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Dec-07-21
 | | HeMateMe: An ugly, embarrassing game.nepo is to be congratulated for getting this far. He is up against a special player. |
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Dec-07-21
 | | harrylime: <<HeMateMe: An ugly, embarrassing game.nepo is to be congratulated for getting this far. He is up against a special player.>> Korchnoi 78 would kill Nepo ..
Leonid Stein 68 would kill Nepo
Actually Nepo would be devoured alive by a lot of past chess players.. Carlsen is good but he's being given a free ride here..lol |
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Dec-07-21
 | | scutigera: Carlsen stepped out of the CG.com database with 5. Bc5. Does anyone know if this position has come up elsewhere by transposition? Stockfish gives it a +0.12, and since it gives the initial array a +0.36, Carlsen's move looks like a solid addition to theory, in addition to being a line Carlsen would know much better than Nepo did. |
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Dec-07-21
| | HeMateMe: Nepo won the candidates against better players than korchnoi faced in 1977. But, his emotional makeup, durability, is suspect. Carlsen is the Terminator, like a young kasparov, karpov or Fischer 1972. |
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Dec-07-21
| | harrylime: Korchnoi would just eat Nepo alive lol lol |
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Dec-08-21
| | harrylime: It's clear the engines keep flaggin up Carlsens' mistakes... A Fischer would punish him. Fischer was a chess engine. |
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| Dec-08-21 | | cormier: on game 6 nepo didn t played:
-1.51 33... Bxa3 34. Rxb5 Qd7 35. Rc5 Bxb4 36. Rcc1 Ba5 37. Rc5 Bb6 38. Rcc1 Qb5 39. Rb1 Qa5 40. Ra1 Bc7. this line by komodo 13 depth=41 |
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| Dec-08-21 | | Albertan: Another painful loss for Nepo:
https://new.uschess.org/news/anothe...Hindsight is not enough:
https://www.fide.com/news/1468
World Championship Game 9:Disaster strikes fr Nepo: https://en.chessbase.com/post/world... |
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| Dec-08-21 | | The Kings Domain: Credit to Nepo for shaking things up by trying different openings but he just doesn't seem to have the chops to pull it off. His annoying habit in the game of staring at Carlsen in a mocking manner showed his character and clearly proves why Carlsen is the champ. I guess we can say this match is already wrapped up. |
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| Dec-08-21 | | technical draw: Forget about Nepo deciding to discontinue the match. Three reasons. One: No paycheck. The loser should receive 800,000 Euros. But if he retires he probably won't get any money. Second: He probably will never be considered for world championship matches again. This may be a little hard to enforce but sponsors get nervous if one of the players is a known quitter. Three: Nepo is a professional. He knows there are more tournaments and matches in his future and a lot of those tournaments are invitationals. Winners don't quit and quitters don't win. So to Nepo I say: Borron y cuenta nueva and good luck in your next tournament. |
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| Dec-08-21 | | mrbasso: << scutigera: Carlsen stepped out of the CG.com database with 5. Bc5. Does anyone know if this position has come up elsewhere by transposition? Stockfish gives it a +0.12, and since it gives the initial array a +0.36, Carlsen's move looks like a solid addition to theory, in addition to being a line Carlsen would know much better than Nepo did. >> 5...Bc5 was played several times and the
game
Moujan, Pablo (2253) - Rodriguez Perez, Rene (2208) went like this one with a small transposition until 11...0-0 when it continued with 12.Bxe7 instead of 12.d4. But these are all Patzers who bareley know how to move the pieces. They have no right to claim an opening novelty! Only 2600+ are entitled to do that... |
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| Dec-08-21 | | ajile: Bummer, the wheels are coming off for Nepo. |
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Dec-08-21
 | | keypusher: < 1 harrylime:
It's clear the engines keep flaggin up Carlsens' mistakes...A Fischer would punish him. Fischer was a chess engine.> Chess engines never blunder bishops.
Probably the worst blunder in Fischer-Spassky, not in terms of consequences but in terms of �I can�t believe he didn�t see that� was Spassky playing �Nd7 allowing Nd5 here: 
click for larger viewFischer vs Spassky, 1972 About as myopic as c4-c5 today. But of course it didn�t lose a whole piece. The errors in Games 1 and 13 in 1972 weren�t nearly as obvious. |
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| Dec-08-21 | | fabelhaft: Short excerpts from the game, where Carlsen according to some intended to move his knight but then changed his mind after 32 seconds: https://twitter.com/chesscom/status... |
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| Dec-08-21 | | Toribio3: No Match. Nepo is not a robust challenger! Let us wait for Alireza for the next candidates tournament. Alireza will be the next world champion. |
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| Dec-08-21 | | chessic eric: <MissScarlett: Can Leko step in for Nepo for the rest of the match?> This is EXACTLY what I said when I heard Leko must be part of the effort... |
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| Dec-08-21 | | VerySeriousExpert: The first mistake in the game was 3...d4. |
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| Dec-08-21 | | mrbasso: I remember when Aronian was the ELO favourite with a 2830 rating 2014. He finished on the 6 place of 8. So I don't wait for Alireza. |
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Dec-08-21
| | harrylime: <<keypusher: < 1 harrylime:
It's clear the engines keep flaggin up Carlsens' mistakes...
A Fischer would punish him. Fischer was a chess engine.>Chess engines never blunder bishops.
Probably the worst blunder in Fischer-Spassky, not in terms of consequences but in terms of �I can�t believe he didn�t see that� was Spassky playing �Nd7 allowing Nd5 here: click for larger view
Fischer vs Spassky, 1972
About as myopic as c4-c5 today. But of course it didn�t lose a whole piece. The errors in Games 1 and 13 in 1972 weren�t nearly as obvious.> > Bobby obviously made mistakes.
The book by Eli Agur on him devotes a whole chapter to his blunders lol lol Don't get too sucked in to some of my posts on here ! x |
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| Dec-08-21 | | Albertan: This game is annotated by GM Wesley So (elo 2772)at the following link: https://en.chessbase.com/post/world... Another painful loss for Nepo:
https://new.uschess.org/news/anothe... |
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Dec-08-21
| | harrylime: Nepo v Magnus
lol lol lol lol |
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| Dec-09-21 | | SChesshevsky: Think this a fascinating opening. Really not sure what to make of it. It's like almost a reversed Benoni or almost some sort of reversed Sicilian Dragon or ...c5 KID or almost a Catalan. Then white ends up with almost hanging pawns. In the Candidates, Nepo got a good Catalan v. Alekseenko with c4 and g3. But here, though I don't get the feeling Carlsen fully equalizes in the opening, think the idea ...d4 and ...Nc6 is really effective at hindering white as to coming up with clear plan with punch. Then ...a5...a4...a3. Wow. Has to be confusing at a minimum. Maybe a good example of the mastery Magnus has in knowing what a position really offers and doesn't offer him and his opponent. |
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Dec-09-21
 | | perfidious: <mrbasso....But these are all Patzers who bareley [sic] know how to move the pieces....> Yeah, 2200 players are nothing in this world of ours and scarcely deserve to exist. (rolls eyes) |
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| Dec-09-21 | | technical draw: <keypusher> <Chess engines never blunder bishops.> You know I don't really think it was a blunder. Of course Fischer saw that his bishop could be trapped but I think his mistake was thinking he would get 3 pawns for the Bishop or that with two kingside pawns gone he may have had a chance for a successful attack. I would consider it a blunder if Fischer did not realize his bishop would be trapped. (Like I am wont to do). |
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Dec-09-21
| | keypusher: < technical draw: <keypusher> <Chess engines never blunder bishops.>
You know I don't really think it was a blunder.> Yes, there are about 20 pages of people making that very same error on the game page in question. There's even a small, obstinate, heretical sect that demands the move be given an exclamation point. If you take yourself from a dead draw to a near-loss via a completely gratuitous bishop sacrifice, you've blundered. I don't think anyone would deny it if St. Bobby wasn't involved. |
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