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| Apr-22-13 | | Everett: Funny also when Black is always having trouble developing his LSB. The C-K addresses this by definition, yet someone forgot to tell Liren that his DSB needs attention too! |
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| Apr-22-13 | | Everett: Perhaps bishops are problem pieces for the C-K player in general. Bronstein vs Beliavsky, 1975 |
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| Apr-23-13 | | anandrulez: This was a CHESS GAME period |
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| Apr-23-13 | | ozmikey: <Perhaps bishops are problem pieces for the C-K player in general.> Trust me, as a lifetime C-K aficionado, they are. If you handle the Steinitz Variation (for instance) too passively, the QB becomes an absolute donkey. If you misplay the Advance Variation, your QB can get into horrible trouble on the king-side, often only resolved at the cost of a laughable pawn structure - this game is a classic example. And the KB can get into trouble too in some lines, notably the Panov. |
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| Apr-23-13 | | weisyschwarz: <Marmot> I was thinking the same thing: maybe time ran out on Ding. |
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| Apr-23-13 | | Eyal: Ding resigned the game with about 15 minutes left on his clock, in case anyone is really wondering. Actually, if he'd been in time trouble he would probably play until the time control, but as it were he had enough time to think and fully realize just how hopeless his position was. |
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| Apr-23-13 | | Catholic Bishop: Looks like Ding's playing a different game in this tournament. In the first game with Aronian he gets into a ko fight on c5 on d5. Here he creates a huge moyo in the top left then castles into it. |
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| Apr-23-13 | | Everett: <ozmikey: <Perhaps bishops are problem pieces for the C-K player in general.>
Trust me, as a lifetime C-K aficionado, they are. If you handle the Steinitz Variation (for instance) too passively, the QB becomes an absolute donkey. If you misplay the Advance Variation, your QB can get into horrible trouble on the king-side, often only resolved at the cost of a laughable pawn structure - this game is a classic example. And the KB can get into trouble too in some lines, notably the Panov.> Thank you for your insight into the C-K. If you don't mind a quick question, is there any merit to playing <1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 Nh6> to the advanced variation? |
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| Apr-23-13 | | chinokoli: The best game I've seen this year!!! Absolutely amazing chess. I literally had my jaw down from move 10. Awesome by MVL. |
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| Apr-24-13 | | twinlark: This reminds me of an amusing game played a long time ago, where Black launches a king side attack...and then finds that after a simplifying combination his king is the only active piece left to face White's army: Lokvenc vs O Trinks, 1925 |
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Apr-24-13
 | | OhioChessFan: 10. Kd2 is the Delayed Wannabe Gambit, Queenside Variation |
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| Apr-24-13 | | Eyal: Well, the fact that White can so easily get away here with something like 10.Kd2 is a good indication of how atrocious Black's prospects become once he allows White to put the pawn on e6 and can't force it away from there. |
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| Apr-25-13 | | haydn20: I just got around to this, uh, "thing, and already I'm not seeing why not 7...fxe6. Oh, and why not 11...a5 to keep a6 open for the N when White tries Nc3-a4-c5? Just wondering. |
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| Apr-25-13 | | haydn20: Here I am at move 22 and surely he'll continue with c5 and Oh good God, he's castled into it. |
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| Apr-26-13 | | Eyal: <already I'm not seeing why not 7...fxe6> White <wants> Black to play this move - after 8.Bd3 he has similar nagging development problems; that's why, as I've mentioned, nearly all the top players who go for this line with Black play 7...Qd6 to force exf7+ (and why MVL played 8.Bf4! to prevent it once Ding went for 7...Nf6). Chessbase db features 74 games with 7...fxe6 8.Bd3, in which White scores 74%, and 55 games with 7...Qd6 8.exf7+, in which White scores 56%. |
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Apr-26-13
 | | Phony Benoni: As bizaare as 10.Kd2 might seem, there are precedents. For example, from Spassky vs Seirawan, 1985:
click for larger view<8.Kf2!>
Such moves, crazy and illogical as they seem, are likely to become more common due to influence of, all things, the utterly rational and logical machine. They are showing humans that ideas which go against all the teachings of the past can be justified by unique tactial situation on the board. It's a future where the computer may come up with the actual novelty, but it will still be up to the human to apply the idea over the board as situations arise which could not be foreseen. I think back to the famous Pillsbury - Lasker story, as related by William Ewart Napier. After Lasker had prevailed in Pillsbury vs Lasker, 1896, Pillsbury analyzed the opening and found a novelty. As Napier says, he spent the next eight years playing the position against Pillsbury, analyzing everything conceivable idea against it. So came the day of Pillsbury vs Lasker, 1904, and Pillsbury sprung the novelty. He and Napier met at one point during the game, and Napier asked which variation Lasker had played. Replied Pillsbury with a smile, "The only damn scheme you never tried!" That sort of story is going to continue. As deeply as the opening may be analyzed, the opponent's imagination is likely to come up with some scheme not thoroughly studied beforehand, and the game will still have to be played. It's going to take more to exhaust chess than many believe. |
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| Apr-29-13 | | k009ris: Very good game that Knight on g6 was worth R+B! |
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| Jul-02-14 | | posoo: This is some CLEVER CHESS.
It is precisely da kind of manoevring that Mr. Posoo does NOT engage in on da blitzboard. Too many speculative wingdingings. Posoo prefers an active, SWOSHBUKKING style that vexes people into a bit of trub trub! |
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| Jul-16-14 | | pgs58: http://www.gibraltarchesscongress.c... has MVL talking through this game |
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| Dec-26-14 | | Biff The Understudy: I saw this game live in Paris, it was really a lot of fun. Liren must have been so frustrated... |
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| Apr-28-15 | | Imran Iskandar: The bishop and the h8 rook is worse than useless in the final stages of the game. |
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Feb-05-17
 | | Rafaelvleite: I must be getting old, this is completely different and modern chess, very nice to see this new generation! Chess is not dying, is evolving! |
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| May-24-17 | | Dave12: One of the best one-sided games ever played. |
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| May-24-17 | | JPi: yes a great concept -Bf8 without life- and a firework of a tactics among them the last one -the quiet Reb1! (RxB R16+ k7 Kc5 for R67#)- The kind of game that all chess fans around the world enjoy, |
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| Dec-27-17 | | clement41: Fantastic conception by MVL.
The root of black's evils stems from 7 e6!! aka the night attack, making the Bf8 useless and therefore the Rh8 as well.
Maxime can be good when it comes to putting the Rh8 on h7: Morozevich vs M Vachier-Lagrave, 2009 |
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