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Filiberto Terrazas vs Fidel Castro
Olympiad 1966  ·  King's Gambit: Accepted. King's Knight Gambit (C34)  ·  0-1


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Apr-22-04   nikolaas: <iron maiden> Done with pleasure.

<apprenticetocaissa & TrueFiendish> He was so lucky to have an easy counterplayer.Black's bishop moves bad.

<apprenticetocaissa> You got a funny name.

Apr-30-04   gilbertv: He obviously threw the game but I would have too. Look at the group of thugs that surround Fidel during the matches.
May-10-04   arifattar: 3...Bd6 is actually an innovation by Castro, if you go by the database. Atleast he can take the credit for that.
May-10-04   Dillinger: <Look at the group of thugs that surround Fidel during the matches. > You mean the audience?
May-10-04   Lawrence: <gilbertv>, those aren't thugs, they're chessplayers. Well....come to think of it.... Fidel Castro
May-15-04
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  tpstar: Remember that scene in "Star Wars" where R2D2 was beating Chewbacca at live action chess until C3PO pointed out the downside? ("Let the Wookie win.") White was competing all the way (15. Qa4 over 15. c7+?? axb5), until a sharp dressed giant pulled Sr. Terrazas aside saying, "You're making our hero look bad!" Then he started playing for the loss but tried to keep it "real" (16. c7+?! over 16. Nd4 Nf6 17. 0-0), successfully allowing Mate in One (19. Qxh8?? Qxe2++ over 19. gf). Strange, even 18. Qxd7+!? Rxd7 19. Nd4 would make for an interesting game since material would be equal. [Insert Comment About Cuba & Equal Here] Who knows? Maybe FC and RJF kibitzed over this, um, thrilling victory leading to Fischer's 3 ... d6! "refuting" the King's Gambit, instead of Castro's 3 ... Bd6?! which is, was, and forever will be unclear.

BTW, FT has 3 games in the db = this, um, "defeat," a 38 move loss to Alekhine, and a true gem: O Maass vs F Terrazas, 1973

May-15-04   Dillinger: you seem to be contradicting yourself, <tpstar>. Either this Terrazas was a patzer or he lost on purpose, while being a good enough player to understand to make moves just inferior enough to lose, rather than outright blunders. I hardly see how both conditions can be met; ie they are mutually exclusive.
May-15-04
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  iron maiden: <BTW, FT has 3 games in the db = this, um, "defeat," a 38 move loss to Alekhine, and a true gem: O Maass vs F Terrazas, 1973> Surely you don't mean that it's a "true gem" for Terrazas. One, it's basically a simple Legall's Mate. Two, Terrazas lost that game!
May-15-04   Dillinger: <im> that's why i assumed he was sarcastically calling terrazas a patzer, after insinuating that he lost to castro on purpose.
Jun-12-04
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  kevin86: It looks like Fidel plays as good as Capablanca-of course Capa has been dead several years.
Aug-04-04   sneaky pete: 3... Bd6 is the famous Cuba libre defence. In a game (not in this db) T.Petrosian vs Dr.F.Castro, Havana 1966, after 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Bd6! white soon realised his winning chances had evaporated, so he agreed to a draw. Castro declared after the game that he had never yet lost with this move. Does anyone have a suggestion what George W. might play, if he would play?
Aug-11-04   pawnQueenblack: http://www.cuba.cu/ajedrez/boletin/...
Oct-22-04   Spassky69: I heard Arnold is about 2100 with a chess coach, but I still haven't found any of his games!!! Also Schwarzenegger played with Kasparov at his house and I'm still wondering where the pgn on that is. Does anyone know where you might be able to find rare games that aren't here of famous people?!
Dec-08-04   ArturoRivera: are you seriously about arnold and kasparov?
Dec-08-04   Minor Piece Activity: They did play a game but it was casual and not recorded to my knowledge. Supposedly the two are great friends. I don't think arnold is 2100 though- he'd be in our DB by now. If you are really that interested, there was a chessbase article done on it a long time ago. I'm sure you could find it with google. =)
Dec-08-04   ArturoRivera: wow!!!, Kasparov and arnold...friends!?
Jan-25-05   jondoe: http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail...
Haha, terminator fritz will kick your AHHSS
May-11-05   ragnar0C: I think you guys are not giving Castro enough credit...sure there are dozens of thugs shoving Ak-47's into Terrazas's face and his family being prepared for public execution if Fidel loses... BUT Castro may have won that game fairly (straight face, straight face)
May-11-05   marchdust: Filiberto Terrazas was a well known political figure in Juarez, Mexico (my hometown). He died a few years ago. The man had his extravagances, and one of them was to look persistenly for a chess match with Fidel, although he was a player of limited skill. I do not know how Don Filiberto got to be inivted to Cuba, he was a well known anticommunist. Maybe he wanted to beat Castro and show to the world the Cuban's limitations, or maybe he was looking for a chance to leave a poisoned pawn on the board. I would not be surprised.
Dec-25-07
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  timhortons: maybe these game is a sort of diplomatic act on the part of terazas....bobby fischer resign to fidel castro during there game and petrosian draw there game...che guevarra is the one who introduce chess to fidel castro and during these tournament che is never around...che is a strong player...when he died at venezuela hes knapsack contain a chess board
Jan-18-08   rmedina: Marchdust, GET A LIFE. Filiberto Terrazas is not dead. He is alive and well and living in Ciudad Juarez. I know this for a fact because he is my uncle. He has never been a "well Known" anticommunist as you put it. You only have one thing correct. He has had high ranking political posts in Mexico. I don't know what your reason was to make this stuff up, but he is not dead. You can check out his website at terrazasabogados.com. He is currently a practicing attorney in Juarez.
Mar-29-08   James Demery: This guy was a minor piece up with Castro`s pawn structure in a shambles. Was he just being diplomatic?
Mar-29-08   Wone Jone: No doubt about it, Lenin would have cleaned this guy's clock. And let's hope he'll soon have a chance to prove it!
Dec-01-08
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  sleepyirv: http://www.kenilworthchessclub.org/... Petrosian and Fischer might have advised the players in this game.
Jan-14-09   SirLutero: LOL!
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