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|Jun-10-04|| ||jrsoohoo: Fischer caught 50. ... K-K5! ... 58. Q-N5+, K-B3 59. Q-N2+ P-K4 runs of of checks |
|Jun-10-04|| ||jrsoohoo: geez Dvoretsky just took that out of My 60 Memorable Games |
|Jun-07-05|| ||RookFile: Kasparov's book on Fischer
(My Great Predecessors) has some
great analysis on this game, which
will clear up any questions. Awful
lot of deep stuff going on.
|Aug-31-05|| ||Sergey Sorokhtin: MGP include some mistakes too
... 36.Rf2? Nxf2 37.Kxf2 Re5! 38.b4 Re3! 39.a6 Ra3 40.Rc6–+ g5 41.hxg5+ hxg5 42.b5 g4 43.Rc8? [43.Rc1 g3+ ( 43...Ra2+!–+ Sergey Sorokhtin 44.Kg1 f3!! 45.b6 Rxa6 46.Rb1 Ra8 47.b7 Rb8 48.Kf2 Kf5 49.Kg3 e5 50.Rb5 (50.Rb4 e4 51.Rb5+ Ke6 zugzvang! 52.Rb4 Ke5 53.Rb3 Kd5 54.Kf2 Kc6 ) 50...Ke4 51.Rb3 (take pawn is TABU! 51.Kxg4 f2–+) 51...Kd4 52.Rb4+ (52.Kf2 e4 53.Rb4+ Kd5 54.Ke3 g3–+) 52...Ke3 53.Rb3+ Kd2 54.Rb4 Kd3 55.Rb3+ (55.Kf2 e4–+) 55...Kc4 56.Rb6 e4–+ Key position ! 57.Kf2 Kc5 58.Rb1 Kc6 59.Re1 Rxb7 60.Rxe4 Rb2+–+ ) 44.Kg1 Ra2! 45.Rb1 ( ? - G.K.) ( better is 45.b6! Rxa6 46.Rb1 Ra8 47.b7 Rb8 48.Kg2 e5 49.Kf3 Ke6 –+ Mark Dvoretzky , but after 50.Rb6+ Kd5 51.Rb5+ Kd6 52.Rb6+ Kc7 53.Rb5 Rxb7 54.Rxe5= Kasparov) 45...f3 46.b6 Rg2+ 47.Kf1 Rh2! 48.Ke1 Rh1+ 49.Kd2 Rxb1 50.a7 f2 51.a8Q f1Q–+ Fischer] 43...Kf5 44.b6 g3+ 45.Ke1 Ra1+ 46.Ke2 g2 47.Rf8+ Ke4 48.Rxf4+ Kxf4 49.b7 g1Q 50.b8Q+ Kf5 51.Qf8+ Ke4 52.Qa8+ Kd4 53.Qd8+ Kc4 54.Qd3+ Kc5 55.Qc3+ Kd6 56.Qd2+ Ke5 57.Qb2+ Kf5 0–1
|Aug-31-05|| ||RookFile: I'll have to check out your analysis,
you always seem to have interesting insights.
|Nov-05-05|| ||joelsontang: instead of 42. Rc8, could Rc2 have at least have given white a draw? if not a win? the plan to bolster the pawns from behind, and to shield the king from check.|
|Feb-17-06|| ||babakova: This game is incredibly difficult..I have encountered it before but today I decided to look more deeply into it , first guessing each move, then analyzing my guesses and possible improvements and the actual text moves. Then I compared my analysis to Kasparovs in OMGP IV to see where I went wrong...All in all many twists and turns with many hidden resources that remain unplayed (as with all chessgames that is)... good game.|
|Feb-17-06|| ||RookFile: <Joelsontang> Kasparov does analyze 42. Rc2 in OMGP 4.|
|Oct-20-06|| ||ismet: I think Reshevsky's blunder game one too. I like child Reshevsky more. if you look at his eyes in child time you can see shinning eyes but here especially against Fischer I see nothing. I am looking position move 29 We think Black must be resign. But what Reshevsky did, he follows b6 pawn with Rock like beginning player. Reshevsky had given this game to Fischer.|
|Oct-20-06|| ||RookFile: Well, you've got to give Reshevsky this. His best years were behind him, but the old warrior showed up and played hard in 1961, and fought Bobby Fischer to 5.5 - 5.5 in 11 games, and was even declared the match winner by forfeit. The more you think about it, the more of an impressive result on Reshevsky's part this was.|
|May-07-09|| ||Eyal: Kasparov in OMGP 4 mainly quotes from Dvoretsky's analysis (http://www.chesscafe.com/text/dvore...). Dvoretsky reveals some serious flaws in Fischer's notes from MSMG, mainly with regard to his apparent conviction that Black has enough counterplay to hold the draw after the loss of the exchange. Here are two important points where Fischer misses best play by White:|
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Here Fischer claims that Reshevsky's 33.Rc2 was the only way to preserve winning chances, giving the line 33.Rxb6 Rd2+ 34.Kg1 g5 35.Rcc6 gxh4 36.Rxe6+ Kg5 37.Rg6+ Kh5 38.Rxh6+(??) Kg4 "and Black has enough play on the K-side to hold the draw". But White is under no obligation to help Black by grabbing another pawn with Rxh6+; with the black king cut off from the g-file, 38.b4 or 38.a5 instead should win.
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Here Fischer claims that Reshevsky should have settled for the draw with 36.a6 f3+ 37.Kf1 Rd3 38.Ke1 Re3+ 39.Kf1 Rd3 etc. He misses the excellent resource <36.Rb4!!>, with which White targets the black knight, preparing to exchange it at the right moment for his rook. Dvoretsky's main line goes 36...f3+ 37.Kf1 Kf5 (37...f2 38.Rxf2+ Nxf2 39.Kxf2 is also hopeless for Black) 38.a6 Rd3 39.Rc1 Rd2 40.Rxe4(!) Kxe4 41.a7 Rd8 42.b4 Ra8 43.Rc7! (on 43.Ra1?, Black's king gets to the queenside) 43...Rd8 44.b5 and White wins.
|Jun-14-10|| ||elohah: Note after move 21... p. 170, 60MG:
'After the game we analyzed 21...Qd5 22 Qxf4 Qxb5 23 Nxe6 Qxb2 24 Qh6! (Reshevsky) with an irrestible attack. On 24...Na5 25 Bxf5 ' ...
Hold the phone! Is that a CELLO I hear playing, just beating in my ears, as I kick thru some suprisingly accurate off-hand post-mortem analysis with Reshevsky that I'll later repeat almost verbatim in 60MG?
You know, I am SO tired of these @##$@#$ DISTRACTIONS!! Can you hear that, Sammy?? Huh??
I hear it myself, Bobby. Is it the reason you guys missed 25 h5! here, which looks fairly devastating:
(over to Skij: back in two and two!)
|Jun-14-10|| ||elohah: There's certainly no threat to White's bishop!
After... 25...gh 26 Qg5+ Kh8 27 Rb1 Qc3, I can't tell if 28 Re3! is decisive enuf - after, say, 28...Rg8 29 Rxc3 Rxg5 30 Rxc8+ Bxc8 31 Nxg5 -
perhaps even 29 Qxf5 Rxg2+ 30 Kf1 Qc4+ 31 Bd3!
After 25...gh 26 Qg5+ Kf7 27 Qxf5+ Ke7 ( 27...Qf6? 28 Qxh7+! mates next), there's a number of discoveries, a couple of them connecting up with d7, but barring some clever mate I may be missing, it looks as if 28 Nc7+ Be4 (28...Kd8? 29 Rxe8+ Kxc7 30 Qf4+! DOES force mate.)
29 Rxe4+ Kd6 30 Nxe8+ Rxe8 31 Rd1+ Kc7 32 Rxe8 is sufficient enuf.
|Jun-14-10|| ||elohah: What else after 25 h5!, kids?
Not much. You may as well try something like 25...Be4:
After 26 hg hg 27 Qxg6+ Kh8 28 Rb1!
Qe5 (only square; 28...Qc3? 29 Re3! wins.) And here, let's try and catch the g5-square for a final wipe:
29 Qh6+ Kg8 30 Qg5+! Kf7 31 Rxe4!
|Jun-14-10|| ||elohah: And you know, I think it is appropriate to cancel a Chess match when the organizer cancels a scheduled game due to wanting to run off and play the cello.|
For Chess is on a higher artistic plane than cello playing!
|Jun-14-10|| ||Petrosianic: Er, this actually is not the last game of the match.|
|Jun-15-10|| ||elohah: Missing the move 25...Qf6! this time, a move that's literally right under my NOSE, altho 26 Bxf5! temporarily put a smile back on my face.
It was removed after 26...Rxc1 27 Rxc1 Rxe6! 28 Bxe6+ Qxe6, but suprisingly this time, I DID manage to flop out, because White's position is still dominating:|
Oh, sorry. Did I blurt out the answer again? I forgot to ask first:
White to move: Find the ONLY move that (A) takes command of BOTH central files, and (B) enforces the move h6!
As it happens, Black has only ONE move in reply that stops h6! :
But White just plays
30 f3! and now Black has only TWO moves that avoid immediate death!
Point is if you don't stop Rc7!, Black will die, so there's only ...Qe5 or ...Qe7, and the both of these will allow h6! (plus for White!). But let's rip 30...Qe5 a new a., just to see some higher maximal play:
31 Qd8+ Kg7
32 Rc7+ Kh6
33 Qf8+ Kg5
Not 33...Kxh5? 34 Rxh7+ Kg5
35 f4+! Qxf4 36 Qh6+, when Black won't even get a rook for the queen.
34 Qd8+ Kh6
Not 34...Qf6? 35 f4+! Kf5 36 g4+!
Ke6 37 Qxf6+! Kxf6 38 g5+! Kf5
39 h6! WINS.
|Jun-15-10|| ||elohah: Black's main problem now is that he can't even recapture the g-pawn!:|
36 Qg8+ 1-0
36 Qh4+ 1-0
That leaves only the try for a perpetual:
36 Kf2! Qb2+
37 Kg3 Qe5+
38 f4! Qe3+
Not 38...Qe1+? 39 Kh2!, and the checks are done.
39 Kg4 Qe2+!
40 Kf5 Qe4+!
And Black DOES perpetual!
So just play 31 h6! (instead of 31 Qd8+?) after all, which leaves White with the advantage.
|Jun-15-10|| ||elohah: After 30 Qd2!!, any other move to prevent 31 h6!, since 31...gh? dies fairly immediately to 32 Qg5+!|
Any kind of knight activity loses:
31 Qd8+ Kg7
32 Rc7+ Kh6
33 Qf8+ Kg5
and here 34 hg! is best. Black cannot save his bishop anyway (gh!),
and if 34...Qe1+ 35 Kh2 Qe5+? 36 f4+! wins.
|Jun-15-10|| ||elohah: Anything else after 30 Qd2!! (I am really proud of that move, as you can tell.)|
Well, 30...Qd5 DOES force the queens off, but again, does NOT stop h6!
31 Qxd5 Bxd5
Once this move is in, I am contending that White has what winning chances there are in this position, Can Black hold the rook out?
Not without forfeiting activity, and taking up a defensive posture:
33 Rd1 Bf7
34 Rd6 Be8
Followed by bringing the King in.
33 Rd1 Ne7!
Vital. 34...g5 was threatened (...g5 earlier on move 32 died to 33 Rc7!, of course.)
34 ... Kf7
35 Kf2 Be6
Hi! Anyone want to dump a knight?
Like after 36...Nf5 37 Rh8! Nxh6?
Black probably needs to be active - try to go after the a3 pawn, for ex., but then of course White's rook becomes active, going after both of Black's rook's pawns. I believe White has the better chances.
|Aug-09-12|| ||LoveThatJoker: Guess-the-Move Final Score:
Reshevsky vs Fischer, 1961.
YOU ARE PLAYING THE ROLE OF FISCHER.
Your score: 112 (par = 96)
|Aug-23-12|| ||csmath: This is Reshevsky's two whammies. He was getting into time trouble all the time and then wasn't very careful in endings. You can manage all the greatness in the middlegame but if you blow it in the ending it is all worthless.|
|Aug-29-12|| ||TheFocus: This is game 27 in Fischer's <My 60 Memorable Games>.|
|Jan-18-13|| ||dumbgai: I just got my copy of Fischer's My 60 Memorable Games today. I flipped to a random page and found this game. All I can say for now is that Fischer's annotations are very interesting to read, and he isn't afraid to criticize his own mistakes.|
|Jan-28-13|| ||vinidivici: Fischer got lucky here.
36.Rf2? is a bad move.
Black intending to attack the white king with his troops on the front (pawn,knight,rook). Meanwhile white queens side pawn (a-pawn) is in far front position and likely would bring its toll later. So the easiest way is prepare one rook to sacrifice exchange with the knight when its necessary (rook alone and the pawn CANT checkmate the king) and until that black must fuss over to stop white a-pawn.
40.Rxe4 (This is the point!!) Kxe4
43.Rc7 (not Ra1 because black king could create havoc in the queens side) Rd8 44.b5 1-0
Maybe theres another good move instead 36.Rb4 but i dont recall i ever to learn that.
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