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Ian Nepomniachtchi vs Ding Liren
Nepomniachtchi - Ding World Championship Match (2023), Astana KAZ, rd 1, Apr-09
Spanish Game: Closed Variations. Delayed Exchange (C85)  ·  1/2-1/2

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Apr-09-23
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  HeMateMe: I thought the Ginger Ninja was Cream drummer Ginger Baker?
Apr-09-23
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  Sally Simpson: If he makes a bad blunder we can call him Ding Lemon for a day. But he rarely makes bad blunders, a wonderfully tight player, so I expect that day will be a long way off.
Apr-09-23
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  perfidious: <Geoff....But (Ding) rarely makes bad blunders, a wonderfully tight player, so I expect that day will be a long way off.>

These top players are uncooperative that way, unlike yourself or myself.

Apr-09-23
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  Sally Simpson: (move 43...Black to play) I'm back on Ch.24. It seems like us they too are pretty bored with what's on offer now. Giri has slipped into anecdote mode, not too bad. So I'll let him stay for a little bit longer but I have Simon's phone number, I'm willing to pay his air fare to get him there for game 2.
Apr-09-23  Messiah: DRAW!

Victory!

-- CG Liberation Front --

Apr-09-23
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  Sally Simpson: Thank you C.G. much appreciated.
Apr-09-23  whiteshark: Rd 1 summary: <Ding Survives Game 1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHv... (~ 58 sec)
Apr-09-23  Ulhumbrus: If 39 e5 allows Black to organise a white square blockade one alternative is to play for f5 instead by 39 Be7
Apr-09-23  DansChessLounge: For the round 1 recap and analysis, check out the video --> https://youtu.be/Nsrp6En6c1c
Apr-09-23  dehanne: Ding looked like he didn't want to be there.
Apr-09-23
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  MissScarlett: Don't be silly - he always looks like that.
Apr-09-23  VerySeriousExpert: 29.Bd6 Qd7 30.Ng3. What is it????? It's not only a weak move, it's a continuation of Ian's PSYCHOLOGICAL difficulty to capture opponent's material in World Championship Matches (Game 6 of the previous WCC Match - for confirmation of this my thought: Carlsen vs Nepomniachtchi, 2021 ).
Apr-09-23  DansChessLounge: Updated Round 1 video analysis ---> https://youtu.be/ctVKBMSC9UY
Apr-09-23
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  Bishoprick: I've always felt that for Black to achiever a draw in any match puts him/her ahead for the next game as White.
Apr-09-23
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  Teyss: Nepo in matches really seems to have issues winning a won game. He puts pressure, gains space and then misses an opportunity to snatch a Pawn with a good position as in move 29 and following. Wouldn't have been won yet but would have put Ding in great trouble at the start of the most important match of his career. A missed opportunity as now Ding can build up confidence and experience.

Something similar happened in WC 2021 before Nepo collapsed. Surprising since he is better at tournaments. Is he nervous because of the stakes? Impressed to play the same person for 3 weeks? Too nice? It's probably relating more to psychology than technique.

Apr-09-23  BxChess: On reflection, 8...ed was the key move that determined the later course of the game.

Opening is ed design --I. Nepo

Apr-09-23
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  fredthebear: 8...exd is sound.

7...Nd7 is a choice of directions.

Apr-10-23  optimal play: <Nepo Looks At Ding While Playing The Best Move Qf4>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fmx...

Anish: "I know my man"

So after 27.Qf4 Nepo is winning, but he let it slip away.

Good defence by Ding.

Apr-10-23
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  beatgiant: Did White ever have a definite win here? Clearly he needed to avoid the queen trade. I looked at 29. Bc7 Ne6 30. Bxa5 Nd4 winning a pawn but allowing a knight trade, and did not find anything conclusive.
Apr-10-23  saturn2: At move 29. I was taking a glimpse at this CG site and expected Bc7. When Nepo did not play it I thought there has to be a reason why Nepo is sitting there and not me with no understanding of the higher principles of chess.
Apr-10-23  SChesshevsky: <beatgiant: Did White ever have a definite win here?>

That's exactly the right question. Taking a queen side pawn is nice but clearly not a win by force. And the 29. Bc7 line does have drawbacks.

I kind of like the line played. Any time you can push the opponent around to the back rank, it usually can't be bad.

Can be sure that Nepom asked your very same question and looked quite deep for the answer.

Apr-10-23
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  Teyss: We all agree Nepo could have gained a Pawn. At his level he likely saw it and opted for something else, but he didn't demonstrate anything conclusive afterwards.

FWIW I let SF run for an hour and it gives +0.8 at 50 ply for 29.Bc7 Ne6 30.Bxa5 Nd4 31.Nxd4 cxd4. Not enough for a win but considering it's the first game at least a psychological edge that could have influenced the rest of the match: pressuring Ding right away and forcing him to defend a long endgame. For info 30.Bxc5 in the game line also winning a P is +0.5 at 51 ply.

The line chosen by Nepo rates slightly lower, hence since he didn't succeed afterwards he probably missed an opportunity to play an easier endgame.

Apr-10-23
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  Sally Simpson: I mentioned this during the game. I went to CH 24 to get the time situation. Giri was wetting his pants at the thought of winning a pawn because it secures a draw

With Ding in semi time trouble and Nepo sensing something odd (see Ding's after game interview - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cA... he said his mind was not on chess ) Ding's body language etc would have hinted at this.

Nepo quite rightly threw some tricks on the board and Ding did well to avoid them. 31...h5 to answer 32. f5 with 32..h4. shows Ding was back in tune.

Apr-13-23  sunofnothing: I hereby declare this line of the English to be known as the "Dinglish"
Apr-13-23  goodevans: <sunofnothing: I hereby declare this line of the English to be known as the "Dinglish">

That's very funny but out of place here (it's a Ruy Lopez). Did you mean to post it on Ding Liren vs Nepomniachtchi, 2023 ?

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