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Sep-30-05
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| Sep-30-05 | | AgentRgent: <WannaBe: Can Rafael Vaganian eat meat?> You're thinking of Rafael Veganian. ;-) |
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| Jan-09-06 | | Hesam7: My repertoire is almost a copy of Vaganian's: French and QGD as Black. Also as white he plays the Petrosian line against QID which is also a favorite line of mine. <AgentRgent> Thanks for the article. Any books by or about him? |
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| Apr-08-06 | | PhilFeeley: Check out the odd position after White's 31st move!
[Event "Bundesliga 2005-6"]
[Site "Baden Baden GER"]
[Date "2006.04.01"]
[Round "14"]
[White "Wintzer,J"]
[Black "Vaganian,R"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "2324"]
[BlackElo "2597"]
[EventDate "2006.01.27"]
[ECO "D31"]
1. c4 e6 2. Nc3 d5 3. d4 Be7 4. cxd5 exd5 5. Bf4 c6 6. e3 Bf5 7. g4 Be6 8.
h3 Nd7 9. Bd3 h5 10. gxh5 Ndf6 11. Qf3 Nxh5 12. Nge2 Bd6 13. Bxd6 Qxd6 14.
O-O-O O-O-O 15. Ng3 Ngf6 16. Nf5 Bxf5 17. Bxf5+ Kb8 18. Kb1 Rde8 19. Rhg1
g6 20. Bd3 Ng7 21. Ne2 Re7 22. Nf4 Nfh5 23. Ne2 Qf6 24. Qg2 Nf5 25. Bxf5
Qxf5+ 26. Ka1 Ka8 27. a3 Re4 28. Rh1 Rh4 29. Rh2 Ng7 30. Rdh1 a6 31. Ng1
Ne8 32. Ne2 Nd6 33. Ng3 Qe6 34. Qf1 Nc4 35. Qg2 Ka7 36. Ne2 Qf5 37. Ng3 Qc2
38. Rb1 Qb3 39. Qf1 Nxa3 40. Rc1 Nc2+ 0-1 |
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| Jun-19-06 | | DUS: "... It was a good reminder that Vaganian was considered one of the toughest players in the world for several decades and he admirably carried the mantle of Armenian chess after Petrosian..." http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail... |
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| Oct-15-06 | | BIDMONFA: Rafael Vaganian VAGANIAN, Rafael A.
http://www.bidmonfa.com/vaganian_ra...
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| Jan-23-07 | | mckmac: <AgentRgent>Many thanks for the link.Excellent article indeed! "If Petrosian was The King of Armenia,Vaganian became its Crown Prince" "Botvinnik once remarked that Vaganian played as though chess did not exist before he came along",and even better than that..."He has something that makes the pieces move around the board in a way only he can conceive of...He was never a chess practitioner,he was a chess artist,a fantastic chess artist!"-Victor Kortchnoi.And it looks like he has picked up a mighty second wind.What a chessplayer! |
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| Apr-06-07 | | Davolni: WOW.... Cheers to our GM Vaganian.....
he used to be #3 in the world... I did not know that.... WOW.... what an achievement....
and he is still playing 56 years old in European tournament...
GOOD LUCK TO HIM...... |
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Apr-07-07
 | | plang: I was sceptical of this but did confirm that he was in the top 10 for a few years and was tied for 3rd (with Timman and Yusupov) on the 1/1/86 rating list. |
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| Apr-24-07 | | Plato: As a dedicated French player myself, R. Vaganian has been one of my chess heroes for many years. Looking back at his games from the 70s and 80s, I think he is easily one of the most underestimated and creative GMs of the 20th century. And he's still playing great positional chess in 2007! For example, he had an elegant Nimzowitschian-style win with Black over Rustemov in the Bundesliga... for some reason the game hasn't been included in the CG database, so I will post it here: [Event "Bundesliga 2006-7"]
[Site "Remagen GER"]
[Date "2007.03.31"]
[Round "14"]
[White "Rustemov, A."]
[Black "Vaganian, R."]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "D31"]
[WhiteElo "2557"]
[BlackElo "2590"]
[EventDate "2007.01.28"]
[EventType "team"]
[EventRounds "15"]
[EventCountry "GER"]
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Be7 4. cxd5 exd5 5. Bf4 c6 6. Qc2 Bd6 7. Bxd6 Qxd6 8.
e3 Qg6 9. Qd2 Nd7 10. Nge2 Nb6 11. Nf4 Qd6 12. O-O-O Ne7 13. f3 Ng6 14. Nxg6
hxg6 15. e4 Be6 16. e5 Qe7 17. f4 O-O-O 18. b3 Kb8 19. Kb2 Bf5 20. Qe3 Be4 21.
a3 f5 22. h3 Nd7 23. Rg1 Nf8 24. g3 Ne6 25. b4
click for larger view25...g5 26. Ne2 Rh6 27. Rd2 Rg8 28.
Nc3 Rg6 29. Nxe4 dxe4 30. Bc4 gxf4 31. gxf4 Rxg1 32. Qxg1 Rd8 33. Bxe6 Qxe6 34.
Qxg7 e3 35. Rd3 Qc4 36. Rc3 Qxd4 37. Qg3 Qd1 38. Rc2 e2 39. Rc1 Rd2+ 40. Kb1
e1=Q 0-1
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| Apr-24-07 | | Davolni: <plato> I was just watching Vaganian vs Adams game 2004. Very nice one.:) |
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| Jun-28-07 | | ARMENIA: It is great to see Mr. Rafael Vaganian get back in the 2600 which is absurd: a player of his strength should be at least in 2750s but his inactivity and coaching has occupied most of his time. It is honorable to see a legendary player give back to his people his talent through the teaching of the youngers in Petrosian School of Chess. Alongside with Sargissian and Akopian, Vaganian and Lputian have taken years off of their playing careers to establish a strong backbone to Armenian chess with results of such as Aronian, Akobian and youngster Zaven who has already shown great potential! Vaganian has proven beyond doubt that he is and will always be among the world's elite and it is good to see him in action! God Bless Armenia |
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| Oct-04-07 | | arsen387: Vaganian is one the last chess artists remained in chess if not the last. I hope his talent will inherit his young students who will carry the flag of Armenian chess with honour like it did Petrosian, Akopian, Lputian, and of course himself. |
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| Oct-08-07 | | DUS: GM Vaganian won again today at European Club Cup, 2007. He has RP 2904 (which is + 16) so far and is on the first place among the players on the board #3. I think it is really impresive at his age. I hope very much he will keep playing on this level and will return again to National team of Armenia. |
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| Oct-09-07 | | Davolni: It's nice to see veteran GM Vaganian on the TOP of the list. http://chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp...
It's also worth mentioning that according to chessmetrics he used to be World #3 15 different months. http://db.chessmetrics.com/CM2/Play... |
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| Oct-09-07 | | hovik2003: According to ChessBase GM Rafael Vahanian acquired performance rating of 2904 on board 3, before round 6 of EuroClubCup 2007.
Nice comeback and Long Live Rafael Vahanian. |
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| Oct-09-07 | | Plato: A truly phenomenal performance from Vaganian. It's nice to see that he's still at the top of his game, and that he remains staunch defender of the French Winawer, with excellent results! |
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| Oct-10-07 | | hovik2003: <Plato>
You want to see a masterpiece on French Defense by Vaganian check this game:
Reshevsky vs Vaganian, 1976 |
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| Oct-10-07 | | Plato: Thanks, <hovik>. Great game indeed. I am familiar with that game from the NIC article on Vaganian. I've learned the French largely by studying his games. |
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| Oct-15-07 | | Resignation Trap: Happy Birthday, GM Vaganian! How about a photo of this great veteran player? I like this one: http://www.deep-archiv.de/2005/fina... . I first heard of Vaganian when the excellent game http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... appeared in the New York Times. |
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| Oct-15-07 | | Davolni: Happy birthday to GM Vaganian!!!.
Thanks <resignation trap> for bringing it up. This is not a bad photo of him as well.
http://www.chessbase.com/images2/20... a very good article on him, posted by <AgentRgent> http://www.newinchess.com/Archives/...
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| Nov-26-07 | | Geronimo: Check out Vaganian v. Karpov Leningrad 1970 for a stunner with the Queen's Indian. Vaganian wins in 28 moves. Almost a minature. |
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Dec-26-07
 | | Domdaniel: Why do so many of the greatest exponents of the French Defence (as Black) also tend to play Reti/English systems with White? A list would include Nimzowitsch, Botvinnik, Uhlmann, Korchnoi, Vaganian, among many others. Stylistically, these are very different: yet Vaganian the creative artist and Uhlmann the solid plodder both belong in it. I also play these openings myself, but I don't think I was initially copying anyone, and I certainly wasn't following a 'repertoire' book. I may have been influenced by the example of Vaganian and Korchnoi - I can't really remember. But these different opening systems seem to cohere in some mysterious way. They fit together, even though the pawn structures are quite different. The French often seems like a flank opening in drag or a cunningly disguised QP opening. This could be the reason some 1.e4 players hate it. Ideas, anyone? |
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| Dec-27-07 | | mack: <Dom>
Interesting. To your list I suppose you could also add Mondo, who before devoting himself to all things Modern was quite the little Frenchie: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches.... If you’ve read My System, I suppose it’s impossible not to play the French at some point, isn’t it. I suspect that a partial answer is that both the French and the Reti complex survive more on ideas of structure than long, complicated variations. That is to say, the central thesis of the French - pawns on e6 & d5 with the c7-c5 break always on the cards - is, loosely speaking, autonomous. Likewise, with the Reti you can play Nf3/g3/Bg2/c4 etc against pretty much everything. This is a different thing to saying that French/Reti players will whack out such moves on autopilot - 1.Nf3 ain’t no Colle. But when you play these openings you become very attached to them. You become convinced of their universality and want to prove that they work against everything. By always playing 1...g6 I have ended up with a very similar mindset indeed. |
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| Dec-27-07 | | Chesstalesfan: Interesting discussion. Would you consider also Caro Kann in this category of *structured* defences? |
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