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Mar-31-08 | | MichAdams: Decrease the size of your hash table. |
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Mar-31-08 | | sallom89: i kept it as default and still.. :/ |
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Mar-31-08 | | MichAdams: What is the default size? |
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Mar-31-08 | | sallom89: 319MB ;/ |
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Mar-31-08 | | minasina: If you had 1 GB memory, try 512 MB hash table, if 2 GB memory, try 1 GB etc. Note I really don't know. I just rememember that I read there Corus (2008) and Morelia-Linares (2008) tournament pages that <virginmind> had very fast Fritz 11 with only slow(?) Celeron processor... |
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Mar-31-08 | | minasina: ...and I also have a recollection that when using Aero, it takes 1 GB of your computer's memory, but as usual I really don't know... |
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Apr-01-08 | | sallom89: i don't mean at blitz and stuff like that, but in the long game its so slow (isn't it supposed to be at max strength at "long game"), and in rated it plays fine, i don't get that Fritz! either i don't know how to use it or its sick ;/ |
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Apr-01-08 | | virginmind: <minasina, sallom89> i dont know if or how my fritz 11 is apparently faster than others expected. all i can tell you is that after i open it, i choose "playchess.com" from the other options, then from the right list i choose broadcasts and then click on up "games" and then choose a game from those broadcasted live. then, in the opened window with the live game, from up i check "engine", then "add kibitzer fritz 11". thats basically all i do. fritz usually starts the calculation at around 13 depth and it takes some seconds to get to 14, then 15 depth. after (on average) some 15-20 seconds it passes to 16 depth, then after some another 20 seconds it reachs 17 depth. after that, it naturaly takes a bit longer to get to 18, 19 depth and so on. generally, id say on an average middle game position, it reaches depths of 18 or 19 in about 2 or 3 minutes (sometimes surely it needs longer, maybe 5 minutes). also, as the game goes on, fritz remembers the previous tryings on the position (probably) and for the subseqent moves it takes less time to reach higher plys (depths), or it simply starts from already high plys. the hashable size i keep it at 380 or 512 mb (depending on the power of the pc i'm at). i use windows xp on my both pc's. on the slower one i have 1 gb ram, on the faster one i have 2 gb ram. obviously, fritz tends to run faster on the faster pc. other than that i really have no idea what to tell you about why my fritz 11 goes (apparently) faster than yours. |
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Apr-01-08 | | virginmind: obviously, i was referring at watching games played live on playchess server with fritz - and checking how fritz evaluates the position and the best next move (moves) it proposes. as of playing personally a game with fritz, thats another story and yeah, if i set it for "long game" it does tend to take more time until giving me his move (anything between 2-3 and 25 minutes or more per move) |
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Apr-01-08 | | sallom89: my fritz is fast while analyzing a live chess game, well i think i didn't have a problem then :s but its so slow compared to other programs, comparing it to rebel or such.
i heard "long game" gives the highest strength or is it "Rated game" ? |
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Apr-01-08 | | MaxxLange: I think rated game, with the "unleashed" box checked, is the strongest. rated game disables taking back moves, too |
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Apr-01-08 | | minasina: Ok, thanks <virginmind>. Well <sallom89> Rebel is history ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REBEL_... , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o... ), can't compare with today's engines. Hmm...today's engines should be faster...Well, anyway they are stronger: http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/rat... (not updated but still interesting stuff: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_... ). |
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Apr-01-08 | | minasina: <virginmind:...i choose "playchess.com" from the other options, then from the right list i choose broadcasts and then click on up "games" and then choose a game from those broadcasted live. then, in the opened window with the live game, from up i check "engine", then "add kibitzer fritz 11".> 1) Is this what you can do when you have Fritz AND you have registered at Playchess.com (not entering as a guest)? 2) So, does that "add kibitzer fritz 11" function after all mean that Fritz analyses are coming direct from Playchess.com server, not really using calculation ability of your own Fritz and your computer? 3) Do you just copy the clipboard of that moment when there is an infinite analysis going on and paste it here at Chessgames.com tournament pages? |
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Apr-01-08 | | sallom89: <1) Is this what you can do when you have Fritz AND you have registered at Playchess.com (not entering as a guest)?> yes i think so, when u are able to watch live games on playchess.com and analyze them if you have fritz. <2) So, does that "add kibitzer fritz 11" function after all mean that Fritz analyses are coming direct from Playchess.com server, not really using calculation ability of your own Fritz and your computer?> no, you do use your own fritz & computer..and its very fast while analyzing a live game somehow, when ever u click a game from live broadcast it analysis moves if the option (add kibitzer: fritz 11) is on. <3) Do you just copy the clipboard of that moment when there is an infinite analysis going on and paste it here at Chessgames.com tournament pages?> i guess that is what <virginmind> do and all other people who send analyzes here on tournament pages. after all those questions was directed to <virginmind>, but i figured out that i can save him some time, since he thought me how to do the live game analyzing, in other words he does it the same way. thanks for help <minasina><MaxxLange>< virginmind> |
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Apr-02-08 | | virginmind: <minasina, sallom89>
1) i have registered first to playchess, but its also possible that this feature is available for guests, you should try it. anyway, registering is free (a fee is required only to have access to other features of playchess server - chatting etc) 2) i access the playchess server (and games live) through fritz 11 using this option it offers, but the calculation is done by fritz engine and surely taking advantage of the power of the processor and configuration (ram etc) of the pc. 3) yeah, i just wait until the calculation for a variant (best move expected) has reached a deep enough level (18-20 ply), then right click in the analysis window (showing the variants the engine offers for the next move), choose "clip analysis", then paste in the kibitz window from chessgames and send it to kibitzers. this sends both the diagram of position and the evaluation/variants offered for the next moves. |
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Apr-02-08 | | minasina: Ok, thanks <virginmind, sallom89>. I have preferred using one click easy access links to the official sites of tournaments. Sometimes I have used Playchess.com, but I have entered only as a guest, not as a registered user. Well, I need to register. One reason can also be that I have noticed that sometimes even players' moves come earlier to the Playchess than to the official sites. |
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Apr-04-08 | | Magnusch: <Hallo Everyone!> Thank you all for helping me with the following problem: I did recently buy Fritz 11 and I want it to play against itself, autoplay Fritz - Fritz. I have looked in the menu's but I can not find out how to do it. I think I will *ยค#& the programmers if it is impossible to do. Please help me someone! Many kisses fro m my lovely Dream Girl - who is not mine (but only in dreams). |
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Apr-04-08 | | Tomlinsky: <Magnusch> Look at the Shootout options under the Tools>Analysis menus. |
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Apr-04-08 | | sallom89: < Magnusch> some stuff u said were weird, but lets get back to the subject.. i only managed to make fritz play against crafty.. that is engine vs engine, i am not sure and don't think its possible if u can make fritz vs fritz using one computer. |
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Apr-05-08 | | Magnusch: <Tomlinsky> Thank you! It worked out well. |
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May-06-08 | | Jabot: I just got a copy of Fritz 11 and I am trying to find the 13 hours of video that they advertise. I don't know where it is. Can anyone give me a pointer on how to access that? |
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Jul-28-08 | | whiteshark: <Gimme an F> |
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Aug-23-08 | | myschkin: . . .
In 1999, the chess program Fritz became the first chess software ever played in space. It was aboard the Mir space station. |
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Sep-04-08 | | Kaspablanca: why isnt fritz the flagship program of chessbase anymore?, Rybka took its place. |
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Mar-09-09 | | blacksburg: i hate you fritz. you're always making fun of my chess moves and you talk too much trash. |
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