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Oct-18-05
 | | LIFE Master AJ: <Sneaky>
Thanks for all the great posts!!! I really enjoyed the problem!
(I am a big fan of Sam Lloyd, I used to have several books on him. I think Soltis did a book on him once.) |
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Oct-18-05 | | Happypuppet: Hey, I got it! Well, sort of, I didn't exactly calculate the mate for every Black defense, just a few tricky ones. My main idea was to get the queen somewhere where Nf4+ wouldn't obstruct it. I love the elegant solutions that some composed problems have. |
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Oct-18-05 | | thomaspaine: <Sneaky>: An absolute absolute (absolute, sorry couldn't help myself) gem of a problem. A deserving use of the fantastic new feature! |
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Oct-19-05
 | | Sneaky: Loyd, Holyoke Transcrypt, 1876
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White to play and mate in 3
Solution follows next message! (By the way, this position is also a bit of a retro-analysis riddle. Is it possible to reconstruct what happened on the previous move to lead up to this position, or is it simply impossible?) |
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Oct-19-05 | | ughaibu: So the new kibitzes page is going to be covered with these? |
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Oct-19-05
 | | Sneaky: SOLUTION: Admittedly, this isn't one of Loyd's very best, because it suffers from the defect that the first move is a capture, and there are actually two moves to effect mate at the very end. Nevertheless, the brilliant underpromotion makes it all worthwhile: 1.bxa8=N !!
Taking a Q or a B would obviously draw the game instantly by stalemate. But why a Knight? It is too far away to possibly have influence on the mate, right? And if a knight works, then surely a rook would work too? Read on... ...Kxg2 (only move)
2.Nb6!!
The mate is coming on the long diagonal, so it's necessary for the knight to block b6 (otherwise Bxa7 ruins everything.) That's why 1.bxa8=R? doesn't work, because it can't protect the queening pawn. 2...any
That includes 2...Kf3, 2...Kh1, and six bishop moves. 3.a8=B#
Yes, you can promote to a queen there, but I think to finish it this way is more in the spirit of the problem. I especially like the final position when Black tries 2...Kf3, the lonely king is surrounded by all those empty squares yet he has no luft. (About the retro-analysis question: I have no clue. I am starting to think that it's impossible to achieve that position through legal moves but I'm not sure yet.) |
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Oct-19-05 | | BreakOnThru: <Sneaky> Thanks for the puzzles! Keep em coming! |
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Oct-19-05 | | BreakOnThru: <Olny srmat poelpe can. I cdnuolt blveiee that I cluod aclualty uesdnatnrd what I was rdanieg. Wtih the phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in what oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is that the first and last ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be taotl caohs and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. This is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! if you can raed this psas it>
wow, I could read that as easily as if it was normal english. |
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Oct-19-05 | | midknightblue: nice puzzle. thx. i didnt even think about puttin black in zug |
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Oct-19-05 | | Averageguy: <BreakOnThru>Who Psoetd taht? It's amazong how it works. I already knew that, because I had seen it on TV when I had one (I don't any more) |
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Oct-19-05 | | Kriegspiel: <sneaky> For some reason, Organ Pipes was an easy one for me (at the moment). Took about 5 minutes, though I admit I didn't work out all of Black's possible responses. First, it's clear that both the White queen and knight must continue to exist in order for the Black king to be mated (i.e., no sacrifices). Second, the only first move White has which checks the king without permitting the checking piece to be captured, is Qh8: from there, it is easy to see that the king has only one flight square. Obviously then, White must find a way to check the king without moving the queen off the 5th rank (since that would allow Black to move the king to a safer location). The only other safe spots (for White's queen) on the 5th rank are a5 and g5, but g5 does not permit a subsequent check which also covers the flight square: so, White's first move must be Qa5. Note that moves which severely restrict the degrees of freedom of a puzzle -- especially those which permit only a single possible response -- are frequently indicative of being on the path to solution, in these types of puzzle. Hence, when I saw that the king has a single flight square, I concentrated on a method of checking which also eliminated that flight square. Kriegspiel
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Oct-19-05 | | Happypuppet: <Averageguy> Bishop Berkeley did I believe. |
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Oct-20-05
 | | Sneaky: Wow, I just discovered something wonderful.
Sam Loyd's "Cyclopedia of Puzzles" is available for download. The main page is here: http://www.mathpuzzle.com/loyd/ The download for the entire book, in zipped HTML format, is here:
http://www.mathpuzzle.com/downloads... (40 megabyte download!) |
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Oct-20-05
 | | Sneaky: This problem is called "The Steinitz Gambit Problem." White to play and mate in three. (Loyd, 1st Place, Checkmate Magazine, 1903) click for larger viewHere's a hint: If your job was not to solve this monstrosity, but instead to simply pick a single move which you know couldn't possibly be the answer, you'd probably guess they key move! |
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Oct-20-05
 | | Sneaky: SOLUTION: The problem is that the King is not constrained but can escape to d4 and e4. How to cover d4 and e4? Brace yourself for Loyd's quirky sense of humor. 1.Ke2!! is the key move, quite shocking as it's the only move that allows Black to start to check the White king. But once the King is on e3, mate is inevitable, even if Black chooses to promote into a furious checking queen. One variation runs: 1.Ke2!! f1=Q+ 2.Ke3! Qg1+ 3.Rf2# Note that the Steinitz Gambit in the Vienna opening is 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.f4 exf4 4.d4 Qh4+ 5.Ke2, so Loyd named this the Steinitz Gambit problem since they both contained the same shocker, Ke2. |
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Oct-20-05 | | capanegra: <Sneaky> Here is an amusing anecdote extracted from Chernev's "The Bright Side of Chess" that you may like: <The "Mirror of American Sports" published a four-move problem in their Solving Tourney in 1885, with the motto "Little Footsteps." They explained that the problem had been submitted to them for publication, in a letter which read as follows:Plainfield, N. J. Dec. 1885
Chess Editor, Mirror:
My children are all fond of playing chess, and the youngest boy is particularly interested in answering the problems which appear in your paper. He asks me to send you the following little problem to take part in your prize competition, if found worthy. The author's name and solution will be found in the envelope, which he hopes you will not open until you have solved. Most respectfully,
Mrs. --------------
On February 20th, 1886 the "Mirror" published this explanatory paragraph:
In sending us "Little Footsteps" the lady whose "youngest boy" composed the problem omitted (quite inadvertently, of course) the age of her youngest born. We are now informed that it is 45 years. His name –by the way, the good old lady forgot to give that also- is Samuel Loyd! (Sam Loyd, Puzzle King, and a genius in composing chess problems).> |
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Nov-01-05 | | error: It would be interesting to look that four-move problem "little footsteps" published by the "Mirror of American Sports" in 1885. Does anybody have it? |
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Nov-03-05
 | | LIFE Master AJ: <error>
I have "The Bright Side of Chess." I think only paid members can post diagrams, though. (Send me an e-mail, I'll send you the position as a "*.jpg" attachment. If you have a CB product, I wll gladly put it into CB as well.) |
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Nov-03-05 | | aw1988: <LMAJ> I don't know if you have me on your ignore list or not, but non-paying members can also post diagrams. |
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Nov-03-05 | | Averageguy: <aw1988>Don't worry, AJ only pretends to ignore users, he doen't really. |
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Nov-06-05 | | netlava: How do you "sell" a chess problem? Because a guy can just look at it before making the purchase. |
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Nov-06-05 | | ughaibu: Netlava: a publisher reads a book before buying it. |
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Nov-09-05 | | lopium: Few days ago I wanted to start to create chess problems, Wow, I have to see his chess problems!! ahahz. I just don't have a lot of time.... |
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Dec-08-05 | | lopium: Oh... Very complicated problems here. I really have to study them. Do you know where can I see others of his chess problems? I resolved his Trick Mules Puzzle, and that was funny. |
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Dec-09-05 | | Chesschatology: <Sneaky: once the King is on e3, mate is inevitable, even if Black chooses to promote into a furious checking queen. One variation runs: 1.Ke2!! f1=Q+ 2.Ke3! Qg1+ 3.Rf2 > What about 1. ...f1=N ? Can someone poitn out the mate? |
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