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Magnus vs Emil Schallopp
Blindfold simul (1868) (blindfold), Hamburg GER, rd 4, Jun-01
Formation: Hippopotamus (A00)  ·  0-1

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May-17-05  paulchess: Isn't 22. .... Nxg3 a much better move ? Triple attack on B,N, R. If 23.Nxg3 then Rxe4+ and the King is now exposed and vulnerable. King cannot castle for protection. Queen cannot take back due to pin from Re8.
May-17-05
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  WannaBe: Yes, Yes, one must read the 'Greatest Charles Storey Ever Told!'

I highly recommend it!

May-17-05  abcpokerboy: paulchess, I believe after 22...Nxg3 23.Rxe4, Nxe4 gets white out of the storm.
May-17-05  Achilles87: In reply to paulchess, whites knight can take the rook once it moves to e4 given that it is at g3 after taking blacks knight.

So 22Nxg3 is not a much better move at all.

May-17-05  suenteus po 147: This puzzle was much easier than yesterday's now that I know the theme for the week is gaining material advantage, and not quickest sac to mate :)
May-17-05  dasp3edd3m0n: They should honestly take away the 'to win' part and replace it with 'to gain a piece' or something.
May-17-05  Madman99X: 22. h4 is a blunder. Perhaps 22. O-O is better?
May-17-05  halcyonteam: easy win
May-17-05  ThomYorke: <dasp3edd3m0n> In some cases, if you win a piece, you win the game.
May-17-05  point: What about 22. ... Rxe4 23. Qxe4 Nxg3 24. Nxg3 Re8 Pinning the queen?
May-17-05  Akavall: I saw 22...Bc6, but it only wins the exchange, 23. Bxf5 Bxh1, I think black still wins though. If white play 23. Bxc6? Qc6 and white must lose the knight to the nasty pin.

Judging by the opening was this a 1 min game? ;)

May-17-05  The beginner: I thought it was Nxg3. I thought i had a very strong line. 22 ..Nxg3
23 Nxg3 ..Bxf4
24 Bxf4 ..Qxf4

White is lost here, the bishop on e4 is weak(pinned against the king) it will fall soon. The knight on g3 is also weak, black can capture it with check, White's king is all out in the open his two roooks are not connected, and his queen will soon be very busy trying to defend against all of blacks pieces pointing towards the white king.

I tryed to play it out vs fritz, and i was winning, something i very rarely do even if i have material and position advantage, fritz always comes up with something againts me. This time i did win though :) But i had forgot to enable castle right in the setup position.

So if white can castle Nxg3 is ok, but not as strong as my initial thought

So after 23 .. Bxe4 white simply castle's 0-0-0 and is out of the troubles i had created for him. Black is still ahead though, Nxg3 is a ok move but certanly not as strong as 22. Rxe4

For example.

22.. Nxg3
23 Nxg3 ..Bxf4
24 0-0-0 ..Bxd2
25 Rxd2 ..Qxg3

Black won 2 pawns. (Was behind with 1 pawn before the combination start, and now leading with 1 pawn) Also blacks position is better than white here i belive.

May-17-05  YouRang: I got it. Not too hard. Looking for 'forcing' moves, 22... Rxe4 jumps into view (forcing Qxe4). Once you get that far, the skewer is obvious.

I feel better now, having missed Monday's puzzle.

May-17-05
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  kevin86: I went for a more flashy,but dubious:22...♖xe4 23 ♕xe4 ♘xg3 24 ♘xg3 ♖e8 25 ♕xe8+ ♗x♕} and white would have two rooks and knight for queen and pawn

An addendum: If 29 ♕xg3 ♕e4 30 ♕c3 ♕b1# even giving up the queen doesnt stop the checkmate.

May-17-05  xxdsdxx: I had seen this before and stopped looking further than winning the bishop with a skewer on the rook - queen. Black definitely retains the upper hand throughout the continuation.
May-17-05  misguidedaggression: I got this fairly quick. first I looked at it and said: OK, I have no idea what to do. The king is in the center, but I can't see how to get to it. There is a passed pawn on d4 with a possible pawn fork on d3, but I can't seem to make that work either. Screw it, I'll just analize piece sacs until something happens. 22...Nxg3 doesn't seem to work either. Maybe I can make it work later. 22...Rxe4 treatens Nxg3 and I can play Re8 after Qxe4. I saw the same line as Kevin86 here, but I think blacks rooks are more valuable than white's queen. It also looks like I can win the material back after 23...Bc6 and then.... Wait a second.... that rook is undefended.... And the queen can't defend it AND move out of take... also it looks like the bishop can't be trapped on the diagonal after it takes, for example 25.O-O-O Bc6 and it's safe. (I had completely missed 25...Qc6! threatening 26...Be4 But I think 25...Bc6 is still winning, though.) This leaves black up a bishop. This must be the winning line.
May-17-05
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  TheAlchemist: <soberknight> You're sure learning fast about marketing :)
May-17-05  hintza: He's using textbook <LIFE Master AJ> technique.
May-17-05  eainca: For all of you who "saw" the solution, try doing it without looking. This was a blindfold simul.
May-17-05  riqhi: oops, it wasn't that easy.
I found this variation, but fritz says is a draw position:

22... Rxe4
23.Qxe4, Kxg3
24.Kxg3, Re8

May-17-05  CrimsonQueen: Hm... I thought it was:

22. ... Nxg3
23. Nxg3 Rxe4
24. Qxe4 Re8

...oh well.

May-17-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  Richard Taylor: <misguideed.> great anlaysis - I just looked at Nxg3...missed the fairly basic combo...interesting game - who was this (these) blokes? good for a blindfold game...it was like a Hypermodern game before Reti..
May-17-05  WorldChampeen: It's nice to see something really from the archives on this one.
May-26-05  patzer2: The puzzle solution 22...Rxe4! initiates a typical skewer tactic. Looks like White got "blindsighted" in this simultaneous exhibition.

My assumption is that Black was playing blindfolded, giving his opponents the advantage of the first move. I wonder if any modern masters are giving those kinds of advantages today in simultaneous exhibition play.

Nov-11-10  Yigor: The double fianchetto against the stormline after 8 moves.
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