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| May-31-17 | | zanzibar: <MissS> can you possibly spell out exactly how Berthold helped out his brother in that game? |
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May-31-17
 | | MissScarlett: I believe Emanuel was scheduled to give that simul, but Berthold stepped into the breach. I'll look up the source tomorrow. |
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| May-31-17 | | zanzibar: Ah, interesting... |
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| May-31-17 | | zanzibar: You probably submitted the game too, given that it has a source tag(!): <[Source "The (London) Standard, 1894.11.12, p.7"]> . |
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Jun-09-18
| | MissScarlett: Something I hadn't noticed before was the lack of a systematic white-black alternation of rounds. Lasker, for instance, had the White pieces for rounds 11-14, followed by five consecutive games with Black. Anyone know more about the pairing methods used at the time? |
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Jun-09-18
 | | Retireborn: <MissS> Crouch's tournament book implies that drawings for rounds took place every day and the players did not know until 30 minutes before the start who their opponent of the day would be. Except the last round, I suppose. ISTR something similar at New York 1924. |
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| Jun-09-18 | | Olavi: Schallopp's tournament book states the same. |
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Jun-10-18
| | MissScarlett: Pillsbury, Steinitz, Schlechter, Blackburne, Walbrodt, Burn, Mason, Gunsberg, Albin, Marco and Tinsley were the players who enjoyed an extra White. |
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Jun-10-18
| | Retireborn: One of Pillsbury's Whites was his walk-over against von Bardeleben; possibly he'd have preferred to use up a Black in that way. |
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Jun-10-18
 | | Sally Simpson: As well as the pre-round drawing of lots in another effort to spice things up there was a special prize donated by Joseph Cooke of Knockgraffon (it's in Ireland) of a 'handsome' ring and four volumes of 'The Theory and Practise of Chess' by Salvioli to the player who won the most Evans Gambits Accepted with either colour. There were 9 Evans Gambits but one was declined W Pollock vs Lasker, 1895 which prompted this wonderful caustic note from Tarrasch: "It is noteworthy that Lasker usually declines the Evans’ Gambit, although he has declared that he knows a winning defence." Of the remaining 8 games,
Steinitz won 2, Pillsbury won 2 and Chigorin won 2. A tie breaker was in place, it was resolved by the player who was involved in the most Evans Gambits (with either colour) This was Chigorin with 4 games. The tournament book by Horace Cheshire duly reports that Chigorin did indeed receive the Evans Gambit Joseph Cooke Prize. We now need a benefactor in the shape of another Joseph Cooke to award a 'handsome' ring to players who do NOT play the Berlin Defence. |
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Jun-10-18
| | MissScarlett: <Steinitz won 2> But neither with own winning defence: C.N. 4171 |
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| Jun-10-18 | | WorstPlayerEver: <MissScarlett> Oh well, how many times did Ruy Lopez play the Ruy Lopez? |
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Jan-04-19
| | Sally Simpson: From the wall at the current 1918/19 Hastings event. https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.ne... |
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Jan-04-19
| | Retireborn: <Geoff> Nice. Can't read the names but can identify seven of them straight off. It's 2019 by the way. |
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Jan-04-19
 | | keypusher: <Sally Simpson> IIRC Chigorin vs Gunsberg, 1895 was the only White victory with the Evans in the entire tournament. So even before Lasker's Defense became popular the gambit was not faring well. But perhaps artificial intelligence will come to the rescue. AlphaZero vs Stockfish, 2018 <Sally Simpson: From the wall at the current 1918/19 Hastings event.> Sally, I know you're old school, but this is going too far. |
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Jan-05-19
| | Sally Simpson: ***
:) Just like my opening theory, I'm 100 years behind everyone else. (same day also put in a holiday request at work for June this year dated 1919.) *** |
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| Oct-14-19 | | Caissanist: The official tournament book, published in 1896 is online here: https://books.google.com/books?id=H... . In addition to many annotated games, it includes high-quality photos of all the participants. |
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Feb-08-21
| | MissScarlett: <This is a comparison of the tournament Hastings 1895 with data from six sources. 53 games have move differences and I have checked the two tournament books by Cheshire and Schallopp, resp.: for 36 cases the difference appears already there! In other words: the two tournament books differ in a seventh of all games. And this surprises even more, if you know that Schallopp's book heavily depends on Cheshire's. Please draw your first conclusion on the reliabilty of historical game-scores.> https://thomastonk.jimdofree.com/ |
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| Feb-08-21 | | Z legend 000000010: <Missy> a few thoughts... 1) Have you looked at the games with differences? I suppose checking with an engine and evaluating the moves would quickly reveal one source as more reliable than the other. (I.e. I have a vague memory that Schallopp wasn's so reliable, but what say you?). 2.) OK, now that we know where Thomas disappeared to, have you actually tried his "Chess Suite" program? Is it freeware or not? I wonder, because he asks for requests via email, and I was too lazy to read everything in detail at the moment. It looks pretty extensive, but I'd like some feedback on its usefulness. I do remember a few downloads of my pgn-compare.py program from a number of years ago, wonder if there's a connection? 3.) Have you discovered SCID's "delete twin" game feature? It's very, very useful for comparing two pgn's of the same game. I utilized it a lot back in a former life. |
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| Dec-10-22 | | Baxer: How did whoever made the summary of the tournament able to get hold of the book: Hastings 1895: Centenary Edition by Colin Crouch. That book is impossible to get a hold of. I hav been trying to find a copy for a while now. |
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| Dec-19-22 | | tastywalrus02: is the crouch book with modern notations? |
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| Dec-20-22 | | Baxer: <tastywalrus02> Yes it is. And exceedingly rare. |
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| Dec-20-22 | | stone free or die: The original collection was from user <Benzol>, who likely wrote the tournament intro as well. A very capable contributor, so not so surprising he was able to get a copy of Crouch's book. https://chessimprover.com/rememberi... https://www.chess.com/forum/view/ch... Various holdings of the book can be found here:
https://www.worldcat.org/title/3223... . |
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| Dec-20-22 | | Baxer: <stone free or die> Good to know, and my compliments to this Benzol character and their apparent luck. From what I saw of your/the WorldCat link - there was little in the way of 'various holdings' of the book in question. I wasn't able to find any copies - certainly not any nearby for that matter. I've also read both of your other links too. To speak to the obsession I have had over any information regarding this book and its hopeful acquisition in due time. |
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| Dec-20-22 | | stone free or die: Addon - I imagine that <Benzol> might have actually bought his copy when the book was still in print. Good luck on your searching - it might pop up on various exchanges, but you're likely to need to keep your eyes open for awhile. <<Need input> This book is a bear to find copies of. Two years ago, I found one on chessdirect.co.uk, which appears to be chess.co.uk now, but it is not showing up on their online page. You might email them to see if there's one unaccounted for somewhere. Failing that, the publisher has been defunct for two decades, but the printshop where it was printed is still open: Mensa printers in Sheffield UK. Shot in the dark, maybe they have a copy? Good luck!> https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comm... |
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