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| Oct-09-12 | | Jim Bartle: Looking at those game scores, it seemed so strange to see "13-yard field goal" and "15-yard field goal." Then I remembered the goalpost was on the goal line until the early 70s. With the speed of today's players I can't imagine having a big post in the middle of the end zone, no matter how padded. |
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Oct-09-12
 | | keypusher: <Jim Bartle: Looking at those game scores, it seemed so strange to see "13-yard field goal" and "15-yard field goal." Then I remembered the goalpost was on the goal line until the early 70s. With the speed of today's players I can't imagine having a big post in the middle of the end zone, no matter how padded.> Agree. Of course it was two big posts smack on the goal line, then two posts set back from the goal line [http://www.tommcmahon.net/2010/12/n... then the tuning fork design in 1967 (thank you, Wikipedia). Another curiosity -- early in the '62 season the Bears lost 49-0 to the Packers (Lombardi mentions this in the book, noting that he hopes defeat no longer hurts Halas as much as it hurts him). Later in the year they beat the Colts 57-0. Hard to believe a team could win and lose by scores like that in the same season. The Bears finished 9-5, third in the Western Conference behind the Packers and the Lions. The following year, of course, the Bears won Halas his last championship. |
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Oct-09-12
 | | keypusher: Maybe this link will work.
http://www.tommcmahon.net/2010/12/n... |
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| Oct-09-12 | | Jim Bartle: As I think I've mentioned before, there was a huge difference in the scores of the two SF-Chicago games in 1965. The 49ers won the season opener 52-24, after leading 45-3 in the fourth quarter. Then later in the year in Chicago the Bears eked out a win, 61-20. That was the famous "Gale Sayers six TDs in the mud" game. How in the world did the Bears manage to get Butkus and Sayers with the third and fourth picks? The first two picks were Tucker Frederickson and Ken Willard. Willard was a good player, very popular, on the 49ers, but no Sayers. |
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Oct-09-12
 | | Phony Benoni: Hadn't thought about, but this will be the 50th anniversary of that Lions - Packers game. I watched it--and enjoyed it--but didn't realize the significance at the time. This is one of the iconic photographs in Detroit sports history: http://bp1.blogger.com/_Pk49mVrUKD0... |
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Oct-09-12
 | | keypusher: <Jim Bartle: As I think I've mentioned before, there was a huge difference in the scores of the two SF-Chicago games in 1965. The 49ers won the season opener 52-24, after leading 45-3 in the fourth quarter. Then later in the year in Chicago the Bears eked out a win, 61-20.> I remember reading that Butkus just got eaten alive in the first game -- of course he was a rookie up against a great QB. Really sorry I never got to see Butkus or Sayers play. |
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Oct-09-12
 | | keypusher: <Phony Benoni> Hard to believe Bart Starr was ever seen again. I could waste the day at Pro Football Reference -- I often have. Just read a book about the 1972 Dolphins, but it didn't mention the biggest mystery of the season for me -- Earl Morrall scoring on a 31-yard run against the Jets. How on Earth did that happen? |
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| Oct-09-12 | | Jim Bartle: Funny you refer to Brodie as a "great QB." He was, but it took the 49ers a long time to realize it, or else he developed late. In the early 60s they wanted to go to the shotgun full time, which was revolutionary back then. So they traded YA Tittle, a great passer but slow-footed. But they didn't give the job to Brodie full time; he had to share it with rookie Billy Kilmer. Then they got absolutely crushed by the Bears and Bill George, so they went back to the T. Brodie was the first-stringer most of the time through the 60s, but the team drafted George Mira and tried him, and drafted Steve Spurrier. Both were given good chances, Brodie on the bench, but didn't come through. And then Brodie took a step up around 1970 with receivers like Gene Washington and Ted Kwalick. |
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Oct-09-12
 | | keypusher: And here it is, at 11:15. Morrall looks surprisingly fleet. #55, John Ebersole, takes a terrible angle and basically cuts off #57, John Little, who looks like he would have caught Morrall otherwise. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzly...
The Dolphins' longest TD run of 1972. |
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Oct-09-12
 | | WannaBe: It will be around 9PM when game starts, which means <Phony Benoni> will be good for about 2 and 1/2 inning. :-)) |
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| Oct-10-12 | | Travis Bickle: Here's Gayle Sayers at #22 of the best 100 NFL Players. http://youtu.be/LKn90bWQWaw |
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| Oct-10-12 | | Travis Bickle: Here's Dick Butkus at number 10?? of NFL 100 Greatest Players. http://youtu.be/VcDpeF8ffKY |
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| Oct-10-12 | | Travis Bickle: Here's Gayle Sayers 6 touchdowns in 1 game!!
http://youtu.be/9XbAuCZAVDA |
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Oct-10-12
 | | WannaBe: Aargh, we've lost Alex Karras. =( |
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| Oct-10-12 | | playground player: <keypusher> Thanks for the anecdote. Now I understand why, years later, when Milt Plum was winding up his career with the NY Giants, Alex Karras said all those derogatory things about him. Some people really know how to carry a grudge. |
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Oct-10-12
 | | WannaBe: Eleven former team-mates of Lance Armstrong testified, that he doped, this information was released by the US Anti-Doping Agency. |
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Oct-10-12
 | | WannaBe: Great game going on in New York. And I'm not (trying/being) funny. 2-2 game. |
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Oct-10-12
 | | perfidious: <WannaBe> Just got worse-the Yankee scum pulled it out! |
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Oct-10-12
 | | WannaBe: 2-1 Detroit over the A's, in the seventh inning...
Wonder where/how our host <Phony Benoni> is doing. |
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Oct-10-12
 | | Phony Benoni: <perfidious> Easy, fellow. No doubt the universe is unfolding as it should. In any event this is not a moment to be introducing Bad Karma and trying to mess things up. At least, not while the Tigers are still ahead. |
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Oct-11-12
 | | Phony Benoni: Darn Yankees. |
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Oct-11-12
 | | keypusher: Congrats on the Giants, Jim! This is just bragging, but I'm going to the Yankees game tonight. Should be fun. |
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Oct-11-12
 | | OhioChessFan: Ouch. I don't think the better team won, but I guess the Giants aren't too concerned about that. |
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Oct-11-12
 | | OhioChessFan: <Must whine this much> Man, the plate umpire had a bad game. |
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| Oct-11-12 | | technical draw: Good thing I quit the Reds back then. Talk about "olympic freeze". |
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