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| Jul-11-17 | | Petrosianic: <beatgiant>: <Several kibitzers, including myself, posted winning ideas way back on page 1 of the kibitzing.> Well, really the only winning idea is for White's king to infiltrate on the Queenside. But that way is good enough. |
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Jul-11-17
 | | beatgiant: <Petrosianic>
<the only winnilng idea is for White's king to infiltrate on the Queenside>Another way is to engineer pawn breakthroughs to create a passed pawn, as in the sample line I posted <Oct-30-05>. If you see a flaw in that plan, feel free to post it - I'm always ready to learn something. |
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Jul-12-17
 | | FSR: <Petrosianic> Pick, pick, pick. |
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| Jun-03-18 | | morfishine: If I'm not mistaken, Capa could've claimed draw by threefold repetition, unless that rule was not in effect yet or if I'm simply mistaken. No time to tell now though, too much stuff happening! |
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Jun-03-18
| | beatgiant: <morfishine>
See B Verlinsky vs Ilyin-Zhenevsky, 1925 for a long discussion of the history of threefold repetition rules. |
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Jun-03-18
| | beatgiant: <morfishine>
As for the current game: the position 
click for larger view occurs after White's 52nd and 56th and Black's 59th move, but in the first two it's <White's turn> and the last one it's <Black's turn> so the third one doesn't match. |
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Jun-03-18
| | beatgiant: <morfishine> I misstated the turns above (in the first two it's <Black's turn> and in the last one it's <White's turn>, but it's still true that the third one doesn't match. |
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| Jun-04-18 | | morfishine: Thanks <beatgiant>! What's confusing is the repeated identical positions do not have to be in sequence! My Gawd, who can keep track of that? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three... ***** |
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Jun-11-20
 | | kingscrusher: I video annotated this game here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Oy...
Hope that is useful - Cheers, K |
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| Dec-20-20 | | schnarre: ...Thought there was going to be a draw by repetition numerous times in this game. |
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Dec-20-20
 | | Check It Out: Lasker's attack developed so quickly and easily; the moves nearly played themselves. But then, it transitioned in to a drawn out maneuvering affair, Q vs R and B, that Lasker eventually won after adjournment. Its the distinct contrast between the opening, furious middle game attack, and drawn out ending that strike me most about this game between two seasoned and heaviest of heavyweight chess champions. This picture of the actual game that <Tabanus> posted nails the whole thing in an amazing image:
http://sah.hr/forum/index.php?actio... |
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| Dec-21-20 | | SChesshevsky: <Lasker's attack developed so quickly and easily...> Think it was helped by Capablanca's lousy and mystifying 13...c6. Which basically entombed the LSB. Have to believe he had plans for its release but greatly missed something. Maybe the 17. Qc2 sequence and then the h pawn push was unexpected and threw everything off? |
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Dec-21-20
| | Check It Out: <SChesshevsky> I'm thinking 13...c6 was to protect the pawn from white's DSB and that Capablanca was planning to free his LSB with the pawn break ...e5. 15.Rad1 (as well as occupying the e5 square) squashed that move with a veiled threat against black's queen and the ...e6 pawn sat there the rest of the game. |
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| Dec-21-20 | | WorstPlayerEver: After 13. 0-0 Black is in a bad position. |
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| Dec-23-20 | | schnarre: ...<WorstPlayerEver> Indeed! White has free & active piece play very early on in this game. |
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| Dec-23-20 | | RookFile: The unbelievable Lasker, in his mid 60's, goes undefeated against world class players, beats Capa, and finishes 3rd in the tournament. |
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| Aug-12-22 | | Koenigsblitz: <john barleycorn>: <64....Kc7 65.Qg3+ Kc8 66.Kd3 Rh5 67.Kc3 Rf5 68.Kb4 Rh5 69.c5 Rd5 70.Ka5 Rxd4 71.Kb6> At the end of that line 71.... Kd8 72. Qg5+ Ke8 73. Qg8+ Ke7 74. Qg7+ wins the rook on d4. |
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| Nov-27-22 | | Synchsynch: I believe Capablanca lost many times to Lasker since their world championship match of 1921. It seems to me Lasker's strength was in finding problem like moves. Capablanca probably played too much blitz against patzers, which he was renowned to do, winning a lot. His results improved a lot too I think when the Russians showed him the benefits of the Sicilian defence, so I read somewhere. Leastways, he then came to the fore again in the late1930's. |
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| Nov-27-22 | | Synchsynch: I thought, is he heading for a draw too?! Amazing that the position occurred three times, but not a draw! Remarkable. :)) Perhaps he was lighting another cigar, while working out what to do. |
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Nov-27-22
| | beatgiant: <Synchsynch>
See my kibitz of Jun-03-18 above. This event used an old rule for draw by repetition: the sequence of moves must repeat, not only the position. |
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| Mar-16-23 | | Ulhumbrus: One observation: After White has advanced his h pawn to h5 he does not exchange it immediately but leaves it there and develops his remaining pieces instead. He plays the capture hxg6 only when he is about to make a combination. |
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| May-11-23 | | N.O.F. NAJDORF: 30...Qe7 31. Qh8+ Rg8 32. Qxg8+ Kxg8 33. Bh7+ Kh8 34. Bg8# Could black not have played:
30...Qf4 31. Rf3 Qc1+ 32. Kh2 Rd7 ? |
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| May-11-23 | | N.O.F. NAJDORF: 39...Kd6 40. c5+ Kd5 41. Qe4+ Kc4 42. Ke2 Rg2 43. f4 Rh2 44. Ke3 Rh3+ 45. f3 f5 46. Qd3+ Kd5 47. Qb3# |
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| May-11-23 | | Amarande: <beatgiant: This event used an old rule for draw by repetition: the sequence of moves must repeat, not only the position.> Probably still the <de facto> situation OTB, I'd imagine. Unlike the 50 move rule (which can be checked by a glance at the scoresheet), how likely is it that even masters will have kept track of a 3rd repetition with irregular move sequences/considerable time between instances (unless actively aiming at such a draw, perhaps)? Especially with the frenetic pace that modern time controls enforce on endgame, for that matter ... Online, of course, the computer can easily verify. |
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May-11-23
| | beatgiant: <Amarande> Not only must the position match, but it must also be the same player's turn to move, which wasn't the case in the current game (see earlier kibitzes above). Yes, this can be difficult to ascertain over the board. |
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