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| Jun-01-06 | | AdrianP: One of the attractions of 6. ...Ng4 is that White players don't like it! If you play 6. Be3 as White against the Najdorf your looking for an all-out fight for the initiative, but after ...Ng4, White has to spend a few moves responding to Black's lashing out and regrouping. White's successes will usually come about by positional means. |
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| Jun-04-06 | | Kings Indian: I've given up the Pirc for the Najdorf. Too little space in the Pirc. What are some good Najdorf players, so i can get an idea of how to play this opening. |
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| Jun-04-06 | | KingG: <Kings Indian> Some good Najdorf players: Fischer, Portisch, Kasparov, Gelfand, Topalov, Anand, ... There are many, but these are some of the biggest names. |
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| Jun-09-06 | | MagnaPsygnosis: The NAjdorf is very powerfull....but needs alot of theory knowledge to operate with |
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| Jun-14-06 | | AdrianP: <Perenyi attack>
<Which is better 11. Qf3!? or 11. gxf6!?> 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 d6 6.Be3 a6 7.g4 e5 8.Nf5 g6 9.g5 gxf5 10.exf5 d5 <11.gxf6> (>= 11. Qf3!?) On looking at this further, it seems that it is considered that 11. Qf3!? offers more opportunities for White to seek an advantage. State of the art in 11. gxf6!? seems to be Shabalov vs I Novikov, 2005 which in fact followed Carlsen-Sammalvuo up to Black's move 33!! At the risk of huge oversimpliflication it seems difficult for White to deviate without being worse, while a lot of Black's moves are simply forced. This is the position after move 33 in those games
click for larger viewA hard position to evaluate, but surely difficult for White to win (although in the Shabalov game, White actually did so). (above is a response to a query <Hesam7> posted on my forum, which I thought would be useful posted on this page) |
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| Jul-18-06 | | AdrianP: <A historic moment> 6. Be3 has just taken over from 6. Bg5 as White's most popular 6th move in the database Opening Explorer |
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Jul-18-06
 | | plang: It is amazing how many 6th moves have been played by white. The current popularity of 6 Be3 is easy to understand; it is more flexible and less "bookish" than 6 Bg5. Plus many don't like playing against the poisened pawn. |
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Jul-25-06
 | | WannaBe: Be3 is known as the English Attack. 
click for larger view Now, a really 'dumb' question, what square/piece is it attacking? What is the long term plan for the dark squared bishop? |
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| Jul-25-06 | | KingG: <WannaBe> It depends on how the game goes of course, but in general, it's a well placed piece that can influence both sides of the board and it protects the weak dark squares created by the pawn structure. To give a specific example, it's often sacrificed on h6 if White tries to close up the K-side during White's pawn storm(answering g6 with ...h6). This sacrifice is almost always winning(if Black takes the Bishop), and can usually be played without much thought. That's if White decides to play on the K-side, if White plays on the Q-side, then it can be used to attack b6, perhaps to support a knight on b6, or by playing ...Bb6 followed by ...Nc7. |
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Jul-25-06
| | WannaBe: <KingG> thanks!
Sac'in it on h6... tempting idea. I do like these 'crazy' sacs. My sacs would make Tal cringe! =) |
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| Jul-25-06 | | babakova: If 6.Be3 black should just snap out 6...Ng4 which is an interesting variation with many ways to go a few moves down the line. |
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| Jul-25-06 | | KingG: <If 6.Be3 black should just snap out 6...Ng4 which is an interesting variation with many ways to go a few moves down the line.> Yes, but what do you play if White plays 6.f3 ? |
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| Jul-25-06 | | babakova: Thats a different line completely... I would play 6...e6 and allow white the setup f3-Be3 if he now wants it so badly. |
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| Jul-31-06 | | gambitfan: I had two games playing the "Poisoned Pawn" : 1 e4c5 2 Nf3 d6 3 d4 ed 4 Nxd4 Nf6 5 Nc3 a6 6 Bg5 e6 7 f4 Qb6 8 Qd2 Qxd2 9 Rb1 Qa3 10 Bxf6 gf ... There my opponents played both : 11 g3 !?
The Opening Explorer does not give this variant...
Is it a new move ? Fashionable ??? |
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| Sep-23-06 | | Vilya: <gambitfan> I don't know the "Poisoned Pawn" well, nor do I know 11. g3. Though, from my beginner's point of view, 11 g3 is a bit passive : followed by the classical 11. ...Nc6
12. Nxc6 bxc6, my computer does not hesitate to give a small, but clear advantage to the Black (  0.45).
Moreover, I can't see the goal of this move, except to make White's pawn structure more solid? Anyway, I think there is no use in playing it and I fear the opponent white bishop after the castling... |
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| Oct-06-06 | | DaveyL: Is it possible to avoid the "Anti-English" 6. Be3 Ng4 by playing 6. f3 first? Then you can play 7. Be3 and black can't play his knight into g4? |
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| Oct-16-06 | | AdrianP: <Daveyl> <it possible to avoid the "Anti-English" 6. Be3 Ng4 by playing 6. f3 first?> Very much so, and it's often played. Normally it will transpose to the main line, but Black can try 6. ...Qb6!? which has independent significance. |
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| Nov-27-06 | | Stellar King: Did this variation exist before Najdorf was born? |
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| Nov-27-06 | | AdrianP: <Stellar King>
Earliest 'Najdorf' in Megabase (although note the weird move order) is Yates,F - Tartakower,S [B90]
Budapest Budapest (3), 28.06.1926
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 a6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 d6 6.Bd3 Nc6 7.Nde2 g6 8.0-0 Bg7 9.Qe1 0-0 10.f4 Nb4 11.Kh1 Kh8 12.Be3 Ng4 13.Bg1 f5 14.Rd1 Nxd3 15.cxd3 e5 16.h3 Nf6 17.fxe5 dxe5 18.d4 Nxe4 19.dxe5 Qe8 20.Nxe4 fxe4 21.Rxf8+ Qxf8 22.Nc3 Bf5 23.Bd4 Re8 24.Nxe4 Bxe5 25.Bxe5+ Rxe5 26.Qc3 Qe7 27.Rd5 Bxe4 28.Rxe5 1-0 ... i.e. before Najdorf was born in 1929.
Earliest 'Najdorf' played by Najdorf
Euwe,M - Najdorf,M [B84]
Buenos Aires/La Plata Buenos Aires (4), 1947
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Be2 e6 7.0-0 Be7 8.f4 Qc7 9.Kh1 Nc6 10.a4 Bd7 11.Nb3 Na5 12.Nxa5 Qxa5 13.Bf3 Bc6 14.Qe1 Qc7 15.e5 dxe5 16.fxe5 Nd7 17.Bxc6 bxc6 18.Bf4 0-0 19.Qg3 Kh8 20.Ne4 Nb6 21.Nf6 Nd5 22.Qh4 gxf6 23.exf6 Bd6 24.Qg3 Rg8 25.Bxd6 Qb6 26.Qa3 Qd4 27.Qc5 Qe4 28.Rf3 e5 29.Qf2 Rae8 30.Re1 Qxa4 31.Bxe5 Rg5 32.Rf5 Rg6 33.b3 Qb4 34.Rf1 Qg4 35.h3 Qe4 36.Re1 Qb4 37.c4 Reg8 38.Rg1 Nb6 39.Rh5 Nd7 40.Qf3 Nxe5 41.Rxe5 Rg3 42.Qe4 h6 43.Re8 Qxb3 44.Rxg8+ Rxg8 45.Qxc6 a5 46.Qd5 Rf8 47.Re1 Qc3 48.Rf1 a4 49.Rf3 Qc1+ 50.Kh2 a3 51.Qa5 Qxc4 52.Qxa3 Rg8 53.Qd6 Kh7 54.Rg3 Rg6 55.Qe5 Qh4 56.Rf3 Qg5 57.Qxg5 Rxg5 58.h4 Rg4 59.Kh3 h5 ½-½ Earliest B90 - 6 Be3
Wantz,F - Badilles,G [B90]
Moscow ol (Men) fin-C Moscow (9), 1956
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Be3 e5 7.Nb3 b5 8.Qd3 Nbd7 9.Be2 Qc7 10.g4 h6 11.h4 Be7 12.0-0-0 b4 13.Nd5 Nxd5 14.exd5 a5 15.g5 a4 16.Nd2 Ba6 17.Nc4 Rc8 18.b3 Nc5 19.Bxc5 Qxc5 20.Rhg1 hxg5 21.hxg5 g6 22.Qe3 Qxe3+ 23.fxe3 Bxc4 24.bxc4 Rh2 25.Bd3 Rh5 26.Be2 Rxg5 27.Rxg5 Bxg5 28.Kd2 Ke7 29.Rb1 Rb8 30.Kd3 f5 31.e4 Rh8 32.Bf1 Rh1 33.exf5 gxf5 34.c5 dxc5 35.Kc4 Kd6 36.Rd1 Rh2 37.Bd3 e4 38.Rg1 exd3 39.Rxg5 Rxc2+ 40.Kxd3 Rc3+ 41.Kd2 Kxd5 42.Rxf5+ Kc4 43.Rf4+ Kb5 44.Rf8 Ra3 45.Rb8+ Kc4 46.Rg8 Rxa2+ 47.Kc1 b3 48.Rg4+ Kc3 49.Rg3+ Kb4 50.Rg4+ c4 51.Rg7 a3 52.Rb7+ Kc3 0-1 |
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| Nov-27-06 | | Stellar King: oh...I see so Najdorf just revolutionized even though it already existed |
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Nov-27-06
| | WannaBe: Yep, other notable openings that's been 'revitalized' are: Nimzo-Larsen Attack, Fischer-Sozin (Sicilian), Canal-Sokolsky (Rossolimo) Attack, etc... |
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Mar-19-07
| | WannaBe: Makes you wonder, why black doesn't play Bxb3 and double white's pawns...
click for larger viewDoes anyone know why it's bad for black? |
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| Mar-19-07 | | ganstaman: <WannaBe> This is mostly a guess as I haven't played over nearly enough games with this opening to see what pieces are most useful where and which squares are most vital. Firstly, it doesn't look to me that the b3 knight has anywhere it can go (besides a1, which hardly even qualifies as a square). Therefore, the immediate capture of the knight doesn't seem as that necessary. It will still be available in a few moves, so black should work on more important things first. Secondly, that light square bishop black has looks useful. His pawns on d6 and e5 have left him with weakened light squares in the center. I wouldn't want to give up that bishop without some real tangible compensation. And putting the two together, it's possible that black can sometimes take on b3 later when it creates all types of tactical problems for white (just eyeballing this, maybe something like Rc8, b4, then Bxb3 and Qa5 -- of course, getting 4 moves in a row almost always wins, but you get the idea). So black waits as I said he could and only trades when it creates nice threats as I said it should. It's nice that I can agree with myself. |
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| Mar-19-07 | | micartouse: <WannaBe> I agree with <ganstaman>. I don't think it causes an immediate problem, but Black would be giving up one of his best minor pieces for one of White's worst (and also giving up a bishop for a knight in a somewhat open position is risky). So once both sides get their attack rolling, White would have a massive advantage. I think sometimes we have to order the minor pieces in our head in terms of value when we contemplate exchanges. We'd say Black likes Be6 and Nf6 but could do without Nd7 and Be7 is bad. White likes Nc3 and Be3 quite a bit, but wouldn't lose sleep exchanging the Nb3 and the ugly Bf1. The pawn structure just isn't as important here since the board is about to go up in flames. Only the possibilities of attacking and defending the kingsides should be really evaluated. |
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| Mar-19-07 | | e4Newman: i've seen opponents use black's dsb to help with a counter attack on the k-side, especially ...f5 my gut feeling is that exchanging for the white knight on b3 leaves you worse off, the resulting pawn on b3 is still protected, and there are no new weaknesses except for the open a-file (a very-long-term plan at best). |
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