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|Sep-09-06|| ||NateDawg: <Renton2006> 24...fxg5 loses to 25. ♖xe7+ ♕xe7 26. ♕xe7+, where White is up a queen.|
|Sep-09-06|| ||Renton2006: <Benzol> Oh, yeah, right. Thanks!|
|Sep-09-06|| ||NateDawg: <Benzol> Sorry - I guess I posted my response slightly after yours; I wasn't copying your analysis =)|
|Sep-09-06|| ||Benzol: <NateDawg> No worries mate. I'm sure you weren't as the line is a very strong one.|
|Sep-09-06|| ||Renton2006: <Benzol> and <NateDawq> Thanks for your help. I'm such a weak player and I can't see even simple things. White is up a Queen after fxg5. I guess that's good enough for a win...|
|Sep-09-06|| ||Benzol: <Renton2006> You're very welcome. By comparison with some other kibitzers I'm pretty weak myself. But that's what I like about this site, it's for everyone.|
|Sep-09-06|| ||EmperorAtahualpa: I guess this game shows it's tough winning against someone who doesn't accept your sac offers, no matter how brilliant your planned combinations are.|
|Sep-09-06|| ||RandomVisitor: 24...Re5 = .
19...Rxe1 = .
|Sep-09-06|| ||Dim Weasel: I don't get the pun :(|
|Sep-09-06|| ||RandomVisitor: Heav'n has no rage like love to hatred turn'd
Nor Hell a fury, like a woman scorn'd.
The saying is from the closing line of act III of William Congreve's The Mourning Bride, first produced in 1697. The Mourning Bride is your usual king-orders-beheading-of-enemy-prince-upon-finding-he--
The first line of the play is another oft-misquote: "Music has charms to soothe a savage breast."
Perhaps the rejection of the Knight sacrifice has spun white up into a fury. That is my guess.
|Sep-09-06|| ||artemis: wouldnt it be better if this was a Queen's Gambit Declined game for the pun, i.e., scorning the woman's gambit? just a thought.|
|Sep-09-06|| ||Peligroso Patzer: <Renton2006: Why not 24 ... fxg5?>|
Just a quick pointer to help you improve, <Renton2006>. Your comment overlooked the fact that White's 24. Ng5 had unblocked the e-file. It is natural to focus on the threats, etc. arising from the new square on which the piece just moved now stands. You must also train yourself to be aware of the tactical significance of the fact that the square FROM WHICH it moved is now vacant. Sometimes, the most significant tactical feature of a move is the file, diagonal or even rank the moved piece has unblocked. Sometimes it can also be the fact that the vacated square is now available to be occupied by another piece.
|Sep-09-06|| ||Peligroso Patzer: <artemis: wouldnt it be better if this was a Queen's Gambit Declined game for the pun, i.e., scorning the woman's gambit? just a thought.>|
It is unclear to me wherein during the course of this game the White Queen's sense of being scorned arose, but from move 36, she was relentlessly, one might even say more-than-hellaciously furious in hounding the Black King to a square that would assure his doom.
|Sep-09-06|| ||Rocafella: 35.d6+ is a nice quiet move|
|Sep-09-06|| ||CapablancaFan: After 33...Bxf4, it took nerves of steel not to play the impulsive move 34.gxf4 and instead find the better 34.Re1+!|
|Sep-09-06|| ||Domdaniel: Dead right, <CapablancaFan> - it's a Capa quality (a Capa-city?) that's often overlooked amid talk of the 'chess machine' etc.|
Reti, I think, told a story of being paired with Capa in a consultation game. Reti - Mr Hypermodern himself - wanted to play a 'principled' Steinitzian move. Capa wouldn't hear of it, and probed until he found an apparently anti-positional but stronger line, which won the game.
|Sep-09-06|| ||CapablancaFan: <Domdaniel> I think this was the game you were referring to. Fahndrich / Kaufmann vs Reti / Capablanca, 1914|
|Sep-09-06|| ||Domdaniel: Thanks <CapablancaFan>, that's the one.
I think Reti wanted to hit the White queen with the 'sensible' move 14...Re8, but Capa came up with 14...Bd4 instead.|
I also recall some later spoilsport pointing out that this wasn't actually such a great move after all... any idea who it was?
|Sep-09-06|| ||kevin86: White's nimble queen really dances in this one-all while black's poor staid queen is finally set up as a lamb to the slaughter.|
A pun on CHRISTINE-Stephen's King's book about a killer car,a 1957 Plymouth Fury--Hell hath no woman like a Fury scorned.
|Sep-09-06|| ||Gypsy: < Domdaniel: ... I also recall some later spoilsport pointing out that this wasn't actually such a great move after all... any idea who it was? > Euwe.|
|Sep-09-06|| ||NateDawg: <Dim Weasel> "Hell hath no Fury like a Woman scorn'd" is from "The Mourning Bride" as RandomVisitor said. I am assuming that in this game it applies to the specific instance when Black played 33...♗xf4?, thinking that he could mess up White's pawn structure before the inevitable (or so he thought) queen trade, underestimating White's queen. The queen obviously felt "scorned" and unleashed a fury the likes of which hell hath not.|
|Sep-10-06|| ||sfm: 35.d6+
Black: "Hah! Hopefully you don't think I'm going to capture this pawn with my king??"
White: "Let me check..."
|Sep-10-06|| ||whatthefat: The combination starting with 34.Re1+ is very elegant, and not simple to analyze over the board.|
|Jul-08-08|| ||Laboratory: The game continued 43...Rb8 44.Da7+ Kc6 45.Dxh7 Tb2 46.Dxg6 when black really resigned. This chessgames version is too short.|
|Aug-31-14|| ||plang: Played in the 17th round; two rounds later Capablanca played 5 Bxc4 against Bogoljubov which he considered to be a clear improvement. Black could have avoided the weakening of his kingside with 11..Be5 12 Qb3..Bxf3 13 Qxf3..Qb6 when he has decent chances; instead after his 11..Qc7? White had a solid edge. The alternative 12..Bxh2+ 13 Kh1..Nxf6 14 d6 would have been winning for White showing the importance of maintaining the blockade on d6. 23..Bb2? was an error overlooking Capablanca's reply; better was 23..Rae8 24 Re2..Bxb2 25 Rxb2..Rxe4 26 a5 with White better but still with a lot of play left.|
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