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| Aug-31-11 | | technical draw: <Is that a French roll or an Egg roll?> Ugh! And so close to funniest kibitzer time. You just shot yourself in the foot with that one <WannaBe>. Thanks, it will be smooth sailing from now on. |
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| Aug-31-11 | | angslo: <I sincerely hope that helps clarify how we enforce our rules.
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not entirely. however, your post did reflect your good intentions. thnks for your time :) |
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| Aug-31-11 | | crawfb5: <Ugh! And so close to funniest kibitzer time. You just shot yourself in the foot with that one <WannaBe>.> Yes, but it was his lucky foot. |
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| Sep-01-11 | | Ulhumbrus: <chessgames.com> Here is a quote from the chess base website on the Moscow rapid tournament for which there will be a press conference on the second of September in Moscow : <Players will address a press conference before the opening ceremony on Friday, September 2 and world number one Magnus Carlsen will be awarded the Chess Oscar 2010 by the Russian Chess Federation. The tournament format is a six-round double round robin with 25 minutes + 10 seconds per move for each player from the start of the game. The first three rounds will be played on September 2 and the remaining three on the next day. But there is a curious twist: the clock will be paused in the middle and each player will offer his or her thoughts on the position while the other listens to music to tune out the commentary. This is the first time such an experiment is being conducted at this level. Quite a bold proposition from the organisers, and one that will certainly make the event more entertaining for spectators and challenging for the players!> Do you plan to broadcast the games and the commentary on this website? |
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Sep-01-11
 | | chessgames.com: <twinlark> <Could you tell me whether you'd be willing to include the games of all the previous World Team Championships 1985 when the first one was played in Lucerne?> Absolutely. In fact, I didn't know we were missing those. A quick check: I grabbed the PGN file for 1985 and run it, hundreds of duplicates were detected and it finally stopped on this one: Xu Jun vs Pinter, 1985
OK, cool, we filled in a gap. We have to be careful though--quite often, when a file we already produces a "new discovery" like that, it turns out to be nothing more than a game we actually have with a different move order or a few extra moves tacked on instead. Sure enough, the discovery we just made is nearly identical to Xu Jun vs Pinter, 1985
Old wine in a new skin. So now we have to delete one or the other, or maybe merge them. We check over the header information and keep the one we think is best (the one from Olimpbase). Of course that doesn't always happen. Next game, we picked up Yusupov vs Li Zunian, 1985 which was brand new to us and missing. Anyhow, that's pretty much illustrative of what happens when we download masses of PGN data like that. We add new games, we fix problems with old games, we end up with move-order mysteries, and we slowly improve the database. We wish it was as easy as pushing a button and slurping all of those PGN files into the database, but it's a painstaking process. Our most time effective work I believe is spent in developing methods where users can help us normalize the database themselves, up to and including the addition of new games. <While I'm on a roll, each year of the tournaments page is getting longer, and sometimes after using a find function (from the browser's "edit" menu) to locate a tournament, it's impossible to see which year it's in, without scrolling up or down to the next year heading. Would it be possible to have some sort of marker or whatever that makes it clear what year we're looking at?> The New Games page is an abomination, it worked in 2005 when we had 3 years of data but at this point it's ridiculous. I don't even like linking to it, I hope people can do without it until something better is developed. I'm sorry about that. As you intimate, the overall plan is to normalize the tournaments just as we normalized the players. It's a dauntingly enormous task, but we think the best solution is to tackle it "one at a time". Yes, we're going to go backwards and scoop up the ones we're missing, and our History of the World Chess Championship is the first major step in that direction. How the final product will be presented, searchable, etc. is still up the in the air. Worry about getting the data schema correct, and then everything else will take care of itself. |
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Sep-01-11
 | | chessgames.com: <Ulhumbrus> That's positively fascinating. Chessgames doesn't have the facilities to rebroadcast audiovisual streams but we'd be excited to link to whatever resources are online related to this event. We even have an idea to link individual games to specific commentary, if the external site allows for that sort of thing. We'll make a page for the tournament and see what develops: Botvinnik Memorial Rapid (2011). |
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| Sep-01-11 | | dakgootje: <a curious twist: the clock will be paused in the middle and each player will offer his or her thoughts on the position while the other listens to music to tune out the commentary.> That is a terrific idea!
Only downside is that watching those games live becomes much more addictive ;) |
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| Sep-01-11 | | boz: <But there is a curious twist: the clock will be paused in the middle and each player will offer his or her thoughts on the position while the other listens to music to tune out the commentary. This is the first time such an experiment is being conducted at this level. Quite a bold proposition from the organisers, and one that will certainly make the event more entertaining for spectators and challenging for the players!> Expect a lot of noncommittal platitudes. Nobody is going to want to make a fool of himself. |
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| Sep-01-11 | | Blunderdome: The World Cup tiebreak games have been incorrectly classified as classical. The first two are rapid, the next two 10 min + 10 sec (not sure what we call this), the next two blitz, then Armageddon. By the way, when several games have been misclassified, would you prefer a single correction slip which mentions the others games, or a post here? |
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| Sep-01-11 | | I play the Fred: <chessgames.com>: Could you please address something here? J Wheeler vs A J Goldsby, 2001 <LIFE Master AJ>: <ProjectR> Yet another lie. You ARE a sock-puppet, <CG said as much in an e-mail just a few days ago.<<<<>>>>> <TheFocus>: So am I to believe that a member can just e-mail the Admins and get information about another user when privacy is guaranteed here? <TheFocus> makes a good point in his question. Is <AJ>'s account of these events accurate? I highly doubt it, but all the same I'd like to hear <officially> that this didn't transpire. |
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| Sep-01-11 | | ProjectR: And as the user in question i second <i play the fred's> request.
Im just here for chess,im not a "sock puke it" of anyone,as <Life Master AJ> insinuates (in fact blatantly accuses!) im my own person,my own handle,and its now becoming tiresome..If you were to read the page <i play the fred> alludes to,you'll see for yourselves everyone is now sick and tired of this man <life Master AJ>..
I dont wish to trouble you,but i do request to see the email in question if its concerning me ? Of course i dont believe there is an "email" but if it keep the life Master quiet,and he apologies its worth it.
Thank you,and all the best.
<projectR>
Not <Lennonfan> or anyone else for that matter !! |
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Sep-01-11
 | | chessgames.com: <Blunderdome> If the situation is an incorrect gametype of a tournament in *progress*, just wait. We know that the x.3 and x.4 (etc) rounds from the World Cup come into our system as classical. We've already set some to rapid/blitz, but then more flooded in. We'll fix them with wildcard searches, and in the end everything will be OK. I hope it's no big inconvenience that they are temporarily misclassified as classical. If the situation is that a *past* tournament has incorrect game types, then you can either go game-by-game or just describe the overall situation, depending on how many games we are talking about. If it's just 2 or 3 rapid tiebreaks for a big tournament, separate slips would probably be best. Especially for armageddon games, we prefer if you name the specific game so there can be no confusion over such an important detail. But for an event like the World Cup, there are just too many games, so if you could submit a single example correction with a note like this: <For this tournament, any round number of x.4 or x.5 is rapid, x.6 through x.9 are blitz, and x.10 is armageddon.> I hope that's clear enough, and thanks for helping. |
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Sep-01-11
 | | chessgames.com: <I play the Fred> <TheFocus> <So am I to believe that a member can just e-mail the Admins and get information about another user when privacy is guaranteed here?> No. Virtually everything about your account that isn't clearly public information is treated in strict confidence. This especially is true for email addresses, IP addresses, and even the country of origin. It is our policy specifically to neither confirm nor deny that user X is a sockpuppet of user Y. What AJ means by "CG said as much" is unclear to us. |
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| Sep-01-11 | | Blunderdome: <CG> Makes sense. It's no problem at all if they can't be fixed until after the tournament, just wanted to make sure you knew. |
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| Sep-01-11 | | twinlark: <ceegee>
<The New Games page is an abomination, it worked in 2005 when we had 3 years of data but at this point it's ridiculous. I don't even like linking to it, I hope people can do without it until something better is developed. I'm sorry about that.> It's not that bad! It's an important research tool for bio writers. All it really needs to improve it markedly is: - sort out the years into discrete groups
- add the year to the date information attached to the link to each tournament and we're cooking with gas until you come up with something better. |
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| Sep-02-11 | | twinlark: Here's a query from Biographer Bistro, and <Antiochus> posted this useful looking link at the Flohr player page: http://www.gambitchess.com/antiques... |
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Sep-02-11
 | | chessgames.com: Updated help file: <One way to make your request heard is to post it to The Biographer Bistro>. Reads much better, thanks!
http://www.gambitchess.com/antiques... Looks very interesting indeed, I would love to see what those "dossiers" are. I imagine mini-biographies like we offer; they might be a source of ideas. |
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| Sep-02-11 | | twinlark: <they might be a source of ideas.> and quite possibly games. |
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Sep-04-11
 | | Peligroso Patzer: The opening of the following game played today is currently completely misclassified as it appears in the database (as a Giuoco Piano; it was a QID): A Moiseenko vs Navara, 2011 |
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Sep-05-11
 | | OhioChessFan: Could you create a fake game for The Biographer Bistro and Santa Claus? It should be easy to type a name in the Player's search function and pull them up, but that doesn't work now. |
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Sep-05-11
 | | SwitchingQuylthulg: Santa already shows up in the EZ search (just search "Santa Claus" and you'll get him). The Biographer Bistro isn't a player (in the same way the Kibitzer's Café and the ChessBookie Game aren't), so there's no way it will ever show up in a player or game search. Anyway, there are about half a billion easy ways to find the Bistro - the link on the home page, for example, and of course you can add it to your custom menu (though it would be nice if CG included it in the regular menu!) |
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Sep-05-11
 | | Annie K.: <Switch> it's already in the regular menu too. :) What I'd like to suggest, though, is that both the Cafe and the Bistro show up in the recent kibitzing page of the chessforums, as well as the "main" one (where they already appear), for better exposure and context. |
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Sep-05-11
 | | SwitchingQuylthulg: <Annie> No it isn't :) • hotel lobby
• learn things you already knew
• regular account mode
• dirty sock mode
• stuff admins thought would get asked a lot
• still not TD's forum
• get things done more sensibly
• join the cult
• speakeasy
• latest flame wars
• silly talks
• old games
• forgotten attic
• a short history of toilets
• a long history of openings
• Play Like Toga!™
• someone else's favorite games
• lose your virtual money
• spoil a well-played game
• empty space where the Bistro should be
• FreeArcade Chess
• your private details are important to us
• fold your hands together and hope |
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Sep-05-11
 | | Annie K.: <Switch> ROFL!! - oh, *that* menu! OK, it's not there. :D I meant it's already in the top menu as a selectable option, so one doesn't have to make a custom link for it in the Extras box. Though that's a cult privilege, of course. ;) |
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| Sep-06-11 | | Albertan: Hi, I believe there is an error in relation to this game: Karpov vs Yusupov, 1988 In my copy of Chess Informant this game I am reporting to you is given the ECO code D36 not D31 as you have listed in the Chessgames.com page for this game. I checked the ECO code using the program in Chessbase 11 and the program also gives the game and ECO code D36. Thanks for all of your great work for the members and full members! |
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