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Dec-16-20
 | | perfidious: <Refused>, I did qualify it; as you say, come to the Xenophobe in Chief's conduct in office, and as a human being, we are faced with a veritable cornucopia, an embarras de richesse, when skewering him and his innumerable misdeeds. |
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Dec-16-20
 | | perfidious: <chancho>, one legal scholar appears to believe there is another string to the Tinpot Despot's bow: <With the Supreme Court's rejection of the Texas lawsuit, it's over, right?Not so fast. Trump has one more card to play, depending on whether Republicans in Congress are more loyal to Trump than they are to the country. After the electoral votes are cast, they have to be accepted by Congress. By law, the House and Senate meet together on Jan. 6, and if any state's ballots are challenged by one member of the House and Senate, the chambers must meet separately and vote on the challenge. Given that 126 members of Congress signed on to the Texas lawsuit to overturn Joe Biden's victory, and that many GOP senators have not accepted Biden as the president-elect, some states are going to be challenged. Here's where things get interesting. The controlling federal law, the Electoral Count Act (ECA), is more than 100 years old, opaque and has never been fully used. It may not even be constitutional. The Congress over which the old vice president will be presiding will be the new one, sworn in Jan. 3. The new House, narrowly Democratic, will vote down any challenge. But the Senate? Something very different could occur. Let's suppose that the balance is 52-48 Republican. But Sens. Mitt Romney (R-Utah), Ben Sasse (R-Neb.), Susan Collins (R-Maine) and Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) have said that Biden won, so Biden wins in a close vote, right? And even if the Senate votes to uphold the challenges, the ECA has a tiebreaking provision - any slate of electors that is certified by their state's governor will be accepted if the House and Senate disagree. Biden, again, would win. Thus, The New York Times assumes that Republican challenges to the electoral votes would be futile. But what if the Senate never finishes voting? The ECA limits each challenge to no more than two hours of debate. Four states were questioned in the lawsuit (Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania), making four challenges and eight hours of delay. Even in the Senate, eight hours of debate can't last more than a couple days, can it? The law envisions the ability to challenge electoral votes collectively or individually. Surely a crafty legal mind like Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) would challenge, not each state, but each electoral vote separately. And as a delaying tactic, why wouldn't the Trumpers challenge every Biden state, even Delaware? The goal is not to win, the goal is to delay, to prevent the "tiebreaking" provision of the ECA from happening. Remember, the presiding officer under the ECA is Mike Pence. He can be expected to interpret the rules in a way highly favorable to the Republicans. He can help the GOP delay any resolution until about Jan. 18. Now comes the endgame maneuver. The Constitution specifies that if there is no Electoral College winner, the Senate chooses the vice president and the House picks the president. The Senate, claiming that there is no Electoral College result, picks Pence. Overturning an election? Why not? The raw hatred and polarization in American politics have shown that no precedent or law is safe. Ask Merrick Garland....> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli... To be continued.... |
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Dec-16-20
 | | perfidious: The rest of the story:
<....And it won't be a Biden-Pence administration. The Democratic majority in the House can't pick Biden because when picking a president, the House votes by state delegation, and the Republicans control more House delegations.The House Democrats will never let that vote happen. Which means we won't have a president. If we don't have a president by noon on Jan. 20, the law of presidential succession comes into play. But who is next in line of succession? Republicans will claim that the presidency is empty, but the Senate did its job and picked Pence as vice president. The Democrats will say the whole process was illegal and unconstitutional, and that the next in line is therefore the House Speaker, presumably Nancy Pelosi. Stalemate. An empty presidency at noon on Jan. 20, with Trump tweeting that it should remain his, Democrats saying Pelosi or Biden and some Republicans secretly hoping it's Pence. And if you're thinking that the Supreme Court would save Biden, think again. It would probably rule the question to be a political one, and therefore nonjusticiable. There isn't a clear constitutional principle or law that the court could apply. Can anything be done to prevent this? Nothing can stop the delay. But the final maneuver of picking Pence by the Senate can be stopped in two ways. First, a few honest Republican senators could vote for Vice President-elect Kamala Harris, since her ticket actually won. That would almost surely mean the end of their political career. Failing that, Democratic senators would have to deny the Senate a quorum, which would mean neither chamber would have picked a winner. Under the 12th Amendment, two-thirds of all senators must be present. If 34 Democrats leave the chamber, they can stop Pence's selection. If they do, then all the GOP delay would have led to replacing Biden with ... President Nancy Pelosi. Of course, if the GOP really wanted to move America toward banana republic territory, the rules allow the sergeant-at-arms to arrest and drag senators back to the chamber to make a quorum. It's impossible to say if they'd go that far, or if it would succeed. But what we can say is that this isn't over yet. Most likely, Biden is our next president, but we could be in for a very rough ride between now and Jan. 20.> |
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Dec-17-20
 | | perfidious: <'We're going very substantially down, not up, when you have 15 people and the 15 within a couple days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done'.> Yeah, it's been plain sailing for all those who have been claimed by this pandemic which <has not happened>. |
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Dec-19-20
 | | perfidious: <'He didn't win the Election. He lost all 6 Swing States, by a lot. They then dumped hundreds of thousands of votes in each one, and got caught. Now Republican politicians have to fight so that their great victory is not stolen. Don't be weak fools.'> The 'weak fool' is the one maundering about his 'landslide victory'. |
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| Dec-20-20 | | rbhgroup: wow... I see the "hate-fest" is rolling right along here.. does Trump pay any of you rent? seems like he lives in your heads.. well, Merry Christmas, everybody! |
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Dec-20-20
 | | saffuna: See you on January 20. |
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Dec-21-20
 | | perfidious: Piece in <The Atlantic>: <Trump Is Losing His MindDonald Trump’s descent into madness continues.
The latest manifestation of this is a report in The New York Times that the president is weighing appointing the conspiracy theorist Sidney Powell, who for a time worked on his legal team, to be special counsel to investigate imaginary claims of voter fraud. As if that were not enough, we also learned that former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, who was pardoned by the president after pleading guilty to lying to the FBI, attended the Friday meeting. Earlier in the week, Flynn, a retired lieutenant general, floated the idea (which he had promoted before) that the president impose martial law and deploy the military to “rerun” the election in several closely contested states that voted against Trump. It appears that Flynn wants to turn them into literal battleground states. None of this should come as a surprise. Some of us said, even before he became president, that Donald Trump’s Rosetta Stone, the key to deciphering him, was his psychology—his disordered personality, his emotional and mental instability, and his sociopathic tendencies. It was the main reason, though hardly the only reason, I refused to vote for him in 2016 or in 2020, despite having worked in the three previous Republican administrations. Nothing that Trump has done over the past four years has caused me to rethink my assessment, and a great deal has happened to confirm it. Given Trump’s psychological profile, it was inevitable that when he felt the walls of reality close in on him—in 2020, it was the pandemic, the cratering economy, and his election defeat—he would detach himself even further from reality. It was predictable that the president would assert even more bizarre conspiracy theories. That he would become more enraged and embittered, more desperate and despondent, more consumed by his grievances. That he would go against past supplicants, like Attorney General Bill Barr and Georgia Governor Brian Kemp, and become more aggressive toward his perceived enemies. That his wits would begin to turn, in the words of King Lear. That he would begin to lose his mind. So he has. And, as a result, President Trump has become even more destabilizing and dangerous. “I’ve been covering Donald Trump for a while,” Jonathan Swan of Axios tweeted. “I can’t recall hearing more intense concern from senior officials who are actually Trump people. The Sidney Powell/Michael Flynn ideas are finding an enthusiastic audience at the top.” Even amid the chaos, it’s worth taking a step back to think about where we are: An American president, unwilling to concede his defeat by 7 million popular votes and 74 Electoral College votes, is still trying to steal the election. It has become his obsession. In the process, Trump has in too many cases turned his party into an instrument of illiberalism and nihilism. Here are just a couple of data points to underscore that claim: 18 attorneys general and more than half the Republicans in the House supported a seditious abuse of the judicial process. And it’s not only, or even mainly, elected officials. The Republican Party’s base has often followed Trump into the twilight zone, with a sizable majority of them affirming that Joe Biden won the election based on fraud and many of them turning against medical science in the face of a surging pandemic. COVID-19 is now killing Americans at the rate of about one per minute, but the president is “just done with COVID,” a source identified as one of Trump’s closest advisers told The Washington Post. “I think he put it on a timetable and he’s done with COVID ... It just exceeded the amount of time he gave it.” This is where Trump’s crippling psychological condition—his complete inability to face unpleasant facts, his toxic narcissism, and his utter lack of empathy—became lethal. Trump’s negligence turned what would have been a difficult winter into a dark one. If any of his predecessors—Barack Obama, George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George H. W. Bush, and Ronald Reagan, to go back just 40 years—had been president during this pandemic, tens of thousands of American lives would almost surely have been saved....> More ta follow.... |
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Dec-21-20
 | | perfidious: Le tableau, part deux:
<....“My concern was, in the worst part of the battle, the general was missing in action,” said Maryland Governor Larry Hogan, one of the very few Republicans to speak truth in the Trump era.In 30 days, Donald Trump will leave the presidency, with his efforts to mount a coup having failed. The encouraging news is that it never really had a chance of succeeding. Our institutions, especially the courts, will have passed a stress test, not the most difficult ever but difficult enough, and unlike any in our history. Some local officials exhibited profiles in courage, doing the right thing in the face of threats and pressure from their party. And a preponderance of the American public, having lived through the past four years, deserves credit for canceling this presidential freak show rather than renewing it. The “exhausted majority” wasn’t too exhausted to get out and vote, even in a pandemic. But the Trump presidency will leave gaping wounds nearly everywhere, and ruination in some places. Truth as a concept has been battered from the highest office in the land on an almost hourly basis. The Republican Party has been radicalized, with countless Republican lawmakers and other prominent figures within the party having revealed themselves to be moral cowards, even, and in some ways especially, after Trump was defeated. During the Trump presidency, they were so afraid of getting crosswise with him and his supporters that they failed the Solzhenitsyn test: “The simple act of an ordinary brave man is not to participate in lies, not to support false actions! His rule: Let that come into the world, let it even reign supreme—only not through me.” During the past four years, the right-wing ecosystem became more and more rabid. Many prominent evangelical supporters of the president are either obsequious, like Franklin Graham, or delusional, like Eric Metaxas, and they now peddle their delusions as being written by God. QAnon and the Proud Boys, Newsmax and One America News, Alex Jones and Tucker Carlson—all have been emboldened. These worrisome trends began before Trump ran for office, and they won’t disappear after he leaves the presidency. Those who hope for a quick snapback will be disappointed. Still, having Trump out of office has to help. He’s going to find out that there’s no comparable bully pulpit. And the media, if they are wise, will cut off his oxygen, which is attention. They had no choice but to cover Trump’s provocations when he was president; when he’s an ex-president, that will change. For the foreseeable future, journalists will rightly focus on the pandemic. But once that is contained and defeated, it will be time to go back to focusing more attention on things like the Paris accord and the carbon tax; the earned-income tax credit and infrastructure; entitlement reform and monetary policy; charter schools and campus speech codes; legal immigration, asylum, assimilation, and social mobility. There is also an opportunity, with Trump a former president, for the Republican Party to once again become the home of sane conservatism. Whether that happens or not is an open question. But it’s something many of us are willing to work for, and that even progressives should hope for. Beyond that, and more fundamental than that, we have to remind ourselves that we are not powerless to shape the future; that much of what has been broken can be repaired; that though we are many, we can be one; and that fatalism and cynicism are unwarranted and corrosive. There’s a lovely line in William Wordsworth’s poem “The Prelude”: “What we have loved, Others will love, and we will teach them how.” There are still things worthy of our love. Honor, decency, courage, beauty, and truth. Tenderness, human empathy, and a sense of duty. A good society. And a commitment to human dignity. We need to teach others—in our individual relationships, in our classrooms and communities, in our book clubs and Bible studies, and in innumerable other settings—why those things are worthy of their attention, their loyalty, their love. One person doing it won’t make much of a difference; a lot of people doing it will create a culture. Maybe we understand better than we did five years ago why these things are essential to our lives, and why when we neglect them or elect leaders who ridicule and subvert them, life becomes nasty, brutish, and generally unpleasant. Just after noon on January 20, a new and necessary chapter will begin in the American story. Joe Biden will certainly play a role in shaping how that story turns out—but so will you and I. Ours is a good and estimable republic, if we can keep it.> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opin... |
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Dec-21-20
 | | chancho: <Garry Kasparov
@Kasparov63
China is gaining confidence to be more aggressive from watching the feeble Western reaction to Putin's moves. From assassinations to hacking to invading his neighbors. Hong Kong is falling and Taiwan could be the next Ukraine-like target.>Trumpilstiltskin is Putin's doormat. |
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Dec-21-20
 | | perfidious: <'We fell in love!'> Credulous bumpkin. |
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| Dec-22-20 | | Refused: Yeah, but Gary <<Marco Rubio is our only hope> <Romney will win the popular vote>> Kasparov should really put a sock in it. He was a genius at the chess board, but chess and politics are two very different things, and regarding the latter he is a moron. China is for most parts playing a long game. While they didn't enjoy the orange ones erratic nature, they pretty much liked the US abandoning its leading role on the world stage and stepping in to fill the void. Ah look at the African continent is way more illuminating of what they are doing, and how they are going about it. They increased their foreing aid spending, and opened up business opportunities there (likesay lucrative infrastructure deals). Hong Kong was a special case, which basically is a part of China (nobody is disputing that). So there they used brute force to bring it to heel. It's unlikely they'll take miilitary action against Taiwan.
They'll happily join organizations the US abandons and grow influence there. |
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Dec-22-20
 | | chancho: The Clown from Queens, classless to the very end. https://www.nationalreview.com/vide... |
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Dec-22-20
 | | perfidious: The Xenophobe in Chief continuing to go off the rails: <"Trump is turning on Pence" as his anger over his election loss grows: reportPresident Donald Trump has turned on everyone -- including Vice President Mike Pence and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell -- as he continues trying to overturn his election loss to Joe Biden. The president has been meeting with conspiracy theorists and other fringe characters in the Oval Office to discuss ways to override the will of the voters and the U.S. Constitution, and Axios co-founder Mike Allen reported that Trump has grown paranoid about his own vice president and the Republican majority leader. "We have late reporting out of the White House last night that President Trump now is turning on Vice President Pence, on Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, on the White House counsel [Pat Cipollone] -- anyone who doesn't want to go out and impound voting machines is now suddenly considered by the president to be weak," Allen told MSNBC's "Way Too Early." So one example of this, the Lincoln Project which always seems to get inside the president's head, ran an ad saying that Vice President Pence was turning on Trump, and sources tell Jonathan Swan that this clearly stuck in the president's head. He's starting to doubt even Mike Pence." Axios reported Monday night that Trump was trying to set fellow Republicans against McConnell, who the president insisted was indebted to him for his re-election in Kentucky. "He had his personal assistant last night send around to Republican lawmakers a [Power Point] slide arguing that Senate Majority Mitch McConnell was, quote, 'First off the ship,' and Trump taking credit for McConnell's win in Kentucky," Allen said. "Of course, the president had nothing to do with that. If anything, the president created headwinds because McConnell won and Trump didn't."> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli... |
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Dec-22-20
 | | saffuna: Trump can't do anything to Pence or McConnell, except maybe keep them out of meetings. |
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Dec-22-20
 | | perfidious: Which would, of course, be consistent with his policy of isolating himself from all except those willing to play sycophant to the full during his final days. |
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| Dec-23-20 | | morfishine: <perfidious> I hope you enjoy a nice Holiday Season! |
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Dec-23-20
 | | perfidious: <morf>, same to you, sir! |
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Dec-23-20
 | | moronovich: I wish you A Merry Christmas and all the best hopes for the New Year ! |
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Dec-23-20
 | | perfidious: Likewise, <moronovich>! May we all enjoy a year free of what has gone in 2020. |
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Dec-23-20
 | | moronovich: And I´ll second that.
Historically theese pandemics tend to leave as suddenly as they have appeared. |
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Dec-23-20
 | | perfidious: That outcome would be welcome indeed. |
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| Dec-23-20 | | Refused: <saffuna: Trump can't do anything to Pence or McConnell, except maybe keep them out of meetings.> Of course not. Like I said before. the turtle played him like a fiddle. He got as much out of that presidency as he could, orange doofus and his Klan are facing indictments left, right and center. Lock him up! Lock him up! Lock him up!
To paraphrase a political philosopher.
I wonder what will happen when or rather if that realization ever reaches that tiny brain of the deranged orange. Pence does, what he has done for the past four years. Pretend his boss does not exist and exhibit enormous flexibility with his Christian faith, in which Jesus and the anti-Christ are apparently interchangeable. Evangelicals *shrug* <perfidious: Which would, of course, be consistent with his policy of isolating himself from all except those willing to play sycophant to the full during his final days.> Well, they are sycophants. Donnie has simply outlived his usefulness. They can try to get one more boost for the Georgia run-offs out of him. But even there he might be well past his shelf life, like a Trump steak. |
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Dec-23-20
 | | saffuna: <Of course not.> With cabinet members or White House staff he could always just fire anyone who wasn't pleasing him. And he certainly fired a lot of them, though often it was framed as a "resignation." But Pence is right there, can do what he wants, and Trump can't fire him. |
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| Dec-23-20 | | Refused: Legally yes. But some firings came at a price. *cough* Comey *cough*. The VP is strangely bulletproof, and useless as a position at the same time. Also <his> judges are not nearly as beholden to him as he thought. Altho, I find the idea of Roberts bullying his fellow judges into not touching that Texas law suit with stick quite amusing. Think of the Supreme Court as Highschool and Roberts as captain of the Football team. Well, I could make a cheap joke about Kavanaugh being passed out drunk most of the time. Needless to say, I'd rather spend my time with the nerds (Kagan and Sotomayor) on that court than with the jocks. |
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