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|Jan-31-12|| ||JoergWalter: 2 notable games with the dutch:
Rubinstein vs Spielmann, 1912
Euwe vs Alekhine, 1935
|Jan-31-12|| ||Nemesistic: In the Vitiugoz vs Moro game he annotates, its 5:18 till he gets around to white's first move and an incredible 8:50 till he gets to blacks reply!!|
I was genuinely going to try watch the whole video too, but.....
|Feb-17-12|| ||Penguincw: I like the pun. :)|
|Apr-14-12|| ||lemaire90: I don't get white's 45th and 46th moves, why did he sack two pawns like that ?|
The point is that in the end position, black wins with one more pawn. If white hadn't sacked his, wouldn't he have had a chance ?
|Apr-14-12|| ||parisattack: < lemaire90: I don't get white's 45th and 46th moves, why did he sack two pawns like that ?
The point is that in the end position, black wins with one more pawn. If white hadn't sacked his, wouldn't he have had a chance ?>|
What would you suggest on 45 for White? Looks like everything loses fairly quickly to me.
|Sep-26-12|| ||Tigranny: I don't mean to rain on the parade, but those queen sacs were pretty obvious to calculate. It's also obvious that Alekhine had a clear advantage for the entire game on how he cramped up Bogo's pieces. I may be a bit harsh on not giving an exclaim mark for any of those sacs or 31...c2, but that's just my view.|
|Sep-26-12|| ||Petrosianic: The exclam is for the whole game collectively. The very idea of a game in which three legitimate Queen sacs possible.|
If you really want to split hairs, you could argue that the third is not a Queen "sac" as such (Black had no opportunity to keep the Queen that time). On the other hand, you could argue that the second Queen Sac was a "double" (he planned to give up the third Queen at the same time that he decided to voluntarily give up the second).
|Sep-26-12|| ||Calli: The first one, 30...bxc3, is not a Queen sacrifice either. It's a forced sequence that exchanges two rooks for a Queen and pawn.|
|Jan-01-13|| ||LIFE Master AJ: http://www.lifemasteraj.com/old_af-...
This game - revisited.
|Jan-03-13|| ||LIFE Master AJ: << Apr-14-12 parisattack: <lemaire90: I don't get white's 45th and 46th moves, why did he sack two pawns like that ? The point is that in the end position, black wins with one more pawn. If white hadn't sacked his, wouldn't he have had a chance ?>
What would you suggest on 45 for White? Looks like everything loses fairly quickly to me. <<<>>> >>|
White was in a state of near-zugzwang ... in such positions the side with more material commonly gives it back just to try and get more freedom for his pieces.
|Feb-12-13|| ||SirChrislov: Why in the world 3 British authors named Nunn, Emms, and Burgess intentionally left this gem out of their <Mammoth Book of the World's Greatest Chess Games> is STILL incomprehensible to me even after 15 years. You think they would correct the omission in the 2 volumes that followed, but no.|
|Feb-13-13|| ||SirChrislov: In the following year, Burgess went solo with his own account of chess history in <Chess Highlughts of the 20th Century: The best chess 1900-1999 in historical context> where he did include this game and several others from <Mammoth Book of the WGCG>: |
Chess Highlights of the 20th Century, 1999; page 48:
1922 - Another good year for Alekhine
Alexander Alekhine wins the Hastings tournament with 7 1/2/10, ahead of Rubinstein (7), Bogoljubow and Thomas (4 1/2). This is the critical last-round game:
E. Bogoljubow - A. Alekhine, Hastings 1922
click for larger view
After some rather feeble play by White (just look at his ridiculous kingside set-up!), Alekhine has established a commanding position. 28...Nd3 29.Rxa5 b4! 30.Rxa8 bxc3!? <30...Qxa8 31.Qb3 Qa1 32.Nf1 Ra8 33.Nb2 Ra3 34.Qd1 Ng4 wins in more straighforward fashion.> 33... c1Q+ 34.Nf1 Alekhine has effectively exchanged two rooks for a queen. The white pieces are hopelessly uncoordinated, and Black's mate threats will win material. 38...Nf3+ <38...Qe2 is also good.> 41...Kg8 <41...h5? 42.Nh3 gives white some undeserved counterplay.> 47.Rd2 Qe2 Forcing a won king and pawn ending. 0-1.
Earlier that same year, Bogo won the Bad Pistyan tournament with a 1/2 point ahead of Alekhine.
|Feb-26-13|| ||Lutwidge: While I like this game in kind of "well, that's novel" kind of way, it does feel sort of overrated - Bogo seems like he's constructing a self-stalemate on the kingside while Alekhine graciously consents to completely smush White's queenside (and center) in a vaguely piquant manner.|
|Oct-30-13|| ||Vincenze: White 52. f5 =|
|Oct-30-13|| ||Sastre: <Vincenze: White 52. f5 =>|
White is still lost after 52.f5 d5 53.Kd2 Ke7 54.Kd3 Kd6 55.Kd4 Kc6 56.Kd3 Kc5 57.Kc3 d4+ 58.Kd3 Kd5 59.Kd2 Ke4 60.Ke2 Kxf5.
|Jul-26-14|| ||Mudphudder: I'm confused. Why did Alekhine make it more complicated than necessary?...specifically, what was wrong with 47...Qxf4 ?|
|Jul-27-14|| ||aliejin: "I'm confused. Why did Alekhine make it more complicated than necessary? "|
Maybe not complicated for Alekhine...
Like every great chess player Alekhine
had his style ..
|Jul-27-14|| ||tamar: The non stop combinations up to the end does suggest an over the top Robin Williams' approach to chess. He is not content to win, but wants to totally humiliate Bogoljubow.|
Still, 47...Qe2 does lead to an absolutely forced won King and pawn endgame, while 47...Qf4 still leaves White with the rudiments of a fortress position.
|Jul-27-14|| ||Nicocobas: <tamar> Robin Williams?|
|Jul-27-14|| ||tamar: <Nicocobas> Your guy was more of the Jack Benny type.|
|Jul-27-14|| ||tamar: Bogoljubow was Rodney Dangerfield.|
|Jul-27-14|| ||Sally Simpson: A last round game. Alekhine had to win this because he was tying with Rubinstein who was playing George Thomas and expected to win. Rubinstein eventually drew it after trying for over 100 moves to win it.|
Rubinstein vs G A Thomas, 1922
I doubt if he was trying humiliate Bogoljubow, he was going for the win and chasing the brillo prize.
As Fischer says, they don't give Brilliancy prizes for technique.
Alekhine liked to go for the spectacular. I recall an Alekhine note where he says one move is easier to play but the text, the chosen move, was played because it was more classy.
(Now I'll have to go and dig it out.)
|Jul-28-14|| ||Ke2: Seriously weird.|
|Aug-14-14|| ||posoo: eerie forshadoweing|
|Mar-07-15|| ||thegoodanarchist: <Sally Simpson: A last round game. Alekhine had to win this because he was tying with Rubinstein who was playing George Thomas and expected to win. Rubinstein eventually drew it after trying for over 100 moves to win it.|
Rubinstein vs G A Thomas, 1922
I doubt if he was trying humiliate Bogoljubow, he was going for the win and chasing the brillo prize.>
It would be funny if the trophy were a Brillo pad :)!
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