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|May-19-08|| ||Petrosianic: Yeah, that's right. Capablanca-Tarrasch was the very next game, wasn't it?
I don't <think> he lost two in a row at A.V.R.O., but I'm not absolutely sure.|
|May-19-08|| ||keypusher: <Petrosianic>
<Yeah, that's right. Capablanca-Tarrasch was the very next game, wasn't it?>
Yes. Capa went on to beat Marshall and Alekhine in the last two rounds.
<I don't [i]think[/i] he lost two in a row at A.V.R.O., but I'm not absolutely sure.>
I checked <Benzol>'s AVRO tournament collection and you're right -- Capa did not lose two in a row there.
|May-19-08|| ||Calli: JRC's AVRO losses came in rds 6,9,11 and 14 - no consecutive losses.|
|May-19-08|| ||RookFile: I don't know if lopezexchange's line is forced, but it does appear that Capablanca missed an opportunity for some sort of advantage with 21... Rxc5.|
|May-10-09|| ||WhiteRook48: 41. Rc1!! is a great pin.
Capablanca had held the lead after 10 games in the match, but Alekhine overtook him, scoring victories in this one and game 11
|Aug-14-09|| ||WhiteRook48: pins!|
|Sep-03-09|| ||WhiteRook48: 37 f4|
|Sep-02-10|| ||Dupin: I actually consider 33...Rc3 to be the beginning of the mistake by Capablanca. The problem lies in the fact that white's bishop will soon be able to attack the only defender of the black rook, the black knight on e4. By centralizing the queen, Capablanca seeks to defend the rook, but I think the rook is already in trouble at that time. He should have retreated the rook after 34. Qb2, but that might of course be psychologically difficult; moving back immediately. After 34..Qc7 35. Nc5 he is in big trouble. Instead of 36... Qe5 he could have played Rc4, but then Bd3 would lose the exchange. Capablanca does see the pin, I am sure of it, but at that stage the rook is in deep trouble nonetheless. I believe the game to be lost after 34.. Qc7, instead of moving the exposed rook out of the way.|
I also react on the move 22.Nb7 by Alekhine, as others have done before me here. I do not see the point of exchanging a powerful knight on a nice outpost with a very bad bishop on b7. Maybe Alekhine had some sort of intention with it; I cannot see it however.
|Sep-05-11|| ||lost in space: The worse game in this WC match. 21...Rxc5! was missed and 34..Qc7 was a patzer move, fitting my niveau and style, but not Capa like.|
|Sep-05-11|| ||Petrosianic: <The worse game in this WC match.>|
For evidence of that, it's the only victory that Alekhine didn't bother putting in <My Best Games of Chess>.
|Sep-06-11|| ||aliejin: "the worse game in this WC match"
This is a typical example of malicious statement (or clumsy)
"worse" implies that the other games were bad and this the worst
Fortunately all we know that it is one
of the biggest events in the history of chess
The game is extremely interesting from a sporting point of view and psychological
|Sep-06-11|| ||Petrosianic: His English isn't perfect (note "worse" instead of "worst"). Even if the words weren't quite right, his meaning was clear: this was the least impressive victory by either player. Since all 3 Capa wins are in Capablanca's 100 Best Games of Chess, and 5 of the 6 Alekhine wins are in My Best Games of Chess, it's a reasonable enough statement. This is the only decisive game in the match that I've never seen anthologized.|
|Sep-06-11|| ||whiteshark: <NYaGM <Here Alekhine provides the answer: Capablanca simply overlooked 37 f2-f4!>> |
In his annotations to this game Aljechin called <34...Qc7?> the ultimate mistake, that lead to a quick defeat. He said that at this point it was the last chance to retreat the rook to c7, although even then the black position is already considerably bad.
|Sep-06-11|| ||Petrosianic: It's also the only White victory for Alekhine in the first 31 games. His others were all with Black.|
But it might be interesting to do an analysis of the position after 34...Rc7. White's better, but I think Black can hold it.
|Sep-06-11|| ||whiteshark: A possible explanation why Alekhine didn't put it in his best games collection is that he thought that <17.Ne5?> was not only a bad move that spoiled his excellent winning chances <but should have led to some disadvantageous position after <21... Rxc5!>>.|
(I think this highlightened circumstance didn't allow it for him)
|Sep-06-11|| ||Petrosianic: The previous game wasn't really one of his best either. Too many missed chances on both sides. But there's no way such a slugfest could have been left out. It's exactly the kind of game people want to see annotated.|
|Sep-06-11|| ||aliejin: "this was the least impressive victory by either player."
To my taste This sentence is quite right
There are a lot of games in the chess history absent from collection "best games" ,that are fantastic. surely NO perfect games , from ideal point of view , but
rich from others point of view
In this game we see one capablanca practically never seen
from emotions point of view
|Sep-06-11|| ||lost in space: <This is a typical example of malicious statement (or clumsy) "worse" implies that the other games were bad and this the worst>|
Maybe I expressed myself badly. I tried to say that this game was of lower quality compared to the others (from both sides, btw). This does not mean that the other games were bad - only that this game has a lower quality.
|Feb-26-12|| ||The Curious Emblem: <Marmot PFL: This is strange. White's KN moves 5 times to trade for black's "bad bishop" with no evident advantage. Maybe it's psychology - it looks like Alekhine is playing for the draw so Capablanca goes to sleep.> White must have thought about opening up the game with e4 at some point (before changing his mind), and decided that he didn't want Black's light-squared Bishop alive when that happens.|
|May-27-12|| ||MindCtrol9: After reviewing some games of Capablanca,especially the games #s 11 and 12,I have the feeling that Capa was not in his optimal shape at the moment like this game when the move <21. ...RXC5> was,in my opinion,a good one having a Knight on <c4> and open the diagonal for the <DSB>I would not hesitate to give up the exchange when a piece is bothering me too much and making me to play too passive.It is a shame that Alekhine never gave him a remach.Capablanca kept playing after he lost the title like what he was,simple the best.|
|May-28-12|| ||maxi: In his book "On the Road to the World Championship" Alekhine also mentions the move 12...Rxc5!. It is truly remarkable how all of Black forces come alive after this exchange sacrifice. Funny for Capa to miss this move.|
|May-28-12|| ||Dr. J: After 21...Rxc5 22 b4 Nxa3, why not 23 Qb3?|
|Nov-01-12|| ||notyetagm: Game Collection: PINS! PINS! PINS! PINS! PINS! PINS! PINS! PINS!|
|Feb-22-13|| ||tivrfoa: How can a "genius" overlook 35. Nc5? And it was not the first blunder in the match.|
|Feb-22-13|| ||RookFile: He was out too late with the girls the night before.|
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