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| Oct-08-12 | | Travis Bickle: Hey Phony you get The Bears game on free TV over there in Detroit? My set went out and I don't know what the result was. Your Pal,
Travis |
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Oct-08-12
 | | Phony Benoni: Hey, <Travis>, the Bears game was halted at halftime with the score 3-3, due to incompetence. The second half was played with with replacement players, referees, and especially scorekeepers. That's how Chicago wound up winning 41-3. But the Bears are looking pretty good at the moment. |
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Oct-08-12
 | | OhioChessFan: <But the Bears are looking pretty good at the moment.> As good as a team with Jay Cutler at QB can look, anyway. |
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| Oct-08-12 | | Travis Bickle: Dr Benoni, your Tigers are looking really good also! |
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| Oct-08-12 | | Travis Bickle: <OhioChessFan> Your just a frustrated Cleveland Browns fan. ; P Even The Bengals lost yesterday lol! P.S. Elvis, I have an autographed photo of this moment when the President gave me The Medal of Honor!
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_9GHLPOr8W... |
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Oct-08-12
 | | OhioChessFan: I root for the Cincinnati teams. Bengals were awful yesterday, but the Reds are rocking. |
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Oct-08-12
 | | OhioChessFan: Here's when I got my Medal of Honor:
http://www.comicbookbrain.com/_imag... |
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Oct-08-12
 | | WannaBe: The Reds just scored, again!! |
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| Oct-08-12 | | Travis Bickle: <OhioChessFan> Yeah Tricky Dick made you a DEA! LOL! |
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Oct-08-12
 | | WannaBe: So far, I've counted 3 MIAs in my division at work. =)) |
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| Oct-08-12 | | technical draw: Cincinnati was my former favorite team. That was in the 70's in the big red machine days. Now my team is the Yankees. I'll have mixed feelings if the Reds and the Yankees were to meet in the world series. |
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Oct-08-12
 | | OhioChessFan: <I'll have mixed feelings if the Reds and the Yankees were to meet in the world series.> Me too. I'll have to decide if I hate the Yankees or the traitorous rat td more. |
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| Oct-08-12 | | Jim Bartle: Tha Yankees better hope they don't meet the Reds. They got swept--more like crushed--last time. http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/... |
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| Oct-08-12 | | technical draw: <Jim> I was a Reds fan in '76 so I was probably gloating over the 4 game sweep. I think it was in '96 that I changed alliances. |
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Oct-08-12
 | | Phony Benoni: In the last couple of weeks, I've seen the Tigers win with a walk-off infield groundout and a walkoff sacrifice fly. In the past, I've seen walkoff wild pitches, walkoff passed balls, walkoff walks, walkoff hit-by-pitches, and walkoff strikeouts where the third strike got past the catcher. However, the Holy Grail remains the Walk-off Catcher's Interference. When that happens, I will have seen everything. |
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| Oct-08-12 | | Jim Bartle: How about a walkoff balk? |
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Oct-08-12
 | | Phony Benoni: Well, everybody knows about the time Charlie Brown balked home the tying and winning runs in the championship game. As for reality, the statheads over at Baseball Reference found about a dozen, of which this is the first: http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/... A couple of interesting things, like walking Frank Robinson intentionally with runners on first and second to face Tony Perez--who, of course, was still officially a rookie. And the Cubs are probably still moaning, "We traded Lou Brock for this?" |
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| Oct-08-12 | | tbentley: http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/... The part in bold doesn't make sense to me. |
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| Oct-08-12 | | Jim Bartle: Garvey at shortstop sounds like a horror film. And third base not much better. |
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| Oct-08-12 | | Jim Bartle: I hate to read this: Alex Karras has only days to live. I always liked the guy starting from reading the great chapter about him in "Paper Lion." What a character, and a great player, too. I guess the Lions had Schmidt, Karras, Walker, Night Train Lane, LeBeau, Yale Lary, and Roger Brown on the same defense. I remember Karras said he could have blocked Tom Dempsey's field goal, except he was laughing too hard at the idea of trying a 74-yarder: "And then we heard this sound, a deeper more powerful sound than we'd ever heard before..." |
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Oct-09-12
 | | WannaBe: http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/... |
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Oct-09-12
 | | Phony Benoni: <tbentley> Amazing. Now I have seen everything. As for the statement in bold, do you mean this from the final inning: <rule 6.08(c) C Int and balk!! Bench per TSN stepped in front of plate on Mota SBH attempt and tagged him but that is interference-bases loaded
so Crawford given RBI but in exact same situation in different year batter 0 RBI we are unable to show this as one play;> Retrosheet has a standard method for describing games, but this was a unique situation that didn't fit any of their scenarios. The catcher's interference occurred when Bench stepped in front of the plate without the ball to tag out Mota, who was trying to steal home. Normally, in this case the batter is awarded first base, but no runners are allowed to advance. (This is all in rule 6.08c). However, the rule also refers to a special penalty in rule 7.07, that states when a runner is trying to steal home both catcher's interference and a balk are called. With the bases loaded this means the runner scores in any event. Now here is the interesting part. If the play is counted as catcher's interference, the batter gets a run batted in (rule 10.04b). In the other game mentioned, the bases probably weren't loaded, meaning the runner scored only because of the balk; thus, the batter got no RBI. As for the other bolded passage:
<both Dodger sources show Garvey to SS then back to 3B, guess here in this
inning-last year LA also did this; Mac and Neft don't show Garvey ever playing SS.> What I imagine happened here was that the Dodgers were anticipating a bunt, and figured Wills could handle it at 3B better than Garvey. |
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Oct-09-12
 | | Phony Benoni: <JB> I watched the Dempsey field goal on TV, and was screaming "Watch out for the fake! It has to be a fake!" Some birthday present. |
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| Oct-09-12 | | Jim Bartle: Oops, typed wrong above. I meant a 63-yd FG, of course. |
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Oct-09-12
 | | keypusher: More re Karras: In 1962 the Lions were the only team to beat the Packers, on Thanksgiving. Earlier in the year they were leading the Packers 7-6 when Milt Plum threw a late interception. The Packers kicked a FG to win. Karras apparently had to be restrained from pummeling Plum in the locker room. The game was the subject of Vince Lombardi's <Run to Daylight>, a very good book, or so I thought when I was ten. http://www.pro-football-reference.c... http://www.pro-football-reference.c... Sacks weren't an official stat in 1962 but PFR shows ten for the Lions in the Thanksgiving game. |
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