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| Mar-22-07 | | brankat: <The Team & TheAlchemist> I have given some more thought to the current situation with the game. Today is exactly 2 months since the game started, no doubt the fatigue thing has crept in. It was more or less inevitable. Prevoius couple of Consultation games I participated in, and/or organized lasted, I think, 65 days (58 moves/28 moves). This one will certainly out-do the past ones. Frankly, I didn't really expect it. On the contrary, I had thought that the game would be over within 2 months, or so. I do not visit <MFO> site, neither would I have an access to their consultation forum, but I'm pretty sure their team must be in the same situation as Yours. I would suggest, if I may, 1 WEEK break for all. Well deserved, too. Let's all "recover", re-group, re-charge! And, if need be, make additions to the teams. You have just recieved one offer already, so, that should not be a problem. The game is now entering its "critical" phase. The whole idea of this type of a game was supposed to be a memorable excercise in fun, teams' bonding, learning experience and competitiveness. There is no point in turning it into a dull drudgery, to say the least. Please, let me know what You think about the postponement idea. Let me know by sometime tomorrow (Thursday), if You can. Should You guys agree, I would then contact <Akavall> with the suggestion/request. So, the next "due time" could be set at something like < 3:00 PM, Thursday, March/28/2007 >. Thank You all. |
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 | | TheAlchemist: <brankat> I would be ok with a break if both teams get it. <mckmac> Personally I would be ok, but we need others' opinions as well. <TEAM> Please post your thoughts on both matters, if you can. |
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| Mar-22-07 | | hitman84: I see that <Queen Jess> has withdrawn :(
I vote for a break.
<mckmac>You're most welcome to join our team, mate! |
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| Mar-22-07 | | Marco65: <Jessica> You are making the most reasonable choice. So, you were studying chess and playing university :-) Best wishes with your exams. Of course, we all will miss you, you had become the "engine" of the whole team! But don't let our feelings distract from your main goal. As an advice for the future, take chess much less seriously, and you'll find that it can still coexist with other activities. And be more realistic about the time you have. I (almost) stopped purchasing a chess book a month when I realized I can hardly read one a year. Take care of yourself! |
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| Mar-22-07 | | Marco65: <TheAlchemist> A week rest is not bad actually, but I let the others decide. Selfishly speaking, I have a tournament this weekend so at last I can do some preparation, that I had neglected for the analysis of this game so far. But if it's agreed I think nobody should post analysis until 48 hours before the deadline, otherwise our opponents might claim we had an advantage because it's out turn to move. No idea if there was a waiting list to enter the team, if not of course welcome to mckmac! |
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| | TheAlchemist: <No idea if there was a waiting list to enter the team, if not of course welcome to mckmac!> There was actually <Elixir of Life>, but he has already posted some computer analysis on <achieve>'s forum, so that actually disqualifies him, I think. <But if it's agreed I think nobody should post analysis until 48 hours before the deadline, otherwise our opponents might claim we had an advantage because it's out turn to move.> I agree, so we'll see each other again for serious work (...) on the 26th :-) <mckmac> I think I can now safely welcome you aboard, others will probably agree too. I hope you realize we're a serious team and have very rigorous rules which have to be followed strictly. Kidding, of course. I hope you will enjoy yourself here. You may want to read the last few pages of analysis just to get up to speed with what we've been doing recently. |
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| Mar-22-07 | | EmperorAtahualpa: Hi guys! Wow, I see I'm not the only one who's busy...sorry to see this. It's of course a pity for this consultation game and I do apologize for my little input in it so far. I was away for the weekend and this week has been busy for me so far. Also I have obligations elsewhere (GameKnot.com, Hattrick.org) that take a considerable amount of time. As far as I'm concerned, I do NOT wish to quit this team or the game! It was fun for me, but as I said, sometimes it's a little too much for me. My proposal: why don't we extend the time-frame? Perhaps 3 or 4 days per move will be more successful? |
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| Mar-22-07 | | Marco65: <Perhaps 3 or 4 days per move will be more successful?> I don't think so. We will just lose commitment. And I don't like so. I prefer to lose rather than still playing the same game in 2008. The only formula I would change for a future consul game is the number of participants. I remember when I first saw your consultation game, <Emperor>. It seemed more lively than this one, everybody was very active, and it couldn't be otherwise, there were 4 if I remember. When you are 10, people tend to think it's not a big issue if someone is missing for days. We had a great moment when discussing 12...O-O, I hope it can return like that after the pause. |
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| Mar-22-07 | | Zebra: Just surfaced. A week's break would certainly suit me, as I am unable to do much anyway at the moment, and was considering standing down if the replacement problem could be solved. In the meantime, fond farewells to <Jess> - good luck with the studying - and welcome to <mckmac>. |
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| Mar-22-07 | | brankat: <The Team>
Here is the message I recived from <Akavall> via e-mail, today, March,22. <Hello Branko,
<"Two players have left the team, another 3 have not been around for some 4-5 days."> So they have about 5 active players? That's about the shape we are in, and I thought we were doing better than I expected :) Also, I am not a big fan of taking a break, since some people might lose interest during that week. If there is fatigue issue, I would prefer more timo-outs or increasing time to make a move from 2 to 3 days, for example. This is my personal opinion, I don't know how rest of MFO team members feel about it. Let me know what CG.com team thinks and I will ask my team.> I will now inform <Akavall> that CG.com team wishes to take a break. If he replies with the acceptance then, we can resume on Thursday, Mar/28/2007. Although I'm not playing, I do believe that 1 week off is a better idea than extending time controls to 3-4days. The game would not end by Fall, interest/enthusiasm would be lost, and players would be walking out like through a revolving door. It is very likely that after one week everyone will feel refreshed, rested, and ready to continue with renewed energy. But, of course it is up to the 2 teams to decide.
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| Mar-22-07 | | mckmac: Greetings <The Alchemist> and esteemed members of the <C.G.COM> team.I have had a long look at the game and I really like white here. Hold on..you guys are black...we're playing Black?..I've just had a quick peek at the position and believe that black stands better here, clearly. Greater detail to follow.Thanks for the welcome!, I am looking forward to playing, and will try to check in regularly for the decision on the time-out etc...
now, I believe <The Alchemist> said that there's a few pages of analysis to read through and I'm headed that way..catch you later. |
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| Mar-22-07 | | brankat: <mckmac> I hope You are not reading the analysis in <achieve>'s forum :-) Although it is not sizable, it is still a significant one, done by <Elixir of Life>'s "Rybka 2.3". The participants in the game should NOT be visiting <achieve>'s forum for the duration of the game. To familiarize Yourself with the Rules of this contest, I suggest to check out my Profile. It's all in there. |
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| Mar-22-07 | | brankat: <mckmac> An idea. Since You are a premium member, perhaps You should open Your forum. Among other things, it would be easier for CG.com members to get in touch with You. |
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| Mar-23-07 | | brankat: <The Team> It is now about 2:00 am EST, 7:00 am Europe (CET). <Akavall> has just notified me that the MFO site has been down for a while, and it just came back up again. So their team will need some more time to consult about the break. |
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| Mar-23-07 | | Marco65: <brankat> It also seems that the number of allowed replacement was inadequate. A limit must exist, people participating must plan some commitment. But why not extending it a little, if both teams agree? |
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| Mar-23-07 | | dakgootje: Sorry I've been this often away lately. Was quite busy and it doesn't seem like I was the only one... Any news on the proposed break? |
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| Mar-23-07 | | Zebra: <Marco> That seems a good suggestion to me. |
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| Mar-23-07 | | brankat: <Marco65> <Zebra> The message I had posted for Akavall 24 hours ago: <<Akavall> The CG Team has found one replacement. <mckmac> for <jessicafischerqueen>. This is their SECOND substitution already.Your team is still entitled to 2 subs.
Later, should there be a need, and if both teams agree, we can expand "the 2 subs rule" to more..> > It is a good idea to visit my forum to check on the latest news regarding the Consultation game :-) Btw, <Akavall> has not responded yet. Will keep You posted. |
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| Mar-23-07 | | Zebra: <brankat> Thanks, I will keep in touch. PS - nice variation in your game against <achieve>. Of course I won't comment on the game ;) |
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| Mar-23-07 | | TTLump: I see a lot has happened since the last time I checked in. I am really sad to see <Jess> leaving us, but I understand her decision. I apologize for not being around more. I am currently on vacation spending some time with my daughter and my new grand-son. The one week time out would be very welcome to me. As far as changing to 3 or 4 days per move, I am OK with that as well. I will be on vacation until April 3, but will try to check in again before the next move is due. Just in case I don't make it back by then, my vote is 18...Qa5. I believe this is one of the positions that I had analyzed pretty thoroughly in an earlier discussion. |
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| Mar-23-07 | | Swapmeet: <all>
Sorry I have not been contributing much as of late. I informed <brankat> a few days ago that I am in the middle of an unexpected move, and have been stretched a bit thin. My oringinal intention was to drop out, but I have reconsidered and will dedicate whatever time I can to the remainder of the game. I'm not sure we really need to take a week off, as I tend to agree that this will only cause interest to wane. So what are we looking at here, Qa5? |
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| Mar-24-07 | | brankat: <The Team> Just recieved a message from <Akavall>: <brankat>
<<<<<ATTENTION>>>>>> MFO team <accepts> the 1 week break suggestion.>> He is still to let me know whether it is Wednesday or Thursday (28th or 29th, March), 3:00 PM EST. I suggested Wednesday. because we have already had 2 days off. <Swapmeet> Thank You for re-considering and staying with the team. I've been hoping You would. The team has voted for a week off, so it is now less 5 days to go. MFO team was in a pretty bad shape, too. Almost a half of the team gone. So almost everyone needed a break. Of course, You just had one :-) |
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| Mar-24-07 | | brankat: <The Team> The new "Next move due by..." is set for 3:00 PM, Wednesday, March 28/2007. |
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| Mar-26-07 | | brankat: <mckmac> Since You are not used to visiting Your own forum, I'll post this here: YOUR FORUM HAS BEEN OFFICIALLY OPENED! |
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| Mar-26-07 | | Marco65: <TheAlchemist> I think we can resume the analysis today at 4pm EDT, is that ok? Is the team ready? |
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