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Sep-08-19 | | UncleBent: <passed paun> You are looking at the August USCF Top Women List, which doesn't include all the latest events, which were in the FIDE list. And while Carissa made #1, she was just 5 pts ahead of #3 (Krush) And while the US Woman's Ch has not been very strong, next year's event will probably see 3 out the top 50 women, and 5 out of the top 80 -- and that does not include Jennifer Yu, who dropped in rating this summer. |
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Sep-08-19 | | pazzed paun: <uncle bent>
You must not have understood my previous post...
History...when Alexey Rudolph Root won the tournament she became the lowest rated player in modern history to win the USA women’s championship Each year thereafter the next years winner was higher rated than the previous year and the winners rating continued to climb year after year .. More recently the first second or even third highest rated player is unable to win the tournament and all are performing at below IM
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Fide 2600 rated susan polgar has never played in the USA women’s championship but lived in this country for 20 years No currently active female player could expect to win a match against someone at this level If the ratings stay this low it cannot be a worthwhile tournament We would not be interested in 16 year old juniors with such low ratings |
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Sep-08-19 | | UncleBent: <passed paun> I took issue with your comment that the US Women's Ch "remains a minor tournament." At present, there are 5 federations that boast stronger women's championsips ... Russia, Ukraine, Georgia, China and India. The first 3 federations are relying primarily on older veterans (with the exception of one younger "star"). China and India are on the rise, and I expect them to ascend. The USA is in a position to get to number 3. IM Norms in the US championship require at least 3 titled (GM/IM) players, and only reached that level in the years that Paikidze opted to join Krush and Zatonskih. Now, Annie Wang is an IM, Yip has the 2400 rating req. and needs just 1 more norm, Abrahmyan has the 3 norms and needs just 3 more rating points to 2400. And Yu has the 3 norms, but needs a slew of points to get to 2400, although she has the near 40K factor to help. The possibility of having 5 or 6 participants with GM/IM norms would make the 2020 US Women's Ch a very strong women's event for any federation. |
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Sep-09-19 | | pazzed paun: It would be a weak tournament
It only distinguishing feature is the participants would be women rated below 2600 uscf Before 1910 in the USA many clubs cities even entire states had no player strong enough to rated over 2100 uscf in modern equivalent
They could be called historic players but no one could ever mistake them for strong players All of these stats comparison seem like the fact that some car collectors collect Ford Pintos!
...very much a niche market but not a great one |
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Sep-09-19 | | parmetd: Okay first of all, this is probably not the correct page for this discussion. You guys are majorly off topic. Second a factual correction, IM norms have been available in the US Women's championship for YEARS. You are forgetting about IM Goletiani, Rusudan who was once #3 in the US Women's list and played the women's olympiad for the US (06-bd3, 08-bd3, 12-bd4), She made IM on 2009. While that makes only the 2009 Championship the real IM norm event, it would have been available in 2011 except the idiot format suggested by Shahade changed it from the required rounds of 9+ to 8 and it was available again in 2012 when Rusudan last played until 2018. You are overlooking several key issues when you post which is 1) IM norms (and GM norms as well) normally require different federations but one's national championship is the ONLY exception to this rule because a single federation is required to participate. And 2) It is a weak and minor event. Sorry that you don't like this fact but it's true. It's the reason that 2011 was 8 rounds and not 9 because they could only make it an extra round by inviting a low expert for all the masters to destroy... They did that in 2010 and poor Beatriz Manillo scored 1.5/10 and Abby Marshall scored .5/10 (they drew each other). While women's chess in the US has come a long way (both by growing our own players and by players changing federation), it still has much further to come. Back in 2010 when Abby Marshall played as the 9th highest rated woman in the country at 2182.... to be top 100 woman in this country it was 1600 is all that was required (vs 2410 for the men). Now you need to be 1920(!!) still extremely low but 320 points HIGHER (vs 2487 for men). Also today, 2182 would be 26th rated in the country and 2160 (Beatriz's rating) would be 29th. The fact is that the format has moved around for years because short of making it a four-five person double round robin with the olympiad team only... it's hard to come up with a format that doesn't either kill norms or invite a very weak player. The US Women's is finally starting to turn the corner on this one as the event finally is getting stronger players... but that's why you've seen Krush, Zatonskih and even Yu run the gauntlet in a way that can't be done in the men's event.
Yes, you point out the US is the 6th highest on average.... but at 6th we are 2347 which is 54 points lower than 5th placed Georgia and 141(!!) points lower than China. The US has only 1 GM and another 4 IMs which makes it at all it's all time record of 5 titled players. Compared with China whose top 5 are all 5 GMs and the lowest rated of which 2483 is higher than our highest rated 2425. |
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Oct-28-19 | | happyjuggler0: Carissa just got her third IM norm at the 2019 SPICE Cup, and since her rating is already over 2400 she just became the youngest female IM ever in the history of the US. For the sake of clarity, this is the real IM title, not the WIM title. |
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Oct-28-19 | | diceman: <Last FIDE rating: 2364 (1708 blitz)> She's only 1700 in blitz? |
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Oct-29-19 | | Caissanist: She's only played in three FIDE-rated blitz events ever, the last one two years ago. |
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Oct-30-19
 | | ketchuplover: They should do away with women's titles imo. |
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Nov-01-19 | | UncleBent: I believe Carissa is taking a year off from Phillips Andover Prep in order to study and play chess full time. Achieving the IM title is a great start and now she can begin the arduous task of earning GM Norms. |
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Feb-15-20 | | SimonWebbsTiger: Cairns Cup 2020, Round 8. Women's World Champion Ju Wenjun 0 -- Carissa Yip 1 and in great style too! |
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Feb-16-20 | | UncleBent: Great game, and an even better comeback in the tournament, after an 0-4 week; and a fantastic week for Carissa -- 1st, she is awarded the Samford Fellowship, and, now is gtd to earn at least $7,000 in Cairns Cup prize money. |
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Apr-09-20 | | wordfunph: <NEVER EASY
One of my worst tournaments was the 2017 U.S. Junior Girls, where I was the top seed but ended with 3½/9. I remember being extremely upset at myself especially after the first five rounds, where I had ½/5. But it motivated me to work harder on chess in general and also taught me the important lesson to never underestimate my opponents. - WGM Carissa Yip>
lifted from Chess Life for Kids! February 2020 |
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Oct-25-20 | | BIDMONFA: Carissa Shiwen Yip YIP, Carissa
http://www.bidmonfa.com/yip_carissa...
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Apr-16-21 | | pazzed paun: She keeps getting bad coaching
Very weak performance in recent events |
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Apr-16-21
 | | perfidious: Offering up your services? |
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Sep-10-21 | | Ironmanth: Happy birthday to you today, Carissa! Very proud of your play and for representing the USA. Stay safe, play hard, and much success to you in the upcoming US Women' Championship! |
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Oct-15-21 | | pazzed paun: The coaching sessions paid off..
Now just a little bit better on the execution |
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Oct-17-21 | | edbermac: Congrats Carissa! |
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Oct-18-21 | | cro777: IM Carissa Yip is the new US Chess Women's Champion!! Carissa: "2021 us women’s champ!! life feels too unreal" https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FB7pHCX... |
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Oct-18-21 | | cro777: Meet The New U.S. Women's Chess Champion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3g... |
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Oct-18-21
 | | Check It Out: Yip crushed it, 7 wins. Congrats, US women's champ 2021! |
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Oct-25-21 | | Pedro Fernandez: Is it Clarissa the most transcendent chess player woman ever existed? I do not know. So I need some help about this question.
Maybe my great friend, <perfidious>, can help me.
A warm greetings for you, my dear friend. |
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Oct-25-21 | | Pedro Fernandez: I mean American woman, sorry. |
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Nov-01-21 | | Caissanist: Probably it depends on what you mean by "American". She certainly seems like the strongest woman ever born in this country; I don't think there have been any American born women who became GMs, and she will surely achieve that. There have been a number of very strong women who immigrated to the US, however, notably Susan Polgar (although she's now affiliated with Hungary again), and Irina Krush (whose peak rating is still somewhat higher than Carissa's). |
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