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Jul-23-16
 | | saffuna: I think an IBB requires two wide ones. |
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Jul-23-16
 | | Phony Benoni: Besides the scenario OCF came up with earlier, I can envision a team conceding a walk-off IBB to protect a teammate in the batting race. That's getting close to the Integrity of the Game, but with what has gone on in the past it wouldn't surprise me. |
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Jul-23-16
 | | Penguincw: Too bad all this IBB stuff might be gone in the future: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/.... Obviously pathetic if they think an IBB is what's slowing down a game... I don't know about you guys, but I'm still waiting for the game where a player is intentionally walked with the bases loaded, and that team wins because of it. To date, all 6 teams that have issued an RBI IBB have won. |
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Jul-23-16
 | | saffuna: It can make sense. Ahead by four, ninth inning, bases loaded, two out, Ted Williams at bat. Walk him. |
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Jul-23-16
 | | WannaBe: I tell ya, I was watching the SF/NYY game at the friend's house before we went to see Star Trek. Funniest sheet, second and third, one out, SF calls IBB, darn near lost the game when one sailed high, but the catcher saved it. Immediately next inning, almost same thing, man on third, one out, NYY calls for IBB to setup a double-play. And the pitcher sails it way over the head of the catcher. But it bounced right back and on replay you can see the third base coach Roberto Kelly clapping and encouraging the runner to take off. If I remember correctly, it was A. Chapman who was pitching, and I'm not sure how good he would have been covering the plate on a play like that. Almost, almost(!!) IBB-off. And here I am, thinking that IBB-off is impossible. Stupid moi. |
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Jul-23-16
 | | WannaBe: Well, technically, IBB-WP off. =)) |
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Jul-24-16
 | | WannaBe: (T)here's another scenario, if a player, drops an easy popup in foul territory, is an error charged? If yes, a team then can throw a perfect game, but have the line 0 0 1 Or 0 0 2... =) |
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Jul-24-16
 | | Penguincw: Speaking of walk-offs, there's another walkout that I thought of. It's possible, but not going to happen: walk-off groundout. Say runner on 3rd, 1 out. Batter hits a ground ball, fielder throws to 1st, runner scores, home team wins. Obviously not going to happen, since the throw will go home if the runner is trying to score, but could happen, if say, fielder forgets how many outs (but if you're playing in, you're pretty much instructed to throw home over first). ---
< WannaBe: ... perfect game ... > Random question that came to my mind. Let's just say you're playing in some league where there's a mercy rule if you lead by a certain amount of runs (say 10). Your pitcher is throwing a perfect game/no-hitter with your team up 9 runs. Do you stop scoring just to let that guy throw a perfect game/no-hitter (and when it's gone, then you go back to business)? Oh, and regarding no-hitters. Generally a team celebrates when a pitcher(s) throws a no-hitter/perfect game. But who do you mob if a player hits a walk-off home run to win the World Series while completing a perfect game/no-hitter? Do you celebrate if you throw a no-hitter and still lose the game? |
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Jul-24-16
 | | saffuna: Correct, <wannabe>. Still s perfect game. Don Bsylor dropped a pop foul in Clemens' 20K game. Otherwise it would have been a 19K game. |
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Jul-24-16
 | | OhioChessFan: <Besides the scenario OCF came up with earlier, I can envision a team conceding a walk-off IBB to protect a teammate in the batting race. That's getting close to the Integrity of the Game, but with what has gone on in the past it wouldn't surprise me.> Anyone recall the year Ricky Henderson stole a lot of bases in meaningless games that weren't close on the scoreboard to try to win the SB title?* IIRC he stole third in that sort of situation, against the team that had the other SB contender. I suggested to my friends watching the game that the pitcher should make a discrete balk move to get Henderson to third and deny him the steal. ====
* Now I have to go search this out to see how good my memory is. |
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Jul-24-16
 | | OhioChessFan: <Wassabi: (T)here's another scenario, if a player, drops an easy popup in foul territory, is an error charged? If yes, a team then can throw a perfect game, but have the line 0 0 1> Yes on both counts. |
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Jul-24-16
 | | OhioChessFan: <Penguin: But who do you mob if a player hits a walk-off home run to win the World Series while completing a perfect game/no-hitter? > The guy that hit the home run. You mob according to your team being at bat/in the field. Reminds me of the interesting fact that guys who score ahead of a winning home run get a lot of undeserved hand slaps at home plate. Sometimes that guy is on base because he got on by a Fielder's Choice and the guy who actually got a hit and kept the inning alive has to head back to the dugout. <Do you celebrate if you throw a no-hitter and still lose the game?> No. |
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Jul-24-16
 | | saffuna: Espn finished its Top 100 baseball playets all time. The Top Ten included Lou Gehrig, Walter Johnson (#10), and eight outfielders. I find it very difficult to believe that only one pitcher, one infielder (and not a middle infielder) and no catcher is among the ten best. Joe Morgan was ranked #38. 38! It seems clear the rankings are seriously skewed toward hitting stats. |
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Jul-24-16
 | | Phony Benoni: Just from glancing at ESPN's picks earlier, the hitting bias stood out. But which of the eight outfielder would you omit? |
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Jul-24-16
 | | perfidious: <saffuna....Don Bsylor dropped a pop foul in Clemens' 20K game. Otherwise it would have been a 19K game.> I was at that game, but had forgotten the error.
As far as Kurkjian's comments go, it is not clear to me--and unfortunately, we shall never know--but Lou Gehrig had already begun to decline in 1938, his last full season. Was it normal decline, or due in some part to the ALS which eventually ravaged him? That too is unknowable. |
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Jul-24-16
 | | WannaBe: O glorious and relaxing Sunday, got SF/NYY right now, then later we'll have LAD/StL. Let's play two! =) |
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Jul-24-16
 | | WannaBe: T. Lincecum got destroyed today. 1.1 IP 7H 8R 8ER 0K 3HR 50 pitches, 26 for strikes. Ouch. |
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Jul-25-16
 | | perfidious: The days of Lincecum and back to back Cy Young awards now seem unreachably long ago. He was one tough little pitcher to hit in those days. |
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Jul-25-16
 | | WannaBe: A. Chapman returning to NL, as NYY agreed to terms with ChiCubs. http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/1... |
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Jul-25-16
 | | WannaBe: Don't know why ChiCubs need Chapman:
Team have 19 saves, which is 3rd lowest in the NL:
http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_... 10 blown saves:
http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_... Earlier in the season ESPN had articles on how little worked Rondon (18 sv) was getting, because the team was blowing out everyone. Now they get Chapman?! Rondon is getting 544K this year (Cheap!) What are the Cubbies thinking? |
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Jul-25-16
 | | Penguincw: Good point <WannaBe>. Even though the Yankees didn't get Schwarber or whatever, I still feel like they got the better part of the deal. But of course, if you have 2 closers on your team, you can rather trade one away for something else, or make one of them the setup man (or some other bullpen role). Surprisingly, the Jays', Giants' and Cubs' bullpens have the least use this season: http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/sortable.j.... Should be fun when Chapman could possibly face the Reds later this season. |
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Jul-25-16
 | | Penguincw: Good point <WannaBe>. Even though the Yankees didn't get Schwarber or whatever, I still feel like they got the better part of the deal. But of course, if you have 2 closers on your team, you can rather trade one away for something else, or make one of them the setup man (or some other bullpen role). Surprisingly, the Jays', Giants' and Cubs' bullpens have the least use this season: http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/sortable.j... Should be fun when Chapman could possibly face the Reds later this season. In other news, the only interleague matchup to have not occured yet is the Jays hosting the Padres - that will finally take place tonight. |
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| Jul-25-16 | | Party Animal: The Cubs get a left hander that throws 100 mph plus to finish off games when Rondon doesn't match up with a pinch hitter. Plus the starters only have to go 6 innings now with Grim, newly acquired veteran Joe Nathan, set up man Pedro Strop & now 2 closers Rondon & Chapman! |
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Jul-25-16
 | | WannaBe: <Party Animal> Totally disagree with this match up 'argument'. How many teams carry two closers because of match ups? (e.g. Righty vs Lefty as batter/pitcher?) Look at the careers of some of the closers, Dan Quisenberry, Eric Gagne, Mario Riviera, as names quick come to mind. They go in, close out the game on 14 or so pitches. Manager(s) didn't worry about "Oh, they have 3 rightys and 2 leftys left on the bench to pinch-hit..." |
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Jul-25-16
 | | WannaBe: Over the weekend, Ichiro (only) pinch hit in the three games Marlins played. So he's still 4 hits shy of 3K, Marlins will play 3 vs Philly (Mon-Wed) and 4 vs StL (Thu-Sun). |
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