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Apr-09-11 | | playground player: <Phony Benoni> Last year, your forum was an online baseball park. This year I can hear the crickets chirping. Sumpin' tells me baseball is in trouble! |
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Apr-09-11
 | | Phony Benoni: <playground player> More likely the forum is in trouble. But no doubt people are busy elsewhere this year, and I've been concentrating on other stuff too. Besides, the Tigers didn't do much to excite me in the off season, and it looks like a long year. It has nothing to do with baseball per se. There's a cyclical fifteen minutes of fame for everything, and perhaps this is baseball's off time. It will return and go away again. Or are you upset because the Red Sox finally won a game, and against the Yankees to boot? |
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Apr-09-11 | | Travis Bickle: Hows it going Dr Benoni? Long time no speak. Have you been spending a lot of time in the depths of the library researching the games of Julius Caesar or maybe developing a chess Novelty! ; P |
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Apr-09-11
 | | Phony Benoni: <Travis> I gave up on chess novelties the day some guy sprung "All Jump Chess" on me. In this variant, all pieces have the knight's ability to jump. So we sat down, he took White and played <1.Bb5#>, and I got out a blunt instrument ... well, suffice it to say I don't bother with chess novelties any more. |
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Apr-09-11 | | Deus Ex Alekhina: Cabrera Sobriety Watch 2011. Disclaimer: The following speculation is for entertainment purposes only and makes no claim or representation to real events or persons, living or dead. Thus, Cabrera is widely respected and admired by all of the Tigers, coaches, and management and we can assume that they are protective of him. We can further assume that corporate insisted that Mig get treatment. One commom form of treatment for alcoholism is antabuse, which causes a queasy stomach and vomiting. Mig was reported as sick during Monday's game with the O's, vomiting. Two other players claimed that they were also "sick". (Really?) Mig is being watched very carefully; he would not likely be able to sneak away for a drink, but he could easily slip a hotel worker a few bucks for a 6 pack. As far as I know, there has been no speculation in the press about this, but this does not look good. |
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Apr-10-11 | | playground player: <Phony Benoni> I'm off the Yankees, since I can't afford to watch them anymore, so the Sox can beat up on them all they want. Meanwhile, do you or anyone else around here ever play "kings"? For the benefit of the uninitiated, it's a checkers variant. You start with six kings each, lined up at opposite corners of the board. You can make complicated moves by jumping your own men foreward, backward, any which way. The game is fast and fun... and very few people seem to know about it anymore. I tried to introduce it to my chess club, but no one there had ever seen it before--not even the kids. If the game of Kings has gone extinct, and I still play it, does that make me a Grand Master of Kings? |
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Apr-10-11
 | | Phony Benoni: Wait, wait, wait... Each player has six kings, lined up at opposite corners of the board? How many corners does the board have? I'm too much of a pattern-oriented person to enjoy variants much. If the game ever reverts to nothing but Fischer Random, I'll be outta here. I have played a lot of Loser's chess, but given my style that's a natural development. |
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Apr-11-11 | | playground player: <Phony Benoni> Looks like you've never played Kings, so I'll elucidate. You use an ordinary checkerboard, and the Kings are positioned [here I shift to chess terminology to make it easier] on g1, h2, e1,f2, g3, and h4 for one side and a8, b7, d8, c7, b6, and a5. They move either in the ordinary way, one square at a time, or move by jumping their own and their opponents' men, the opposing jumpees (to coin a word) being considered captured, and removed from the board. The player who eliminates all the other's men is the winner. I'm beginning to have a suspicion that my father actually made up this game... |
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Apr-11-11
 | | Phony Benoni: <playground player> Like this? click for larger viewI assume White's legal moves in this position would be e1-d2, f2-e3, g3-f4, h4-g5, and the jumps g1=e3 and h2=f4. Moves like g1-c1 and h2-h6 would not be possible. Looks like the equivalent of Fool's Mate would be 1.g3-f4 b8=d6 2.e1-d2 c7=e5=g3=e1=c3, when White loses three kings in one swell foop. No, I've never heard of this before. |
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Apr-12-11 | | playground player: <Phony Benoni> By George, I think you've got it! As evidence that the game is real, my wife just told me that she used to play Kings on the playground, too, long decades before we ever met. There seems to be nothing about it on the internet, though... so maybe I really am a Grand Master of this game... |
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Apr-12-11
 | | OhioChessFan: I had a long bus ride in grade school, and played many many many games of Kings. That was about 40 years ago and I've never seen mention of the game since. |
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Apr-12-11
 | | Phony Benoni: I'm finding brief descriptions of the game as "Six Corner Kings". One person said they learned it from their grandmother, who learned it as a child in the late nineteenth century. Can Abner Doubleday be far behind? |
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Apr-13-11 | | playground player: <Phony Benoni> I'm tellin' ya, King is a great game--fast and unpredictable. <Ohio Chess Fan> Did you grow up in Ohio? (That would indicate Kings was known nationwide--yes?) What do you suppose happened to this pleasant little game? |
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Apr-13-11
 | | perfidious: David, I went to your collection of games for the 1955 Soviet championship and noticed all those misattributions, none of which were ever put right, despite your efforts. Following in your footsteps, I resubmitted corrections for all the games you listed. Maybe this time it will get done! |
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Apr-13-11
 | | OhioChessFan: <playboy> yes on Ohio. Kings was derailed by high tech. Maybe someone should create an app for it. |
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Apr-13-11
 | | Phony Benoni: <perfidious> Thanks for checking. Every little bit helps. |
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Apr-15-11
 | | Phony Benoni: The Tigers have just called up rookie pitcher Alberto Albuquerque. Surprisingly, he's a right-hander. |
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Apr-15-11 | | Jim Bartle: i look at the records of good pitchers who have records of something like 15-10, and I think "that isn't so good, he should be winning more than that." Then I watch games like Minnesota-Tampa last night and remember how tough it is topile up wins. Carl Pavano leaves the game after 8 leading 2-0, having given up four hits. You'd think that's a pretty sure win, right? Nathan gives up two in the ninth, and bye-bye winning pitcher. And I don't Pavano's situation at that time, but why take him out after eight anyway if he's going so great? I don't see it as a great strategy if the plan is to bring in the closer in any relatively close game, no matter how well the starter is pitching. Twins scored one in the tenth to go ahead, then lost to a two-run homer by Damon in the bottom of the tenth. |
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Apr-15-11 | | playground player: <Jim Bartle> One of the things I detest about contemporary baseball is overmanaging--e.g., bringing in the "closer" when the starting pitcher is pitching a shutout. I love it when games get blown that way. Connie Mack did that to Lefty Grove once, and Grove and Al Simmons almost killed him. |
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Apr-15-11 | | Jim Bartle: There was something else interesting in the bottom of the ninth, with the Twins up 2-0 to start the inning. Interesting to me, at least, as I get tired of listening to the blather from some of the announcers. (Announcers seem always to tell us how a pitch that was hammered was over the middle of the plate, and every pitch a batter whiffs on is a great pitch, though to me the two often look alike. I'll admit that sometimes announcers will say a batter missed a fat pitch.) In any case, the first batter hit a bloop double down the rightfield line that normally would have been caught, except the rightfielder was playing very deep and toward center. The announcers said, "You have to protect against the extra base hit in this situation." It seems to me that's entirely untrue. A single or a double or even a home run is the same in that situation, except for the small advantage of keeping the double play open with just a single. But that run means nothing. The Twins needed to be playing to get the out no matter what, ignoring the chances of a big hit. Once there's a man on base, that changes, of course. |
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Apr-15-11 | | hms123: <PB> Here's a fantastic catch made by a Vanderbilt outfielder the other day: http://vucommodores.cstv.com/sports... |
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Apr-15-11
 | | perfidious: <playground player: <Jim Bartle> bringing in the "closer" when the starting pitcher is pitching a shutout. I love it when games get blown that way. Connie Mack did that to Lefty Grove once, and Grove and Al Simmons almost killed him.> Was this done during Grove's 1931 season, when he went 31-4? I recall Bill James writing about a rookie CF subbing for Max Bishop one game that year, blowing a play during one of Grove's appearances when he had some sick record (18-1?) and hanging a loss on the latter, after which Grove-who was hot-tempered anyway-went apes**t. |
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Apr-16-11
 | | Phony Benoni: The 1931 incident involved the end of Grove's 16-game winning streak, when he lost to the Browns 1-0 when due to a misplay in left field by Jimmy Moore, filling in for Al Simmons. Here's an account from Baseball Digest: http://books.google.com/books?id=LS... Now, the problem with this account is that the game was in the middle of a three-week stretch when Simmons didn't play at all; it wasn't just one day off. Here's the box score, from August 23: http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/... And his Simmons' game log from 1931:
http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/... He didn't play at all from August 15-September 6. That must have been some personal problem. |
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Apr-16-11
 | | perfidious: <hms123: <PB> Here's a fantastic catch made by a Vanderbilt outfielder the other day> Oldie but a goodie from days of yore (check out the play at 5.25):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3Jk... |
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Apr-16-11 | | playground player: My source for that story was Ralph Kiner, just telling the story during a Mets broadcast some years ago. He didn't say what year it was, but <Phony Benoni> probably has it nailed, as usual. |
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