like Harry Lime despise the real Bobby Fischer for not being the mythical demigod they've built up in their minds. It doesn't get more perverse than that. |
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Apr-11-17 | | Tiggler: Since 33.Nxf6 does not work, because of the capture with check on d1, it is not to hard to see that 33.Qxe8+ first has to be the move. Do you have to be God's gift to chess to see this? |
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Apr-11-17 | | JohnTal: After this game, Fischer turned Bisguier into his favorite whipping boy. |
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Oct-10-17
 | | FSR: King Arthur. |
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May-10-18
 | | Richard Taylor: <cunctatorg> Interesting. Fischer spent hours analysing chess. He worked on it with the mania of an Alekhine and also like Kasparov later. The strange psychology of Fischer also explains why it is almost as if he didn't really want to win the World Championships. There was a complex love-hate thing in regard to chess and to his 'father' the US and so on. An analysis like yours was made by the OSS of Hitler during WWII. It was by a psychoanalyst and the picture made sense. Austria was his mother and Germany his father etc, & he would eventually commit suicide and so on. Fischer adopted similar ideas to the Nazis and slowly or quickly the tragedy (Greek?) unwound. His was a case of 'Whom the Gods would destroy, they first make mad.' His games are almost irrelevant now in the light of his fascinating, bizarre, and tragic life. |
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May-10-18
 | | Check It Out: <RT> I would say that Fischer’s games are the most relevant aspect of his multi-faceted life, which was centered around chess. |
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Jul-23-19 | | PhilFeeley: Forgive me if this has been asked before, but what's wrong with 31. Ne7? |
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Jul-23-19
 | | beatgiant: <PhilFeeley>
31. Ne7 Qc5+ 32. Kh1 <Qxe7> picks up the knight because of the back-rank mate threat (33. Rxe7?? Rf1#) |
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Jul-24-23 | | N.O.F. NAJDORF: <Richard Taylor:
Fischer adopted similar ideas to the Nazis and slowly or quickly the tragedy (Greek?) unwound...> Larry Evans, who like Fischer had two Jewish parents, related that after he and a teenage Fischer left a movie theatre, which had featured a documentary about Hitler, he was shocked to hear Fischer say that he admired Hitler. When Evans asked him why, he replied: 'because he imposed his will on the world.' That shows that Fischer recognised a kindred spirit in Hitler: someone who had such a raging inferiority complex that he had to conquer the world. It also shows that he had the same self-destructive instinct. Evans also related that one day, when Fischer was ranting about the Jews, his mother said to him: 'what makes you think you're so pure?' it is quite clear that he lived in some kind of dream world in which he was someone else. He admitted during his interview with Ralph Ginzburg that his mother was Jewish, but he must have been aware by then that his father was Jewish too - and we know from a remark made by his Hungarian girlfriend that he knew that Fischer Senior was not his real father. Yet later in life, he was reported to be denying even that his mother had been Jewish. In my opinion, his anti-Semitism dates from about the age of nine, at which age his father died and around the age of which he started to have feelings of intellectual inferiority towards his mother's Jewish associates. |
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Aug-09-23
 | | kingscrusher: Funny bit of trivia - this is the only game Fischer had to play against the Four Pawns Attack variation. |
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Aug-09-23 | | Olavi: <kingscrusher:> Two games with Uhlmann:
Uhlmann vs Fischer, 1960
Uhlmann vs Fischer, 1962 |
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Aug-09-23
 | | kingscrusher: Ahh those were Be2 and then f4 - interesting move order but yes they are also four pawns attack games. I had my incorrect conclusion from using the opening explore of Fischer with f4 right away. Thanks for that. |
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Apr-26-25
 | | GrahamClayton: <JohnTal>After this game, Fischer turned Bisguier into his favorite whipping boy. <JohnTal>,
Indeed - Fischers record was +13, =1, -0 over their remaining competitive games. |
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