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David Janowski vs Friedrich Saemisch
Marienbad (1925), Marienbad CZE, rd 13
Torre Attack: Classical Defense (A46)  ·  1-0


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  Phony Benoni: Be careful!
Jun-07-17  kungfufighter888: Mate in two moves
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  offramp: <Domdaniel: <sleepyirv> Close. The Alain Resnais film is <L'Annee Derniere a Marienbad>: Last Year in Marienbad.>

The odd thing is that in English the film has two titles: in the US it's called <Last Year at Marienbad> and in the UK it is called <Last Year in Marienbad>.

Strange but true.

Jun-07-17  lentil: 20. ... f6 seems to give W some chances to go wrong.
Jun-07-17  Walter Glattke: Reading live master analysis, found myself :20.Qh6 f6 (20.-gxh6 21.Rg3#) 21.Bh7+ Kf7 22.Qg6+ Ke6 23.Qf5+ Ke7 24.Bxd6+ Qxd6 (24.-Kxd6 25.0-0-0+ K + R not moved before) 25.Re3+ Kd8 26.Rd1 rook for queen wins or 21.Bc4+ Re7 25.Bxf7+ Kxf7
26.Qxh5+ g6 27.Qh7+
Jun-07-17  Walter Glattke: 21.Rg3 Bxe5 22.Bh7+ Kf7 23.Rxg7+ Ke8
24.Rxc7 wins
Jun-07-17  stst: Don't see any defense to 20.Qh6
IF (A)........gxQ, 21.Rg3#
IF (B)........BxB, 21.Qh7#
IF (C)........g6, 21.Qh8#
IF (D)........Qxc3+, 21.cxQ and repeat one of (A)-(C)
Jun-07-17  lentil: It's NOT #/2 after 20. .. f6. <Walter Glattke>: like I said, it gives W chances to go wrong. At MY "skill" level, I'd at least force W to demonstrate the win.
Jun-07-17  Walter Glattke: There is a life master AJ link above, and there is shown the match and an analysis, beginning with 20..Qh6 f6 and no quick mate, not only me found escape from the quick mate.
Jun-07-17  Walter Glattke: Oops, 21.Rg3 Be5 not 22.Bh7+ Kh8! helps, but 22.Qh7+ Kf7 23.Rxg7+
Jun-07-17  groog: Yup, I looked at 20....f6. It wins, but not the quick mate.
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  offramp: <Phony Benoni: This was apparently the Game of the Day for Oct-22-04. Does anyone happen to recall what the pun was?>

<tpstar: <Phony Benoni> I believe they used "The Masterpiece of Marienbad"...>

Normally, if a game has been Game of the Day the title stays with the game forever. But this game's title seems to have dropped off. It could be connected to the fact that this game is now part of the Marienbad (1925) tournament page.

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  Lambda: One of those puzzles where it's not quite clear what the best way to proceed after 20... f6 is, but it is completely clear that you've found the best move, so you just play it and think about your next move afterwards. Unless your opponent conveniently resigns.
Jun-07-17  leRevenant: Wednesday queensac.
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  morfishine: Seen this one <20.Qh6>

In Chernev's book 'The Best 1,000 Best Short Games of Chess' he comments "Where did that come from?"

The double-attack on <g7> & <h7> is pleasing


Jun-07-17  saturn2: I got 20 Qh6 threatening Qg(h)7++

20..gxQ is mate by rook

20..f6(5) 21 Bh7 Kf7 22 Bg6 Ke7 23 Qxg7 Kd8 24 QxQ wins a bishop

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  whiteshark: <morfishine: The double-attack on <g7> & <h7> is pleasing> Yes, indeed!
Jun-07-17  mel gibson: The computer says:

Qh6 (20. Qh6 (♕e3-h6 f7-f6 ♕h6-h7+ ♔g8-f7 ♗e5xd6 ♕c7xd6 ♖h3-e3 ♕d6xd3 ♕h7xd3 ♖a8-d8 ♕d3-c4+ ♗b7-d5 ♕c4-c7+ ♔f7-g8 ♖e3-e7 ♖d8-e8 O-O-O ♖e8xe7 ♕c7xe7 ♗d5xa2 ♕e7xa7 ♗a2-e6 ♕a7xb6 ♗e6-f5 ♖d1-d8 ♗f5-g6 ♖d8xf8+ ♔g8xf8 ♕b6-d6+ ♔f8-f7 ♕d6-d5+) +10.07/15 158)

score for white +10.07 depth 15

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  agb2002: White has an extra pawn.

Black threatens Bxe5.

The squares g7 and h7 are vulnerable and White can attack them with 20.Qh6:

A) 20... gxh6 21.Rg3#.

B) 20... f5 21.Bc4+ Qxc4 (or 21... Rf7) 22.Qxg7#.

C) 20... f6 21.Bh7+

C.1) 21... Kf7 22.Qxh5+

C.1.a) 22... Ke6 23.Qf5+

C.1.a.i) 23... Kd5 24.O-O-O+ wins.

C.1.a.ii) 23... Ke7 24.Bxd6+ Qxd6 (24... Kxd6 25.O-O-O+ Ke7 -25... Kc6 26.Qd5#- 26.Re3+ Kf7 27.Qg6#) 25.Re3+ Kd8 (25... Kf7 26.Qg6#) 26.Rd1 wins.

C.1.a.iii) 23... g6 24.Bxg6+ Kg8 (24... Kg7 25.Qh7#; 24... Ke7 25.Bxd6+ is similar to C.1.a.ii) 25.Bxd6 Rfe8+ (25... Qxd6 26.Qh7#) 26.Kf1 wins decisive material (26... Ba6+ 27.Kg1 Qxd6 28.Qh7+ Kf8 29.Qf7#).

C.1.b) 22... Ke7 23.Bxd6+ is similar to C.1.a.ii.

C.1.c) 22... g6 23.Qxg6+ is similar to previous lines.

C.2) 21... Kh8 22.Qxh5

C.2.a) 22... fxe5 23.Bg6+ Kg8 24.Qh7#.

C.2.b) 22... Rfd8 23.Bc2+ Kg8 24.Bb3+ Kf8 25.Qh8+ Ke7 26.Qxg7+ Ke8 27.Qxc7 Bxc7 28.Bxc7 + - [B+3P].

C.2.c) 22... Rfe8 23.Bg6+ Kg8 24.Bxe8 wins decisive material.

C.2.d) 22... Rfc8 23.Bc2+ Kg8 24.Bb3+ Kf8 25.Bxd6+ wins (25... Qxd6 26.Qf7#).

C.2.e) 22... g6(5) 23.Bg6+ as in C.1.a.iii.

Jun-07-17  StevieB: Seems more like a Monday puzzle.
Jun-07-17  Walter Glattke: Mel Gibson, I am surprised about Bxd6 Qc7xd6 - I wonder, what the between check Bxd6 Rad8+ would do.
Jun-07-17  Walter Glattke: Rae8+
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  gawain: I did not notice Black's reply 20...f6.
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Jun-07-17  Walter Glattke: Unbroken chess chain: in the match Kramnik vs. Meier, Dortmund 2012, to see here in Chess Games, Kramnik played 24.Bxf7+ Kxf7 28.Qh5+ g6 29.Qxh7+ Kf6,and then 30.Nxd4 Nxd4?? If Meier had played the possible counter check with 30.-Rxe1+ 31.Rxe1 Qxd6 then Meier was nearly at draw, after taking back Nxd4 Nxd4 he lost. So I was surprised about the Computer. "Who" played like Kramnik with Bxd6 Qxd6 without Bxd6 Rae8+.
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