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Karl Mayet vs Philipp Hirschfeld
Berlin (1861), Berlin GER
King's Gambit: Accepted. Mayet Gambit (C38)  ·  0-1


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Nov-10-14  Doniez: More than the easy puzzle (it's Monday again), I was surprised by the position when I saw that only 12 moves were played.
Nov-10-14  Dr. J: <Honey Blend: 12. ... Qh4 13. Bxf4! Qg4 14. Bh6+ looks like there's still a fight going on.For example, 14. ... Ke7 15. Bg5+! ...>

Instead 14...Ke8 settles it. (15 Qxf3 Rg1+)

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  morfishine: Black has a forced mate: <12...Rxh2+> 13. Kxh2 Qh4+ 14.Kg1 Qg3+ 15.Kh1 Qg2#
Nov-10-14  Honey Blend: <Dr. J: <Honey Blend: 12. ... Qh4 13. Bxf4! Qg4 14. Bh6+ looks like there's still a fight going on.For example, 14. ... Ke7 15. Bg5+! ...>

Instead 14...Ke8 settles it. (15 Qxf3 Rg1+)>

14. ... ♔e8 15. ♕b5+ c6 16. ♕g5 ♕xg5 17. ♗xg5 ♖xg5 18. ♖xf3 will probably be the continuation and Black is winning. My point though, is that 12. ... ♕h4 also wins as stated by previous kibitzers, but definitely not as forcing as the ♖-sac.

Nov-10-14  zb2cr: The most forcing continuation is the simple 12. ... Rxh2+; 13. Kxh2, Qh4+; 14. Kg1, Qg3+; 15. Kh1, Qg2#.
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  Penguincw: Not a very hard mate (I got this puzzle, unlike last week's), but it was longer than most Mondays.
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  Oxspawn: Good fun. After the rook sacrifices the queen behaves like a knight, one square a time. Nice of white to let the mate happen.
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  mjmorri: Talk about castling into it!!
Nov-10-14  Cheapo by the Dozen: Continuing the discussion of the 12 ... Qh4 line, after

12 ... Qh4
13 Bxf4 Qg4
14 Qe3

Black has a pawn in hand, but I'm not immediately seeing how his attack punches through. And since White threatens 15 Rxf3, he may be able to equalize material.

h2 and g1 are defended.

If 14 ... f2, then 15 Bg3 looks viable.

Developing White's remaining knight would also connect his rooks.

... Qh3 isn't much of a threat while the f4 bishop survives.

Black's queen somewhat interferes with his bishop.

Black's king being on the f-file may cost a tempo.

Nov-10-14  Eduardo Leon: Sorry, accidentally posted some nonsense. (Just deleted it.) Of course I saw 12...♖xh2+. But, not seeing that 13.♕xf3 was also threatened, I went for 12...♕g5+. Sometimes simplest is best.
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  Bubo bubo: Like last Monday we have a sac in the king's vicinity: 12...Rxh2+ with mate after either 13.Kxh2 Qh4+ 14.Kg1 Qg3+ 15.Kh1 Qg2# or 13...Kg1 Rg2+ 14.Kh1 Qh4#.

So Carl Mayet, hero of the amazing <Two queens lose against a bunch of minor pieces> game R Franz vs Mayet, 1858, get's a whupping in 15 moves: that's remarkable!

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  kevin86: The rook sac leads to a quick mate!
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Nov-10-14  rozzatu: Cheapo by the Dozen: 12 ... Qh4 is enough to win but it is a loooong way to do.
Nov-10-14  ThunderDog: Cheapo by the Dozen. 14. Qe3 is mate in two!
Nov-10-14  Chess Dad: <Penguincw: ...but it was longer than most Mondays.>

What made this easy for me was the fact that after Rxh2, the King is 100% exposed.

And whenever you can make the King completely exposed, it's a line worth looking into. (And as it so happens in this puzzle, the next three moves after Rxh2 13. Kxh2 are nearly trivially easy to spot.)

But I showed it to my son this morning, and he didn't get it. He normally can get Monday puzzles, but I guess the length of this one made it a little more difficult.

Nov-10-14  reticulate: The given solution certainly works, but so does Qh4, and it doesn't take long:

12...Qh4 (threatening Qxh2#)
13. Bxf4 (the only move, really) Qxf4
14. Qxf3 (Rxf3 is no better) Qxh2#

White can string it out another move with 14. Qf7+ or 14. Qg8+, but that's about it, unless I'm missing something.

Nov-10-14  BOSTER: The idea to protect g2 square moving the white queen on g5 <Honey Blend> , or exchange the queens on f5 , shows the big difference between 12...Rxh2 and 12...Qh4.
Nov-10-14  tatarch: Also a nice puzzle starting at move 10 with the bishop sac. All forced from there.
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  YouRang: <reticulate: The given solution certainly works, but so does Qh4, and it doesn't take long:

12...Qh4 (threatening Qxh2#)
13. Bxf4 (the only move, really) Qxf4
14. Qxf3 (<<Rxf3 is no better>>) Qxh2# >

I'm afraid that 14.Rxf3 is a LOT better since it renders 14...Qxh2# illegal (notice the pin on the queen & king).

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  thegoodanarchist: Mr. Mayet is fond of sacrificing his king!
Nov-10-14  TheBish: Mayet vs Hirschfeld, 1861

Black to play (12...?) "Very Easy"

It looks like Black has a forced mate with 12...Qh4, but 13. Bxf4! Qxf4 14. Rxf3 wins Black queen.

The right way is 12...Rxh2+! 13. Kxh2 (or 13. Kg1 Rg2+ 14. Kh1 Qh4#) Qh4+ 14. Kg1 Qg3+ 15. Kh1 Qg2#.

Nov-10-14  TheBish: How NOT to Play the King's Gambit as White!

My old friends Robert Raingruber and Lou Maser wrote "The King's Gambit As White" (Thinkers' Press) and I was honored to have two of my games featured there. They recommend the positional approach against the Kieseritzy, 1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 g5 4. h4 g4 5. Ne5 Nf6 6. d4 (instead of 6. Bc4) d6 7. Nd3 Nxe4 8. Bxf4, a line played by Spassky, Bronstein and others.

Nov-11-14  Cheapo by the Dozen: Oh, crumb. <Thunderdog> is correct. The line was one in which ... Rxh2+/Qg7# works.
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  GrahamClayton: Another example of when 0-0 is the worst move to play!
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