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| Jan-26-07 | | chessmoron: <jess> Which one is better Howard Hawks' Scarface or De Palma's Scarface? I know they are loosely based on the infamous mob, Al Capone and some scenes are alike. |
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| Jan-26-07 | | chessmoron: <Speaking of movies, there's a cool film festival going on over here in Rotterdam at the moment.> And of course the famous Sundance film festival in Utah. |
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| Jan-26-07 | | EmperorAtahualpa: <Which one is better Howard Hawks' Scarface or De Palma's Scarface?> <chessmoron> I'll give my answer too if you don't mind. :) I've seen both, but I would say that even if both movies have similarities, the fact that they are from very different periods makes it impossible to compare between the two... |
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Jan-26-07
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Jan-26-07
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| Jan-26-07 | | EmperorAtahualpa: Does anyone feel like playing a correspondence game with me on GameKnot? I should have time for an extra game... |
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| Jan-26-07 | | themadhair: <I should have time for an extra game...> Is the <OD> game winding down? |
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| Jan-26-07 | | TTLump: <TheAlchemist: Just because Fischer did well against the Dragon, doesn't mean it's been refuted ...> I concur,
<Fischer vs Larsen, 1958> can be very instructive for us I think in a prophylactic sense. They both played solid book up to move 9 (Sicilian Dragon) and then Larsen chose the obscure 9...Nxd4 which does not have very good stats in the CG data base. I think the equally obscure 9... Na5 looks interesting, although with few games in the data-base, it might be risky, the stats are actually better than they appear Opening Explorer , look at the next page and although there are fewer games(20), the stats compare favorably with the main line 9... Bd7. Then again at move 10... Be6? which has been thoroughly refuted since 1958 and not just by Fischer, but we don't have to play that line, 10... Qa5 shows 14 games with stats dead even! Once again, move 11, Larsen chooses the move which is listed as the main line (Qa5), but which has been refuted by the stats and once again there seems to be a viable option (Qd7) although less than a handful of games to choose from. I think we have a lot of potentially robust but unproven variations to choose from in the Dragon. I have had some success with it myself in correspondence chess (albeit VERY limted, just a handful of games). Then I decided to take a long look at the position after 15.Bxd5, the last "book" move of the game. Larsen here plays 15...Rad1, which looks sound on general principles, but he seems to have overlooked what to me is a superior move, 15... Nxd5. The tactical complications of this move are considerable (to me at least), and perhaps that is why larsen avoided it, but it seems to give a slight advantage to Black after the skirmishing is over (minor pieces are all gone and black has a superior pawn structure), then again it is highly likely that I missed some critical move .... |
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| Jan-27-07 | | hitman84: Where is <swapmeet> ? |
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Jan-27-07
 | | TheAlchemist: <Where is <swapmeet> ?> Where is Waldo Serrano? :-) I have no idea, I was wondering that myself. I hope he didn't OD from chess :-)) |
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| Jan-27-07 | | Swapmeet: I'm lurking about...just never really played the sicilan before, so I have no preference on which variation we choose. |
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| Jan-27-07 | | Rocafella: User: GMShulman Keep your eyes pealed <-_-> |
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| Jan-28-07 | | hitman84: = User: Garry Kasprov |
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| Jan-28-07 | | hitman84: <Rocafella>User: Yury Shulman This forum has gotten quite ?! |
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| Jan-28-07 | | Rocafella: <hitman84> lol Yeh I made my user up just to fuel some parranoia. Didn't work of course |
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| Jan-28-07 | | Zebra: <Important deviations we should be prepared for: 3.Bb5, 4.c3, 3.Nc3. Are there any other I forgot to list?> 3.Bc4 is the other main one.
I have been having a few thoughts on these, since our immediate reply to 3.d4 doesn't seem to be taxing people's brains too hard ;) (i) 3.Bb5+ (Moscow) gives us a few dilemmas. ...Nd7 seems the most logical, but it is tricky, and I for one don't know any theory. I have tried it once but got into a very closed and uncomfortable position. If we are going to play it, homework is necessary. ...Bd7 seems the most popular reply, and the only one I have theory on (from Rogozenko). Any thoughts? (ii) 3.c3 Nf6, then either Bd3 (Kopek) or Be2 (Basman). (4.h3 is also playable.) I have been doing a bit of reading up on these, which I will put in a separate post. (iii) 3.Nc3 intending transposition to an Open Sicilian but trying to confuse us. We need to be clear about what Open Sicilian line we want to play. If white seriously means it as an anti-sicilian it is a relatively harmless one. Our main immediate choice is whether to allow the transposition to the Open Sicilian or to block it with ...e5. (iv) 3.Bc4 - an idea of Adams, planning d3 and a closed struggle in the centre. Rogozenko recommends 3 ...Nf6, 4.d3 Nc6, 5.c3 g6. Surprisingly (to my amateur mind) ...e6 does not figure in this, leaving the white bishop free to range on its diagonal. These seem to be the only important ones, but there are also: (v) 3.b3 Rogozenko doesn't think highly of this, but gives 3 ...Nf6, 4.Bb5+ Nbd7!?. (vi) 3.b4 transposes into mainline Wing Gambit, where white virtually has to follow up with Nf3 anyway. I guess we just take it? (vii) 3.g3 seems to transpose with 2.g3, for which black can follow a normal closed Sicilian plan with g6 and Nc6. |
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| Jan-28-07 | | Rocafella: LOL!!! We have a fan club!! Quality |
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| Jan-28-07 | | Open Defence: add me to the fan club.... I DEMAND it!!! |
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| Jan-28-07 | | hitman84: <LOL!!! We have a fan club!! Quality> <Rocafella>
We have a Royal Fan! and I'm sure his whole empire is a fan of our team.
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| Jan-28-07 | | hitman84: Thanks <OD> you can be the cheer leader ;) |
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| Jan-28-07 | | hitman84: <Zebra>I'm uncomfortable facing the Moscow variation from the black side. <(iv) 3.Bc4 - an idea of Adams, planning d3 and a closed struggle in the centre. Rogozenko recommends 3 ...Nf6, 4.d3 Nc6, 5.c3 g6. Surprisingly (to my amateur mind) ...e6 does not figure in this, leaving the white bishop free to range on its diagonal.> We have to be careful in this line. |
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| Jan-28-07 | | hitman84: I prefer this line against 3.Bc4
G Pap vs I Golichenko, 2006 |
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| Jan-28-07 | | Zebra: <hitman> I agree with you. Bc4 is tricky, and I too would be happier with the hedgehog-like formation in the Golichenko game. I don't think many Sicilian players feel great when they see 3.Bb5+. I tend to play Bd7 on the grounds that if white then plays d4, an open sicilian with light-squared bishops off is often good for black. But i doubt if these opponents will be so obliging. |
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| Jan-28-07 | | hitman84: I usually play Nd7 against the Rossolimo. The Bd7 line is drawish. I'll check the database and let you know.. |
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| Jan-28-07 | | Zebra: I prefer Nd7 too, it's just that I don't know the theory and there are several traps in it. If you or others in the team know the theory for it, it will have my vote. |
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