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| May-18-05 | | olaf4lena: <e4Newman> Thanks for the reply. My hope is to start here with white add QID for Black (due in part to similar positions) and when I am ready to add more to my opening repetiore, look at English as well. I just wanted to make sure that I was not doing something stupid while simply trying to sharpen my skills and tactics. |
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| May-19-05 | | e4Newman: I think you got some good advice from someone. |
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| Jun-26-05 | | vampiero: Hey guys, havn't played the N-L attack yet but im planning to try it out next game, getting into the attacking style! I read all the posts on this page and i dont really like the Nf3 line, since black could follow with d4 b3 f6 Bb2 e4 and black has a strong pawn mass that cant be tempted to easily without closing in the b2 bishop with whites own pawns. What about this line that i devised in my head, 1. b3 e5 2. Bb2 Nc6 3. e3 (to open up the diagonals and to support the upcoming pawn attack) d5 d4.. ...if 3. ...exd4 Bxd4 and if Nxd4 Qxd4(you lose a strong bishop but get a queen in the center of the board without any loss in tempo) ...if 3. ...e5?! then c4 is the good move to break the pawns. ...if 3. ...f6??, then black immediately loses the pawn. any ideas. i really dont know any lines of the N-L attack so help me out. |
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| Jul-05-05 | | DanielBryant: This opening really is my bete noire. When I was just learning how to play, my best friend always used it against me, and I developed bad habits trying for quick crushes aginst him rather than playing positionally sound chess. |
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| Jul-31-05 | | TheMouse: <vampiero> Please dobnt mindlessly develop...
Your line:
1. Nf3 d5
2. b3 f6
3. d4
So here, the idea is to bring ur light bishop to d3, later play c4 Also...
1. Nf3 d5
2. b3 c5
3. the correct move is e3 and if f6, d4 |
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| Aug-03-05 | | MUG: The reason for your dislike of the 1.Nf3 line (1.Nf3 d5 2.b3 f6 3.Bb2?! e5) is interesting. The thing I love about the N-L attack is its flexibility to adapt to any plan by Black! After 1.Nf3 d5 2. b3 f6!? White should change tact slightly and play 3. d4! Black attempting to blunt the a1-h8 diagonal with …f6 is quite an important theme in the N-L attack, and White should be careful about his move order here and not develop automatically in these lines. e.g. 1. Nf3 d5 2. b3 c5 3. Bb2?! is wrong here due to 3…f6!, which Nf3 is not best placed to combat. Petrosian vs Fischer, 1971
Therefore the correct move order (as <TheMouse> has pointed out) is: 1.Nf3 d5 2. b3 c5 3. e3!, rendering 3…f6 less effective now after 4. d4 Nc6 5. Bb2 etc. DeFirmian vs M Tosic, 1981
Interestingly, the …f6 idea can also be tried in the N-L attack proper: 1. b3 d5 2. Bb2 f6!? Again, White should now prefer 3. d4! Here. This blocks in the bishop for now, but sooner or later Black is going to want to advance a pawn to either c5 or d5, and then the bishop can be freed. Concerning your devised line:
1.b3 e5 2. Bb2 Nc6 3.e3 d5 4. d4 (4. Bb5 is the normal move), here is my opinion: after 4…exd4 5. Bxd4 (5. exd4 blocks the bishop and give Black an easy game) 5…Nxd4 6. Qxd4. I actually prefer Blacks position here. <you lose a strong bishop but a queen in the centre of the board> Not sure I agree with this. I would want to give up my strong bishop for something more tangible. Plus, without support, a queen in the centre of the board is not always strong and might be pestered by Blacks minor pieces. <without loss of tempo> but you spent two important tempi getting the bishop to b2 only to exchange it a couple of moves later. Still, perhaps you should give your new idea a try in practice and see how it holds up. Let me know how you get on. |
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| Sep-16-05 | | Makofan: I have a game coming up against an opponent who always opens with either 1.b3 or 1.Nf3 followed by 2.b3. I have never played against this opening before, so I have a question on defending. I was thinking that after 1.Nf3 I would play ... Nf6 and do a King's Indian or Symmetrical English (depending on how he continues). After a straight 1. b3 I was thinking of playing 1... e5 followed by developing Queen side pieces and a ...d6, posting King on d7 and storming his kingside. Do these themes seem workable? I prefer to get some clear ideas and then work out the moves, rather than vice versa |
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| Sep-16-05 | | RookFile: Well, sure, they're all good moves,
but, you have to expect that your
opponnent is ready for 1. b3 e5
as well. If he opens with 1. Nf3,
he is saying he's not going to allow
...e5. My reply typically is to meet
1. Nf3 with ....g6 immediately.
After you play ....Bg7, he has to play
d4 if he wants to stop .... e5 from
you, but then you have a normal position. |
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| Sep-16-05 | | Paul123: PLAY
4...Bd6!? Against the Larsen!
As a Larsen player 4...Bd6 makes a mess of my/white's strategy. However there are ways of working around it. But it still is a pain in my rear! Black equalizes almost immediately…but we Larsen aficionado’s are a courageous lot… WE never play the Larsen to get an opening advantage anyway… 1.b3 e5 2.Bb2 Nc6 3.e3 Nf6 4.Bb5 Bd6!? 5.Ne2 (5.Na3 Na5 Blocks the knight from c4 thus denies the attack to the bishop on d6) 6.Be2 a6 7.Nc4 Nxc4 8.bxc4 Qe7 9.a4 0-0 10.Nh3 Bc5 11.f4 d6] 5...a6 6.Bxc6 dxc6 7.h3 b5 8.d3 Qe7 9.Nd2 0-0 10.0-0 etc... (IMO ) I wouldn't play a Kings Indian set up against the Larsen...It scores well against it. Probably accounting for the Larsen’s popularity at club level/my level. I hammer people who are close to me in skill, who push g6 without thinking…. And it scores well in my database against KID set-ups. |
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| Nov-17-05 | | Waffles: IMO, the best line against 4.bd6 is 5.F4! Trying to exploit the a1-h8 diagonal. Play gets sharp, and continues either 5...Qe7 or, 5...Qh4+ 6.g3 qe7 Hope this helps! |
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| Nov-22-05 | | Edwin Meyer: I tied a GM strength playing computer playing the Larsen :)
I had winning chances even, but not enough time left to exploit them. Check out the link to it in my profile. The Nimzo-Larsen is my favourite weapon of choice. Though i am still only discovering it. |
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| Dec-19-05 | | Waffles: You were totally won in that position, why did you give it up with perpetual check?! |
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| Dec-19-05 | | Edwin Meyer: As my comment says; Not enough time left. I had about a minute left at the moment of that perpetual check. And as an amateur player i was more then happy to achieve a mere draw against a computer playing at full strength. |
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| Jun-19-06 | | Tariqov: <Waffles> after <paul's> 4...Bd6 your suggested 5.f4?? is a blunder,gives a free pawn exf4 with no compensation. Read his annotations carefully,this is not the e5 line where after f4 exf4 ,g7 is en prise.The knight is on f6,Black did not play d5. |
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| Aug-24-06 | | melianis: Has someone ever tried something like
1.b3 e5 2.d4!? exd4 3.Qxd4 Nc6 4.Qb2 d5 5. c4 dxc4 6. bxc4 ...
sort of a reversed scandinavian/centercounter with b3? Though, probably black would play something else... |
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| Aug-25-06 | | melianis: so it'd be: 
click for larger view
just trying out FEN. |
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| Sep-20-06 | | Tariqov: I don't think it is good, i rather be Black. |
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| Sep-20-06 | | RookFile: You know what's not bad is: 1. b3 d5
2. Nf3 c5 3. e4 dxe4 4. Ne5, which is the Budapest reversed. This baits black into playing the the incorrect 4...Qd4? which gets answered by 5. Bb2!, and if the queen takes the bishop, it will be trapped. |
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| Dec-21-06 | | e4Newman: good opening
i usually start with nf3 to avoid ...e5 |
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| Jan-12-07 | | larsenfan: I know that there are a couple of books about this openning.
Does anyone know them? Any advice about buying them?
Thanks a lot. |
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| Jan-12-07 | | FLCLlove: "Nimzo-Larsen Attack" by Byron Jacobs & Jonathan Tait. This one is rather good, mostly game examples. There's also "Larsen's Opening" by a Mr. Wall whose first name escapes me. No idea about this one. Those are the only ones specifically about the Nimzo-Larsen that I know of... |
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| Jan-12-07 | | ganstaman: Bill Wall? |
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| Jan-12-07 | | larsenfan: Thanks a lot FCLClove, I know for sure that also Keene has a book about 1b3. |
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| Jan-12-07 | | ganstaman: Hmmm, I just had a thought. Wouldn't he sound cooler if he went by the name 'Will Wall?' |
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| Jan-12-07 | | FLCLlove: Yes...Bill Wall sounds correct. I was thinking Tim though... Yes he did, apparently. Actually had to search for this one. "Nimzowitsch/Larsen Attack" by Raymond Keene. |
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