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|Feb-04-14|| ||FSR: <Penguincw: ... On an unrelated note, it has been 216 years since his birth.>|
As in six cubed!?! Great Capablanca's ghost! It'll be 127 years until Johnnie Cochran's next perfect cube birthday! We'll all be dead. :-(
|Feb-05-14|| ||Sally Simpson: Of course but for a trip to India just after the London to Edinburgh correspondence match started we would having been calling the Scotch Opening - The Cochrane Opening for it was he that suggested London play it in 1825.|
London played it in the first game
Edinburgh played it in the third and fifth games.
At that time White did not always go first. For the duration of the match London had White pieces and Edinburgh the Black.
But Edinburgh had the move in 3 of these games.
So this is infact what Edinburgh saw when playing the Scotch gambit in the 2nd half of the 1820's.
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I Spent a few days with a very experinced chess historian in St.Andrews House, Edinburgh looking for the birthplace of John Cochrane.
We know it was Edinburgh, but where?
We could find no birth cert just his registration.
The mix up with the dates in February and March is because in them days you were usually registered weeks after you were born.
That is if you were a male, often females were never registered.
JC was born in February, registered in March.
We could not find out anything about where he spent his childhood or his early teens.
JC was a cousin to Admiral Thomas Cochrane.
This is the lad whose exploits inspired Captain Hornblower.
|Feb-05-14|| ||FSR: <Sally Simpson: ... At that time White did not always go first.>|
Correct. Very few people know this. For example, in the Immortal Game, Anderssen played with the Black pieces, even though he moved first. http://books.google.com/books?id=jC... For more, see my Wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White...
|Feb-06-14|| ||Sally Simpson: Cheers FSR, because I never knew that either.
Not that it makes much difference but it would be good to tell them they are infact looking at the wrong position next time some dip and their computer are trying to pull this masterpiece of creativity to shreds.
Chernev nails these sad people in 'Chess Companion' when he says some baseball spectators don't look at the majestic flight of a ball, they are too busy scribbling down stats and the batting average.
Made an error in my dates. The London - Edinburgh started in 1824 (Cochrane left London for India early 1825, that is where I stumbled).
OK one year out but considering I've seen and read the letters sent up by London for this match it was pretty clumsy of me.
|Feb-04-15|| ||Penguincw: < Feb-04-14 FSR: <Penguincw: ... On an unrelated note, it has been 216 years since his birth.>|
As in six cubed!?! Great Capablanca's ghost! It'll be 127 years until Johnnie Cochran's next perfect cube birthday! We'll all be dead. :-( >
Make that 126 years now. ;)
|Apr-07-15|| ||zanzibar: I've posted a better resolution version of his picture, and his obituary here:|
|Oct-16-15|| ||offramp: For his time he has a HUGE number of games on record. And those are the ones he bothered recording... He must have played many more games where he wrote down the moves but didn't publish the game. |
The games that we have are really good. I've enjoyed playing through the ones I've had time to play through. Bannerjee was a strong opponent who had great invention. Cochrane might, if he'd abandoned his job in the coffee shop, have become the recognized strongest player in the world, i.e. world champion.
|Oct-16-15|| ||Nosnibor: <offramp> it`s more likely that Cochrane would have to abandon his job in a tea house bearing in mind where he was playing !|
|Feb-04-16|| ||TheFocus: Happy birthday, John Cochrane.|
|Apr-03-16|| ||Richard Taylor: Why is he in the Scientific American supplement? Did they have a "diversions" section.|
Oh well, whatever, from all the games he played he obviously loved chess.
|Apr-03-16|| ||offramp: <Nosnibor: <offramp> it`s more likely that Cochrane would have to abandon his job in a tea house bearing in mind where he was playing !>|
I heard that he was a barista.
|Apr-04-16|| ||Nosnibor: <offramp> <I heard he was a barista> Yes he worked unofficially for Starbucks!|
|Apr-04-16|| ||offramp: I don't call it Starbucks I call it Starf%€$s.|
|Apr-04-16|| ||Nosnibor: I assume that you are referring to the U.K.tax liability agreed with H.M.R.C. by Starbucks.|
|Feb-04-17|| ||The Kings Domain: The old Victorian players have always been fascinating.|
|Feb-04-17|| ||ColeTrane: A great lawyer in the o.j. simpson trial (savage!).|
|Feb-04-17|| ||chesssalamander: Why is there no mention of his games with Mohishunder?!? Many theoretical novelties there!|
|Mar-13-19|| ||Nosnibor: His Cochranes many games against Mohishunder the record between two players held on C.G.com?|
|Mar-13-19|| ||MissScarlett: Speak English.|
|Mar-13-19|| ||Nosnibor: <MissScarlett> You mean write English.My post should have read Are Cochrane`s many games against Mohishunder a record on C.G.com with regard to the number played.I know that you like to adopt your school teacher approach when it suits you !|
|Mar-13-19|| ||MissScarlett: <If the words don't fit, you must a-quit.>|
Shakespeare, I think.
|Mar-13-19|| ||Retireborn: <MissS> The lyf so short, the craft so longe to lerne. Th’ assay so hard, so sharp the conquerynge, The dredful joye, alwey that slit so yerne;
Al this mene I be love.|
|Mar-13-19|| ||Sally Simpson: ***
If you select any Cochrane v Mohishunder game you will see just below a box saying: ' 447 more Cochrane/Mohishunder games'
Click on that and it tell you that and we are told:
Cochrane beat Mohishunder 282 to 127, with 39 draws in classical games.
Hope this helps.
Planning again on spending a couple of days in Culross
in the early Summer to see if I can finally nail down the exact birth place of John Cochrane.
|Mar-13-19|| ||Nosnibor: <Sally Simpson> Thankyou but that is where I picked up my source to pose the question above.|
|Aug-10-19|| ||Chesgambit: strong master he beat the turk|
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