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Phony Benoni
Member since Feb-10-06 · Last seen Jun-11-22
Greetings, O Seeker After Knowledge! You have arrived in Dearborn, Michigan (whether you like it or not), and are reading words of wisdom from a player rated 2938--plus or minus 1000 points.

However, I've retired from serious play--not that I ever took playing chess all that seriously. You only have to look at my games to see that. These days I pursue the simple pleasures of finding games that are bizarre or just plain funny. I'd rather enjoy a game than analyze it.

For the record, my name is David Moody. This probably means nothing to you unless you're a longtime player from Michigan, though it's possible that if you attended any US Opens from 1975-1999 we might have crossed paths. Lucky you.

If you know me at all, you'll realize that most of my remarks are meant to be humorous. I do this deliberately, so that if my analysis stinks to High Heaven I can always say that I was just joking.

As you can undoubtedly tell from my sparkling wit, I'm a librarian in my spare time. Even worse, I'm a cataloger, which means I keep log books for cattle. Also, I'm not one of those extroverts who sit at the Reference Desk and help you with research. Instead, I spend all day staring at a computer screen updating and maintaining information in the library's catalog. The general public thinks Reference Librarians are dull. Reference Librarians think Catalogers are dull.

My greatest achievement in chess, other than tricking you into reading this, was probably mating with king, bishop and knight against king in a tournament game. I have to admit that this happened after an adjournment, and that I booked up like crazy before resuming. By the way, the fact I have had adjourned games shows you I've been around too long.

My funniest moment occurred when I finally got a chance to pull off a smothered mate in actual play. You know, 1.Nf7+ Kg8 2.Nh6+ Kh8 3.Qg8+ Rxg8 4.Nf7#. When I played the climactic queen check my opponent looked at the board in shocked disbelief and said, "But that's not mate! I can take the queen!"

Finally, I must confess that I once played a positional move, back around 1982. I'll try not to let that happen again.

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   Phony Benoni has kibitzed 18634 times to chessgames   [more...]
   Jun-11-22 M Blau vs Keres, 1959 (replies)
 
Phony Benoni: Not a good recommendation for the DERLD. Out of 59 moves, White makes only three in Black's half of the board. And two of those conist of 3.Bb5 and 6.Bxc6.
 
   Jun-11-22 chessgames.com chessforum (replies)
 
Phony Benoni: Er, it's back. Karpov vs Timman, 1988
 
   Jun-10-22 Orlo Milo Rolo
 
Phony Benoni: Marco!
 
   Jun-10-22 Lilienthal vs Bondarevsky, 1947
 
Phony Benoni: Another one for you King Hunters. Black's monarch travels fron g8 to b8, then takes the Great Circle Route back to h3 before calling it a day.
 
   Jun-10-22 GrahamClayton chessforum (replies)
 
Phony Benoni: <GrahamClayton> I've posted a question for you at L T Magee vs J Holland, 1948
 
   Jun-10-22 L T Magee vs E L Holland, 1948 (replies)
 
Phony Benoni: <GrahamClayton> The source you cite, <Chess Review, May 1948, p. 24>, gives Black's name as <E Holland> "Chess Life" (June 5, 1948, p. 1) has a table of results giving <E L Holland>. That form also appears in USCF rating supplements for a player fro ...
 
   Jun-09-22 Biographer Bistro (replies)
 
Phony Benoni: SkinnVer Here Among the Fold?
 
   Jun-09-22 Flohr vs Bondarevsky, 1947 (replies)
 
Phony Benoni: Black's bishop makes me think of Godzilla emerging from the depths of the ocean to wreak havoc. However, in the end it's his Two Little Friends who steal the show. Well, maybe not so litt.
 
   Jun-06-22 W Ritson-Morry vs G T Crown, 1947
 
Phony Benoni: it was the last round. Rison-Morry was mired in last place. These things happen.
 
   Jun-06-22 W Adams vs M Kagan, 1947
 
Phony Benoni: Some more informztion. The game was published in <Chess Review>, March 1948, p. 23. Black's name is given as "M Kagan", and the location as "Massachusetts". There is no other game data, but I think we can now safely assume Black is <Milton Kagan>. Earlier in the ...
 
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Dec-02-14  Jim Bartle: There was a high kickoff last night which had it been five yards shorter, the kicking team could have caught the ball.

So <PB>, you're saying <OCF> is wrong when he says the kickoff is a live ball? I just don't see how a live ball can be fair caught.

Dec-02-14
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  OhioChessFan: Just making the point that it goes without saying a fair catch signal on a kickoff doesn't negate the fact it's a live ball. If it did, a team expecting an onside kick could simply line up and everyone signal fair catch and the ball would be dead.

I have seen teams try the popup kickoff, generally trying to get it about 20 yards downfield, just past the initial wave of receivers. Never saw it come close to working.

Dec-02-14  Jim Bartle: <Just making the point that it goes without saying a fair catch signal on a kickoff doesn't negate the fact it's a live ball. If it did, a team expecting an onside kick could simply line up and everyone signal fair catch and the ball would be dead.>

That's my point. No kicker has been able to, or tried to, kick it high and short enough for a teammate to catch it on the fly.

Dec-02-14
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  WannaBe: <Jim Bartle> Now, I am getting a bit annoyed at you... (I don't think you bothered to read any of the links I spent time lookin' and posting) Next time you have a question, google it yourself.

Read #4 of the NFL.com link, and you will notice that kickers always bounce the ball on an on-side kick.

Dec-02-14
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  WannaBe: Here, read this article (Q & A) from 2011:

http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/n...

Dec-02-14  Jim Bartle: I never mentioned bouncing kicks. My example was the kick fair caught last night on about the 40 yard line. Players from the kicking team were pretty close to the ball when it came down.

That 49ers link still doesn't answer my question. OK, a player made a fair catch on a kickoff? What if an opponent had been right there? It's a live ball, can he go for it?

Someday a kicker will learn to kick the ball high and about 15 yards. Then the rule will need to be clarified.

Dec-02-14
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  WannaBe: If the ball does <NOT> touch the ground, you can signal fair catch. Whether the ball travels 60 yards or 10 yards.

Hence, in an expected on-side kick situation, coach(es) always put in the all-hands team and some of the smarter players who know the details of the game.

Else receiving team can always call a time out (if they have one) and make sure the Special Team knows what to do in case something unexpected happens.

Dec-02-14  Jim Bartle: OK then. So there are limits on saying a kickoff is a "live ball."
Dec-02-14
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  WannaBe: The ball can be touched by the receiving team at any time, for the kicking team it must go 10 yards or more.
Dec-02-14
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  Phony Benoni: <JB> As I understand this, you think it unfair that a receiving team can, by calling for a fair catch, deny the kicking team a chance to recover a live ball.

Well, it doesn't have to be fair. it's a rule.

Seriously, this seems to be one of those arbitrary decisions between arguable alternatives. Why, for instance, should simultaneous possession favor the receiver?

In the situation you describe the current ruling seems clear to me, and I'm not sure what needs to be clarified.

Dec-02-14  Jim Bartle: I don't think it's unfair. I just think two different rules clash, and might cause a big problem in the future.

As I understand it from comments, a player on the receiving team can call a fair catch and no player on the kicking team can jump and catch it.

This is really unlikely, but like the "fourth out" in baseball, has the potential to lead to a controversy sometime in the future.

Dec-02-14
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  WannaBe: This is from 2010, I don't know if the rule have been further amended/changed or not. But I think it's rather 'stupid'.

In my opinion, once the ball touches the receiver and <IS NOT SECURED> it should be fair game. Example, once a ball is tipped (at the line of scrimmage) there is no pass inteference anymore.

Once a ball is touched/blocked on a punt, the kicker is no longer eligible for Roughing the Kicker penalty.

http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/...

So, let's say, for the sake of argument, I signal a fair catch, and of course, being all thumbs and alligator arm, the ball bounces off my chest and goes up in the air.

I don't see why the gunners can't jump ball it. (Think basketball tip-off) But have to wait for me and give me a chance to recover my own muff/fumble.

Dec-02-14  Jim Bartle: That rule goes against everything a player has learned since he started playing. Once he muffs the ball everyone should be able to go after it.
Dec-03-14
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  WannaBe: http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/1...

Maybe they should both restart their franchise...

Dec-03-14  Jim Bartle: A devious plot by the Sixers to win a game. They'd play, "lose," then point out the baskets were wrong.

I saw a really nice interview with Popovich praising the Sixers and their coaches for playing hard and tough under difficult circumstances.

Dec-03-14
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  OhioChessFan: <So, let's say, for the sake of argument, I signal a fair catch, and of course, being all thumbs and alligator arm, the ball bounces off my chest and goes up in the air.

I don't see why the gunners can't jump ball it. >

How do you distuinguish between a person not completely securing the punt, eg a small bobble where it might leave their grasp for a half second, and a ball that bounces 8 feet high? I can't think of a plausible way to write the rule that would be reasonable to enforce for both sides.

Dec-03-14
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  WannaBe: Okay, so after that restart, Philly won!! (Maybe they should restart more often)

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap...

Dec-04-14
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  keypusher: <WannaBe: Okay, so after that restart, Philly won!! (Maybe they should restart more often)>

Some smart aleck tweeted that it was like watching the Washington Generals play themselves.

Dec-04-14
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  keypusher: <Jim Bartle et al.> Re WannaBe's post about having the ball bounce on onside kicks, here is an article about former Dolphins kicker Olindo Mare, who was great at driving the ball and making it pop up in the air. I couldn't find any video, though.

<http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...>

Dec-04-14
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  WannaBe: Amazing how often the Generals fall for the pull down the shorts trick.

Have the Generals ever fire their coach for lack of "winning attitude"? What exactly does the General Manager look for in a player while scouting? "Man, that dude is sulking, again, he'll be a great fit on our team."

While we are on the subject of the Generals, what DO they discuss during a time-out?

"Hey, watch out for that ball on the string trick", "When they start that 5-men weave, don't just stand there, AGAIN!!", "I swear, if you let them shoot that half-court three again, I'm gonna trade you the Chinese Basketball League!"

Dec-04-14  Jim Bartle: Generals say, "Just wait until we play them at home."
Dec-04-14
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  WannaBe: Quite a drive by Dallas, converted 2 fourth down plays...
Dec-05-14
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  WannaBe: You know what that big 'N' on the side of the helmet represent?

Nowledge!

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf...

Dec-05-14
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  WannaBe: Rain a little bit earlier, still (very) dark clouds over head. Could be a wet Pac-12 Championship Game by half time.
Dec-06-14
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  OhioChessFan: Playing Through:

http://www.nbcsports.com/golf/pga/w...

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