| Mar-05-05 | | ArturoRivera: mmm, i wonder why Fischer would agree a draw so easily, any commenaries here? |
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Mar-05-05
 | | tpstar: With even material plus Bishops of opposite color, Fischer knew their game would Panno out into a draw ... Such an early draw usually indicates their opponent stands better. |
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| Mar-06-05 | | ArturoRivera: i mean agree the draw by playing Bxc5, cause the bishop pair is quiete and advantage in the endgame i think |
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| Aug-26-05 | | RookFile: I wouldn't be surprised if Bobby was somewhat low in time. Panno had actually outplayed him in the opening. |
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| Aug-26-05 | | Runemaster: <Arturo> I'm very late in responding, but I've only just seen this game - <RookFile>'s post drew my attention to it. I think Fischer had to play 21.Bxc5, as the threat was 21...a4 trapping the bishop. If he plays 21.a3 or 21.a4 to give the bishop space to move, then it is unprotected and lost. If he moves the queen to free up the bishop, 21...Nxb3 wins a pawn. After 21.Bxc5 Qxc5+ and perhaps 22.Qf2, the position does look drawish. Fischer's plan, as he said, in the 1958 Interzonal, was to draw with the stronger players and beat the others, so he was probably happy enough with the result in this game. There are some unusually (for him) short draws in that tournament, but then Fischer was only 15, playing in his first major international event - and his strategy worked well enough, as he qualified for the Candidates. |
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| Aug-26-05 | | Shams: I've never liked to see 8...Qb6 in the dragon. Which is a better reply, 9.Bb3 or 9.Nf5? |
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| Aug-26-05 | | Runemaster: <Shams> Don't know, sorry - you need to find a Dragon slayer to answer that one. |
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| Aug-26-05 | | Dres1: Nf5 is bad and black just plays Qxb2 |
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| Aug-26-05 | | Shams: <Dres1> you're right, I was thinking of positions where black hadn't castled-- in that case white takes the dragon bishop with check and ends up down a pawn but with the bishop pair. Here it is simply bad. I need to spend a week and just learn every move-order trick in the dragon. |
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| Sep-04-09 | | jerseybob: Shams: In lines where black plays d6(instead of 0-0) somewhere in his first 7 moves, 8..Qb6 is a known move and white can answer 9.Nf5 or Bb5. In this setting, 8.f3 is considered by some to be an error(Bb3 is recommended), and 8..Qb6! sets white some problems. Fischer does quite well to wiggle out. Did Panno miss a stronger line somewhere? |
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| Sep-06-09 | | ToTheDeath: 9.Bb3 leads to equality with best play. Black does have ways to sharpen the play (14...Rfe8) but generally the line is drawish. |
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| Sep-06-09 | | ToTheDeath: 9...Ng4!? is an interesting alternative. |
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| Sep-09-09 | | jerseybob: Playing white I blundered into this line in a tournament game in 1970 before I'd ever seen Fischer-Panno. It went: 8.f3,Qb6 9.Bb5??!,Ne4?(Ng4!) 10.Nd5,Qc5 11.Nxc6,Qxb5 12.N6e7ch,Kh8 13.fxe4 and white won. In Fischer-Panno, your suggested 9..Ng4!? is the move I was thinking of too. |
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Feb-06-12
 | | FSR: The way Soltis writes about this line (most recently in Chess Life, February 2012, p. 16), you get the impression that White is losing or very close to it after 8.f3 (his question mark) Qb6! Soltis likes 9...Ng4 better than Panno's 9...Nxe4. But if White knows what he's doing, he can draw after either move. Opening Explorer |
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Feb-06-12
| | FSR: Donaldson and Silman in their 1998 book <Accelerated Dragons> give 9...Nxe4 an exclam, while Soltis gives it "?!" But in either event D & S say that 9.Bb3 gives White "a perfectly playable game!" |
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| Dec-28-13 | | paulofx2071: why this game is in the notables games of Panno? why is special? |
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Sep-16-24
| | FSR: <paulofx2071> A game becomes a "Notable Game" just by being featured in a number of people's game collections. It doesn't necessarily mean that it's a great game. |
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Sep-16-24
 | | perfidious: The point is moot in any case; this game is no longer listed as being 'notable'. |
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Sep-16-24
| | FSR: Sometime in the same year (1957) Donald Byrne played the Accelerated Dragon against Fischer in a lightning game at the Manhattan Chess Club. That game went 5.Nc3 Bg7 6.Be3 Nf6 7.f3 O-O 8.Qd2 d5! Black had equalized and went on to win a crushing victory. Fischer vs D Byrne, 1957. I'm not certain which came first, but given that Fischer handled the Accelerated Dragon better in the present game, my guess is that the Byrne game predated this one. The Maroczy Bind, 5.c4, is considered theoretically best, but wasn't really Bobby's style. He did play it thrice in 1961, but only drew those games: a quick draw with Benko in the penultimate round of the 1960/61 U.S. Championship, and two games against Reshevsky in their famous match. https://www.chessgames.com/perl/che.... In 1971, in his Candidates matches against Larsen and Petrosian, he scored 1.5/2 from the black side of it. https://www.chessgames.com/perl/che.... Two rounds before, Bobby had played the Yugoslav Attack against Larsen's Dragon, and won what became a famous game, featured in his <My 60 Memorable Games>. Fischer vs B Larsen, 1958. He explained there that White simply had to "pry open the h-file" and "sac, sac, mate!" But see Fischer vs C Munoz, 1960, where that strategy failed against Fischer's unheralded opponent. Fischer was hoping to do the same thing to Panno that he'd done to Larsen, but first he improved on his game against Donald Byrne with 7.Bc4! rather than 7.f3. Now after 7...O-O, the accurate move would have been 8.Bb3! Then after 8...d6 9.f3 he'd have his Yugoslav Attack. E.g., J A Esquivel Leon vs F Rhine, 2023. But this subtlety was almost unknown at the time. CG's database shows only one game before this one where White had found 8.Bb3!: Fischer's compatriot Edmar Mednis had done so a month before this game in E Mednis vs G Palmason, 1957. Fischer instead played the natural 8.f3?! and was unpleasantly surprised by 8...Qb6! That was also close to a novelty, with only one prior game in the database: V Zagorovsky vs Simagin, 1951. Fischer presumably didn't know of that game, or of Mednis's. No Chess Informants back then. After 8...Qb6, Black has a slew of threats: 9...Nxe4, 9...Qxb2, and 9...Ng4. It is easy for White to go wrong, for example 9.Qd2? Nxe4! with a big advantage. Fischer kept his head, playing the best move 9.Bb3! After 9...Nxe4 (9...Ng4!? is also playable) 10.Nd5! Qa5+ 11.c3 Nc5 12.Nxc6 dxc6 13.Nxe7+ Kh8 14.Nxc8 Fischer had recovered his pawn and equalized. Crisis averted. |
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