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| Aug-29-09 | | A.G. Argent: <...anamalistic.> Of course I meant animalistic. And while I'm at it, if my words seemed overly harsh to Reds/Rose fans, sorry, don't care. |
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| Aug-29-09 | | Travis Bickle: <A.G. Argent> You better re-think Rose making Butkus or Romanowski look like choir boys. I remember Romanowski spitting in an opponents face because he felt like it! As for being more mean than Butkus forget about it. Butkus would tear pete Rose's lips off and enjoy it and then turn him into a woman!! |
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| Aug-29-09 | | Travis Bickle: I don't see whats so bad about blazing to 1st on a walk. Back in the 60's fans got excitement out of a gung ho guy who enjoyed the damn game instead of today's ball players taking the field just to buy jets and mansions. Ernie Banks used to say "Lets play two today" and fans appreciated that. Now you have steroid morons standing at home plate 30 seconds after they hit a homerun showing up the pitcher. If they tried that sh#$ in the 60's guys like Gibson, or Drysdale would make them eat dirt the next time up, and they'd like it! Now you hit the guy on the ankle and he tries to kill the pitcher for "disrepecting him". Maybe they should where their gang colors when they bat! |
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| Aug-29-09 | | Travis Bickle: <A.G. Argent> This is Dick Butkus. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBum... |
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| Aug-29-09 | | A.G. Argent: <T> Yeah, I knew what I was saying about Rose wouldn't be hugely popular but I'm just stating how I view the guy. And that was Terrell Owens, his former team-mate, that Romanowski spat on after the p....k went to the Broncos. Or was it the Raiders? Spitting in somebody's face, now that spells class. Roberto Alomar anyone? |
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| Aug-29-09 | | Travis Bickle: <A.G. Argent> You said Rose would make a choir boy out of Romanowski and Butkus you didnt say Rose would out class them!? |
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| Aug-30-09 | | playground player: <A.G.Argent> So how do you really feel about Pete Rose? Don't be afraid to be candid. <Phony Benoni> Yes, Eddie Yost! One of my all-time favorites. But to divert discussion away from baseball for a moment, one deduces from your handle that you are a fan of the Benoni defenses. I'm sure you know a great deal more about them than I even suspect. I hate playing Black against 1.d4, and I've always felt (not known, based on experience) that the Benoni was among the better answers to this. But upon consulting a master, I was told the Benoni isn't worth much. Obviously that's a subjective judgment--otherwise the CG database wouldn't contain thousands of Benoni games, and you'd be calling yourself something like Counterfeit Caro-Kann. I would appreciate your discoursing a bit on the Benoni, its objectives, its benefits for Black, and which of its practitioners I ought to study--either here or on my forum. I'd like to hear from other Benoni fans, too. I mostly play the Albin Countergambit against 1.d4. It serves me well against players on my own level (no formal ranking--"expert" on Pogo), but seems not to be quite strong enough against players who are just flat-out better than me. I get decent games out of the Albin, but in the end, I lose. (Maybe, against these guys, I would lose no matter what opening I tried. I do a heckuva lot better against 1.e4.) I recently beat a Regional Senior Champion in a Giuoco Piano game, after he beat me playing 1.d4. I got a close game with my Albin, but not close enough. |
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| Aug-30-09 | | A.G. Argent: <T> Sorry, in my roundabout, meandering way I guess maybe I was trying to say that Rose was in the wrong sport, that he should have played football. It would have fit his personality better. Whatever. I do get carried away. Oh and by the by, I personally like your poem. No critic, I. |
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| Aug-30-09 | | Jim Bartle: I really have only one complaint against Pete Rose, aside from the gambling: He used his position as manager to play himself at first base for two years beyond the time his play merited being a regular. No other manager would have played him every day. |
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| Aug-30-09 | | Travis Bickle: <A.G. Argent> A.G. No worries I get carried away all the time LOL! I totally agree with you that Pete Rose betting baseball while managing was despicable! On the other hand it doesnt diminish what he did on the playing field. A good comparison would be Bobby Fischer's chess accomplishments and what his personal life became. Also Rose would have made a great fullback. The monster really destroyed Ray Fosse in an AllStar game which Rose justified, "it broke the tie in an extra inning game"! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0Wi... |
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Aug-30-09
 | | Phony Benoni: <playground player> Every time I talk to a prospective Benoni player, I get the feeling that I'm leading them down the road to perdition. Don't say I didn't warn you. click for larger viewThis is the classic position of the Modern Benoni after <1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5 3.d5 e6 4.Nc3 exd5 5.cxd5 d6>. The key feature of this position is its imbalance. White has the edge in the center and kingside, Black a queenside pawn majority. Both players must play dynamically or risk being overrun. White's usual idea is to advance in the center with e4-e5, blasting away Black's bulwark at d6. Often, he will put additional pressure on these squares with Nf3-d2-c4. The move a2-a4 is usually played as well to slow Black's counterplay with ...b5. Black seeks to advance his queenside majority, aided by the bishop on g7 which has a free line toward White's queenside. Also, there are opportunities for pressure on White's center with ...Re8, or ...c4 followed by placing a knight on c5. Another idea is an early ...Bg4, pinning the Nf3 and trading off before it can journey to c4. The Nb8 can go to d7, or a6-c7 depending on circumstances. The Benoni, then, is more of a "feel" opening than a labyrinth of analysis. Both sides have many ideas, and the game often becomes a battle of judgment over whose plan will work out in a specific situation. In general, at Master levels, White's central play is thought to be more dangerous and easier to play. Usually when you hear something like that, the weapon in question is deadly at lower levels. That's not the case with the Benoni; the positions are just so sharp that's it easy to misplay them at any level, as long as White has some notion of the correct ideas and doesn't drift around. The classic games to study are Tal's from the 1950s. The game that really turned me on to the Benoni, however, was Spassky vs Fischer, 1972; it was love at first sight once I saw that game. Frankly, if you're more familiar with the Albin, I think you'll do better with it against stronger players than with the Benoni. Most strong players are more familiar with the Benoni, and have some notion of what to do. And I honestly think the Albin is easier to handle against weaker players as well. So why don't I play the Albin? What can I say? I'm in love! But the real key is that you will do better with an opening you are more familiar and comfortable with than with a theoretically better line you just can't get the hang of. Finally, do you play mostly blitz or slower games? The Modern Benoni is not a good blitz opening for Black; you need time to think and discover the appropriate ideas. Now, this all sounds very discouraging, but I'm just trying to be honest. For me, there is no greater satisfaction than a Benoni that clicks just right. You might have a glance at this game to see what I mean: Patty John vs D Moody, 1988. |
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| Aug-30-09 | | ganstaman: You posted this positon on that game you mention in your above post:
 click for larger view36. ? White to move. I'm pretty sure I've got it, but want to make sure. 36. Qxg6+, right? Also, I've played the KID a bit in the past (really all internet games, a couple correspondence games but mainly blitz). It seemed weird to me to trap in my bishop on g7, so then I tried the Benoni. Well, the bishop was freed, but black creates so much weakness in his own position. I agree with you, you have to play so actively just to hold on, and the moves aren't so intuitive, at least to me. I have won games with the Benoni, but it always seems that white either makes a mistake or doesn't play the most challenging moves. I guess I can expect that in any opening with the opponents I'd play, so maybe it's not so bad? |
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Aug-30-09
 | | Phony Benoni: <ganstaman>: You got the puzzle: <36.Qxg6+ hxg6 37.Rh8+ Kg7 38.Ne6#> I chose the knight mate rather than 38.R1h7# because I wanted to make sure I didn't move the wrong rook. <I have won games with the Benoni, but it always seems that white either makes a mistake or doesn't play the most challenging moves. I guess I can expect that in any opening with the opponents I'd play, so maybe it's not so bad?> You must understand something about my style: I almost never win a game in which I was not dead busted at some point. Might as well play the Benoni and get that detail out of the way early! |
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Aug-31-09
 | | LIFE Master AJ: Will the Lions go 0-16 (again) this season? [Sorry, I had to ask it ... ] |
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Aug-31-09
 | | Phony Benoni: Well, I can guarantee they won't do worse than last year. Seriously, the chances of a team going 0-16 twice in a row are probably about the same as a team going 16-0 twice in a row. Although I do recall the case of Randy. My college chess club had an informal blitz chess competition going one year, and we kept track of all our results. Over the course of the year, Randy scored 3 wins, 238 losses. Two of the wins were on time against the slowest player in the club, and one more or less legitimate. At the end of the year, Randy looked at his score and shook his head. "I can't understand it", he said. "I always beat Uncle Fred!" |
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| Aug-31-09 | | Jim Bartle: Who do they play in their first few games? |
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| Aug-31-09 | | A.G. Argent: JB, nice pop by Edgar yesterday. Almost September and SF is plenty involved you bet. |
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Aug-31-09
 | | Phony Benoni: 1 @New Orleans
2 Favres
3 Washington
4 @Bickles
5 Pittsburgh
6 Green Bay
Bye
7 St Louis
8 @Seattle
9 @Favres
10 Cleveland
11 Green Bay (Turkey Game)
12 @Cincinnati
13 @Baltimore
14 Arizona
15 @San Francisco
16 Bickles
Weeks 4 and 16 look like the best shots for victories, but I won't be shocked if they beat New Orleans. |
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| Aug-31-09 | | Jim Bartle: Yes, a surprising sweep of the Rockies, coming back from 5-2 down in the seventh. The Giants have three very good starters (Zito looks to be back), which could make them dangerous in a short series. I see Detroit plays Minnesota in week two. I'd love to see Brett Favre throw a last-minute interception to give the Lions a win. |
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Aug-31-09
 | | Phony Benoni: I can't decide if the fans around here hate Favre or Vick more. What happens if Minnesota plays Philadelphia? Do you root for a tie? |
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Aug-31-09
 | | LIFE Master AJ: Easy call. I still love Brett Farve. I HATE Vick. He's an ex-con, he's got no business even playing in the NFL. |
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| Aug-31-09 | | Travis Bickle: <Phony Benoni: 1 @New Orleans
2 Favres
3 Washington
4 @Bickles
5 Pittsburgh
6 Green Bay
Bye
7 St Louis
8 @Seattle
9 @Favres
10 Cleveland
11 Green Bay (Turkey Game)
12 @Cincinnati
13 @Baltimore
14 Arizona
15 @San Francisco
16 Bickles
Week 4 and 16 when they play Bickle (LOL), Detroit better get 3 extra trainers and a few ambulances on the sidelines hahaha!!! |
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| Aug-31-09 | | Jim Bartle: No, no, no! They play the Niners in game 15? Could be a lot of pressure on them, and they're bound to fold. |
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Aug-31-09
 | | LIFE Master AJ: <<I have won games with the Benoni, but it always seems that white either makes a mistake or doesn't play the most challenging moves. I guess I can expect that in any opening with the opponents I'd play, so maybe it's not so bad?> You must understand something about my style: I almost never win a game in which I was not dead busted at some point. Might as well play the Benoni and get that detail out of the way early!> You're a hoot! |
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| Aug-31-09 | | Travis Bickle: <Jim Bartle> The Bears have a meeting with your Niners week 10! I hope Singletary doesnt go beserk at the podium with the media after the beating his team will take! LOL |
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