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| Jan-09-14 | | Jim Bartle: I think Pitino's recruiting has been pretty questionable over the years, though I do get him confused with Calipari at times. But Pitino definitely goes out and recruits guys, most of his best players, who he knows are going to play one year and then go pro. These are the guys who would straight to the NBA out of high school if it were permitted. He's not interested in education or even really building a team. |
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| Jan-09-14 | | Jim Bartle: I saw another story where an NBA defender is "posterized." I really dislike hearing this whenever a guy dunks on another guy. It's going to happen, no big deal. And I think sometimes defenders don't even try out of fear of being "posterized," just let the guy dunk. |
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Jan-09-14
 | | WannaBe: <Jim Bartle> Yeah, them white folks all look alike to me, too. =) |
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| Jan-09-14 | | Shams: <JB> <But Pitino definitely goes out and recruits guys, most of his best players, who he knows are going to play one year and then go pro. These are the guys who would straight to the NBA out of high school if it were permitted.> Isn't it either get one year out of those guys, or get zero (and watch the player go one-and-done at a rival school)? This is a criticism of college basketball as a whole, it seems to me. Yeah, if your name is Coach K you can do otherwise and still win, but there aren't many of those guys. |
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| Jan-09-14 | | Jim Bartle: Yes, but there are only a few college which load up on one-and-dones every year. Pitino is definitely dedicated to basketball, though. His HOF speech showed that. |
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Jan-09-14
 | | Phony Benoni: <Jim Bartle> You had a duplicate post in there. I deleted the one with the typo. Sorry for lowering your total. |
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| Jan-09-14 | | Jim Bartle: I'm more embarrassed by my total than anything. |
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Jan-09-14
 | | OhioChessFan: <JB: I saw another story where an NBA defender is "posterized." I really dislike hearing this whenever a guy dunks on another guy. It's going to happen, no big deal. And I think sometimes defenders don't even try out of fear of being "posterized," just let the guy dunk.> I thought I was the only person who thought that. |
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| Jan-09-14 | | Jim Bartle: On the other hand, "breaking ankles" doesn't bother me. It's a good description. |
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Jan-11-14
 | | perfidious: A-Roid catches a break, as suspension reduced to a full season from 211 games: http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on... Rodriguez, of course, does not see things that way, so the battle continues apace. <“The number of games sadly comes as no surprise, as the deck has been stacked against me from day one. This is one man's decision, that was not put before a fair and impartial jury, does not involve me having failed a single drug test, is at odds with the facts and is inconsistent with the terms of the Joint Drug Agreement and the Basic Agreement, and relies on testimony and documents that would never have been allowed in any court in the United States because they are false and wholly unreliable. This injustice is MLB's first step toward abolishing guaranteed contracts in the 2016 bargaining round, instituting lifetime bans for single violations of drug policy, and further insulating its corrupt investigative program from any variety <sic> defense by accused players, or any variety of objective review.....No player should have to go through what I have been dealing with, and I am exhausting all options to ensure not only that I get justice...."> Ever the victim.
At least if he manages to defer his punishment, Yankees are on the hook for his salary in '14, so long as he remains on the roster. No salary break for them. |
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Jan-11-14
 | | Phony Benoni: I've been critical of teams deliberately losing games to get a better draft pick, but there are times when playing "poorly" is the best chance. I don't know if New Orleans let Marshawn Lynch score that touchdown with about 2:30 left, but they should have. It was their only reaslistic chance. And Lynch, of course, made a mistake by scoring. If he sits at the year-lien, they reach the two-minute warning with a first down and no time-outs for New Orleans. Game over. As it was, New Orleans still had a chance and almost pulled it out. |
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Jan-11-14
 | | OhioChessFan: Phony, yeah, I didn't hear a single person mention the Auburn-FSU game, but the last TD scored by Auburn was WAY too early. He could have sat at the one inch line and then Auburn use the clock for 2 downs, hope to score the TD on 3rd down, and failing that, kick the FG to tie on 4th down. I know it's hard to teach players not to score, but I am surprised it's not more common. |
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Jan-11-14
 | | WannaBe: That was quick, 7-0 Pats... |
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Jan-11-14
 | | perfidious: <Jim>: Jessica Dorrell was Petrino's paramour, a former volleyball player at Arkansas. Here is a photo (Dorrell on far right):
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q... Some background on Dorrell: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby... Now for a photo of Karen Cunagin Sypher, one of Pitino's dalliances, in which she does look a mite daft:
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q... We have the Louisville Courier-Journal to thank for that gem. |
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Jan-11-14
 | | WannaBe: Touchdown, touchdown!! 14-0 Pats... |
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Jan-11-14
 | | Phony Benoni: <OCF> It's different when you're behind and need the touchdown. A simple false start penalty, and suddenly you're not feeling so good about matters. But when it's practically a Victory Formation situation... On the other hand, are you going to be the one to tell Marshawn Lynch not to score? |
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Jan-11-14
 | | WannaBe: Touchdown Colts, 14-7 |
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Jan-11-14
 | | OhioChessFan: Well, Auburn needed a field goal to tie, so that was in their pocket, a touchdown to take the lead. Yes, it is more incumbent to consider not scoring when you have the lead. I had always noticed that, and it is especially relevant in the age of the 2 point conversion. Up one point, run the clock out instead of scoring 7 and letting the other team have a chance at 8 to tie. |
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Jan-11-14
 | | WannaBe: Touchdown Pats, 21-7 New England... |
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| Jan-11-14 | | Jim Bartle: Strange situations do occur. The Packers allowed Denver to score from the one with the score tied and less than two minutes left. Otherwise they figured Denver would just hold the ball until kicking a field goal as time ran out. Now what about the bad snap on the Pats' punt attempt? The punter picks the ball up on the three. What should he do? I think he should toss it out the back of the endzone or run into the endzone and go down. You give up two points rather than seven or three. Of course you have to give the ball up on the next series rather than receive a kickoff. |
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Jan-11-14
 | | Phony Benoni: Other things being equal it's probably better to take the safety, especially these days wgeb fuekd goals from that distance are automatic. But it's not hard to imagine exceptions. For instance: about two minutes to go, and you're down by one point. Fourth and Lots to go on your own one yard line, with no time-outs left. The quarterback takes the ball from center, puts it on the ground, and yells, "Come and get it!" The defense recovers for a TD and take an eight-point lead, but the offensive team gets the ball at the 20 with a chance. Just about any other play leads to a Victory Formation situation. It would be interesting to see what would happen if both sides just stood there. I imagine the officials would eventually declare the play dead rather than let time run out. (I've seen them do that when the kicking team tries to run time by not downing a punt.) Perhaps the justest thing would be to penalize the offensive team for unsportsmanlike conduct or delay of game, producing a safety. Which brings up another question I need to look up: Can a team try an onside kick on a free kick? If so, that changes the dynamics considerably. |
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Jan-11-14
 | | WannaBe: Luck's third INT tonight, didn't he have 3 INTs last week against KC? <Jim Bartle> We were talking about that play at the watering hole, if the kick had thrown the ball and it was incomplete, the ball would be back at the line the scrimmage and be Indy's ball. From watching the replay, we believe he was trying to throw the ball, (Does that make everyone an eligible receive in this scenario??) He had the ball, if he gets sacked in the end zone, Safety. If the ball is knocked out of the end zone, Safety. If the he throws the ball and it is incomplete, it goes back to the line of scrimmage. (But, if he throws it, and gets a pass interference call, New England first down!) The one play that had us puzzled, was after the free kick, Indy (and NE) had 3 time-outs. They rushed up to the line of scrimmage (after getting a first down) and the play resulted in the throw glancing off the receiver's shoulder for INT. We wondered, with 3 TOs, after 2 minutes warning, (relatively young team vs experienced New England), why did Indy not use a TO? New England just scored again...
L. Blount have 4 TDs in this game, which means he will parlay this into a great contract with the Raiders. Like Larry what's his name with Dallas, after the 'Boys won Super Bowl, Raiders signed him,, and he did diddly-squat. |
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Jan-11-14
 | | Phony Benoni: Ah-ha! You can try an onside kick on the free kick after a safety. Same rules, with one exception: no kicking tee can be used. That might complicate matters. http://static.nfl.com/static/conten... (see p.29)
<WannaBe> If he was trying to throw the ball out of the back of the endzone, that would actually be a lateral and treated as a fumble. |
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Jan-11-14
 | | OhioChessFan: Thoughts: What was Dierdorff carrying on about? A safety wasn't all that bad a result. I despise how bad most announcers are. <Wannabe> I think he was trying to throw a forward pass from the half yard line. I thought the refs <might> call it an incomplete pass, and then the ball <would> go back to the original line of scrimmage on downs. The eligible receivers at the time of the snap are the eligible receivers the whole play. And the no timeout call from Indy bewildered me. Under 2 minutes, with 3 timeouts, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE if you call the timeout early or late in that 2 minute period? If the clock is running with 1:55 or 30 seconds, what difference does it make? I can't believe how many teams end up going to the locker room with all 3 timeouts. Phony, I saw a team once do an onsides with the punt after safety and the receiving team seemed to be caught by surprise, though they did get possession. |
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| Jan-11-14 | | Shams: To borrow <acirce>'s line about Korchnoi-- frankly, Dierdorf should have retired decades ago. |
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