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|Jan-15-06|| ||Gregor Samsa Mendel: I only wish I could have "oops!" moments in games like the ones cited on the Euwe page, or in this one: Euwe vs H Steiner, 1946.|
|Jan-16-06|| ||kevin86: I loved the pun-too bad the game wasn't played in DALLAS.|
Euwe makes an unpardonable blunder and gets "mangled" by the Machine.
|Jan-16-06|| ||Calli: Capablanca gives rather extensive notes for this game. He notes that Euwe's error of Re6 was caused by time trouble. The time control was 32 moves for the match. |
So to all you kibitzers trying feel superior to the GMs or pile on Euwe, I say
|Jan-17-06|| ||CapablancaFan: These kind of blunders at GM level play is rarely seen. Did Euwe have a senior moment or what?|
|Feb-18-06|| ||raydot: <blingice>I know Euve was world champ. |
My point: I think when you ask people who their all time favorite chess players are, "Max Euve" doesn't spring to the lips. I also don't think he was a better player overall than Capa was.
|Apr-30-06|| ||patzer2: After 30...Re6??, Capa plays 31. Ng5+! to with a simple fork and pin combination. Euwe should have played 30...Nc7 instead.|
|May-29-06|| ||beatgiant: <patzer2>
After the suggested 30...Nc7, White can increase the positional advantage with <31. h6> breaking up the kingside. For example, 30...Nc7 31. h6 Nd5 32. hxg7 Kxg7 33. Rh5, etc.
To avoid that, Black may play 30...h6, after which White could try to break through with <31. Bxh6> ending with several pawns for a piece.
|Jan-04-07|| ||paladin at large: My, 16. Ne2 is a cool move - followed by move after move where Capablanca not only meets Euwe's threats, but continuously, it seems, improves his position. The black knight is hopelessly out of place on a6. 19. Qb1 is wise, to exchange queens, thereby defusiing the nasty threat of 19....Re8.|
|Jan-04-07|| ||CapablancaFan: <paladin at large> Glad to see your still here. I agree with everything you said. Funny thing is that Euwe's king is tucked safely away while Capa's king is stuck in the middle, but look how he solves the problem. After 17...Nxe3 <Notice that if 18.Bxe3? Re8 regains the piece with interest.> 18.Qxb7! An extremely difficult move to find. This was not an attack on the rook, but to merely buy a tempo to play 19.Qb1! This forces queens off the board as any other move loses the knight!|
|Apr-12-07|| ||whiteshark: <30. Bc1?> De enige winstvoortzetting bestond in 30. h6 Rxe4 31. fxe4 g6 32. Rb5! cxb5 33. ab5|
|Jan-18-08|| ||paladin at large: <whiteshark> Yeah, Capa said that was a bad move and that he should have followed through with his kingside assault. Capa's very interesting annotation to this game is appended to a duplicate game on this very same site.|
|May-25-09|| ||YoungEd: I'm with <calli>. These are the most expansive notes I've ever seen from Capablanca, with the most actual variations. This is an interesting game!|
|May-25-09|| ||capatal: (IIRC), Euwe said, "Capablanca does not make moves, but paints a picture with his pieces."|
|May-25-09|| ||Samagonka: Very good notes by Capablanca. Free chess tution.|
|May-25-09|| ||randomsac: I agree with everybody in saying that the annotations are very instructive.|
|May-25-09|| ||WhiteRook48: sometimes I miss these knight forks myself|
|May-25-09|| ||visayanbraindoctor: Capablanca’s notes make the game look so simple, yet it’s not. For example, Capablanca did not make any comment after 13. g4, yet there are probably many players who would not dare play this move, or go into a line that enters into this move, as it apparently weakens White’s Kingside at a moment when Black has a possibly dangerous attack coming. For example, after 13. g4, Black has a possible target which he can hit with an eventual f5. In the ensuing complications, Capa navigated his way through without an error until 30. Bc1 (which he himself pointed out) which not surprisingly was just two moves before time control, when many errors occur. In order to play 13. g4, Capa would have to seriously think ahead trying to calculate everything after both 13… Be6 (the move he recommended), and 13… Bd3, the move which Euwe actually played. IMO probably most players would choose 13… Bd3, like Euwe did, as it gives Black a dangerous attack and is not really a blunder.|
A fascinating thought is that Capablanca could have seen the resource 19. Qb1 even before he entered into the 13. g4 line.
Another interesting thought is to give the position after 13. g4 to two GMs who have never seen this game, and see how they would play it out. Would some such hypothetical games even end up in a Black victory, and how many would end in draws?
There are naturally reactions to Euwe’s blunder at the end. The blunder somewhat spoils the game’s aesthetic value, and we miss out on another Capablanca endgame lesson. Capablanca himself seems disappointed that Euwe blundered; his notes indicate he was eager to demonstrate a White win.
|May-25-09|| ||Chessmensch: Don't blast Euwe too much. Worse has happened, and not long ago. Remember Kramnik vs. Deep Fritz? Deep Fritz vs Kramnik, 2006|
|May-25-09|| ||RandomVisitor: After 25.Nh5!
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[+2.09] d=14 25...Rb6 26.a5 Rxb5 27.Rxb5 c6 28.Rb7 Ra8 29.Rd7 Kf8
[+2.33] d=14 25...Rc6 26.Rg5 Rg6 27.Rb7 Rxg5 28.Bxg5 Ra8 29.Bf4 Na5 30.Rb5 Nc4 31.Bxc7 Nxc7 32.Rc5 Nd5 33.Rxc4 g6 34.Rc5 Nxc3 35.Rxc3 gxh5 36.gxh5 Rb8 37.Rc7 a6 38.d5 Rd8 39.Rc5 Kf8
[+2.86] d=14 25...Rfe6 26.Rb7
|May-26-09|| ||RandomVisitor: After 13...Be6
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[+0.05] d=18 14.Ne2 Nd7 15.Bxd6 cxd6 16.Nf4 Qf6 17.Kf2 Nb6 18.Bd3 Rac8 19.Rab1 Qe7 20.Kg2 g5 21.Nh5 f5 22.h3 Qf7
|May-26-09|| ||kevin86: Euwe was to be champion in a few years-so better play is ahead for the Hollander.|
|Oct-25-09|| ||Jonathan Sarfati: There are parallels to Capablanca vs Euwe, 1938, where Capa likewise gained a positional advantage, and hacked through the complications Euwe generated to score a good won.|
|Aug-13-11|| ||positionalgenius: Rf5! Typical capablanca|
|Feb-06-12|| ||RookFile: Capablancs calculates well, as usual.|
|Jul-16-12|| ||FSR: Fun fact: Capablanca and Lasker both had a +3 score against Euwe. In Capablanca's case, that was +3 over 18 games (+4 =13 -1). http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... In Lasker's case, it was +3 over <three games>. http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... And Lasker had the disadvantage of being 20 years older than Capablanca. Did I mention that Lasker was a god?|
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