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| Oct-28-09 | | Jim Bartle: "(Unless his name is Bob Gibson and the manager wishes to live through the series.)" That's the truth. Gibson started nine Series games and finished every one. Yet he got lit up a couple of times and almost any other pitcher would have been pulled. "I had a commitment to his heart" and all that. |
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Oct-28-09
 | | Phony Benoni: By the way, I wasn't making up the bit about the broken ankle: http://books.google.com/books?id=RV... |
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Oct-28-09
 | | keypusher: <Jim Bartle: Opinions on where the NY infield rates? The best I can remember are from the 70s, the Reds (Perez, Morgan, Concepcion, Rose) and Dodgers (Garvey, Lopes, Russell, Cey). The 1964 Cardinals (White, Javier, Groat, Boyer) got a lot of attention when all were named to the All-Star team, but I'd say they're a notch below. Same with the Orioles of Powell, Johnson, Belanger, and Robinson. Looks to me as if today's Yankees are right up there.> Bill James took a look at this in his 2001 statistical abstract, using his win shares system (sorry to bring up James again, but he's all I know about baseball). The top infields were the Philadelphia Athletics "$100,000 infield" of 1910-1914. The other really high rating infield was the Pittsburgh Pirates of 1908, basically because of Honus Wagner. 1908 was the deadest of dead ball years, so making adjustments for overall scoring, in modern terms Wagner was a gold glove shortshop who hit better than Barry Bonds on steroids (sorry). That's a pretty valuable guy. Of the modern teams, the 70s Reds infield rated the highest. James allowed that they might well be the best of all, since it's likely that the overall level of competition had gotten higher since the days of Home Run Baker. The 70s Dodgers played together longer than any infield ever, but none of them was a true superstar. Similarly, the Orioles were as good defensively as any infield ever, but Belanger was a terrible hitter and Brooks Robinson wasn't a great one. The 80s Orioles infield, with Cal Ripken and Eddie Murray, didn't make the top either. Today's Wall St. Journal points out that the Phillies wanted to draft Mark Teixeira in 2001 but passed because they figured (no doubt rightly) that they couldn't afford him. Imagine an infield of Teixeira (at third), Ryan Howard, Chase Utley and Jimmy Rollins. |
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| Oct-28-09 | | Jim Bartle: Yes, Honus Wagner clearly the best SS in history. Don't know much about the other infields from the early 20th century. One that I forgot was the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers: Cooper, Gantner, Yount and Molitor. Yount had one of the best years of any shortstop. And Molitor and Cooper were excellent hitters. |
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| Oct-28-09 | | hangingenprise: gee how do the fans feel in cleveland land seeing both their pitchers in the world series? lee is zoned |
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| Oct-28-09 | | Jim Bartle: Matsui fell asleep. Not a Yankee type play. |
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| Oct-28-09 | | hangingenprise: and utley just joined him |
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Oct-28-09
 | | keypusher: Not looking good for the evil empire. <phony benoni>, if you can't travel, that's fine, and thank God and Darpa for the internet. But if you want to, I am sure your B.C. can be tracked down and a passport issued. |
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| Oct-28-09 | | Jim Bartle: My prediction of the Yankees in three is not looking good. |
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Oct-28-09
 | | Phony Benoni: <keypusher> Oh, I'm just being lazy about it. I know it's available for the asking (and a small fee), even though I was born in Arkansas. |
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Oct-28-09
 | | Phony Benoni: A bad night for the Yankees, but hardly a disaster. The key to the game was Cliff Lee's phenomenal pitching, and the shaky Yankees bullpen. Sabbathia didn't pitch that badly; he just needs to rememer to walk Chase Utley intentionally. |
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| Oct-29-09 | | chessmoron: I see another win for Phillies tomorrow. |
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Oct-29-09
 | | Phony Benoni: I can predict with 100% certainty that the Phillies will not win tomorrow--unless the game gets postponed until Friday, in which case they will have a chance. |
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| Oct-29-09 | | chessmoron: AJ Brunett was horrid in his lost to the Angels and Pedro Martinez is going to stifle NY Yankees again unless Phillies manager pulls Pedro out too early. |
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Oct-29-09
 | | Phony Benoni: <chessmoron> Well, maybe. But again I would remind you that the game is scheduled for tonight, not tomorrow. |
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| Oct-29-09 | | chessmoron: <Phony> I live in the West Coast. 3 hour difference. :D |
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Oct-29-09
 | | Phony Benoni: Ah! I thought you might have been behind the times!
Which reminds me that it's time for my semiannual rant about Davylight Saving Time. Now don't get me wrong. I'm in favor of an extra hour of sleep, any time, any place. But why in the world set back the clocks on Sunday morning? 97% of Americans already sleep late on Sunday, so it's just wasted. What we ought to do is set back the clocks at 2:00 AM Monday morning, when people can really use an extra hour of sleep! We do this, and you can get rid of all those annoying public service announcements since nobody will forget to set their clocks back. |
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| Oct-29-09 | | A.G. Argent: Czar, is the WS format the same as the LCS; 2-3-2? Or do they change it to 2-2-1-1-1? |
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Oct-29-09
 | | Phony Benoni: <A.G. Argent> 2-3-2, with days off following Games 2 and 5. http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/schedule/ps.... |
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| Oct-29-09 | | playground player: <Jim Bartle> Don't forget Connie Mack's famous "$100,000 infield" of Stuffy McInniss (1B), Eddie Collins (2B, HOF), Jack Barry (SS), and Frank "Home Run" Baker (3B, HOF), Philadelphia Athletics, 1911. I wonder how much that infield would cost today. You could barely get Johnny LeMaster for $100,000 today. |
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Oct-29-09
 | | keypusher: The other interesting dead ball infield is the 1906-1910 Cubs. Tinker, Evers and Chance are considered some of the weakest players in the Hall of Fame, there only because of the silly poem. But the Cubs in those five years were the winningest franchise in the history of baseball, by a wide margin. So they must have been doing something right. |
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| Oct-29-09 | | Jim Bartle: Chance in particular got undeserved credit in the poem, since the first baseman has little or nothing to do with the quality of the double plays. I have to say the Phils' infield looks pretty good at the moment, with three All-star types and only average at third base. |
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| Oct-29-09 | | technical draw: I don't like what's going on with the Yankees now. It may even appear that the Phillies actually have a chance to win this series. Although the Yanks can, and have, won four in a row, I have this heavy feeling in my gut that the Yankees have peaked and the Phillies are peaking. Anyway, a weak, go Yankees! |
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| Oct-29-09 | | Deus Ex Alekhina: I would hope that the Phils put Cliff (Space Cadet) Lee in tonite's game on defense just to see what wackiness he will come up with. |
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Oct-29-09
 | | Phony Benoni: Don't know about that psychoanalysis, <td>. At the moment, I think the Yankes are feeling considerably more piqued than the Phillies. |
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