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|Mar-18-09|| ||Pawnage: I checked some earlier analysis with my computer, and Petrosian could have indeed sacrificed the queen one move earlier. Still, a very impressive combination, Bg7 is killer. It brings to mind Tarrasch's Plachutta (because they are both 'quiet' bishop moves that force mate).|
|Apr-01-09|| ||AnalyzeThis: This game is just ridiculously beautiful.|
|Apr-16-09|| ||dzechiel: <xrt999: < WhiteRook48: I don't get Fischer's annotations. Bg7? A problem move? >|
He might have meant one of 2 things:
1.this is a real [good] problem move [ie CHESS problem or composition]...>
This is almost certainly what Fischer meant. 21 Bg7! resembles the key move of a chess problem, quiet, unassuming, but also deadly.
|May-27-09|| ||tentsewang: 21. Bg7 Rd5 22. h4+ Kh5 23.Bf3# 1-0
Unique checkmate, I just love it !
|Jun-18-09|| ||OhioChessFan: <JFP: I have not seen anything written about 18... Nd5. >|
I thought the same thing when I played through the game. I'm feeling lazy today, so I decided to plug it into Fritz. The first thing I found was White could have played the Queen sac a move earlier. Anyway, Fritz has White play either 19. Nd6 or 19. Ne5 and Black is in trouble with the impending c4. Evals are about 2.30 and falling in both cases.
|Jul-15-09|| ||sightlesswisdom: haha! excellent game... "It is to Petrosian's advantage that his opponents never know when he is suddenly going to play like Mikhail Tal." -Spassky ...Anyone know any other good Petrosian sacs?|
|Jul-15-09|| ||parisattack: There is Petrosian-Bronstein Amsterdam 1956...Although that one did not turn out quite as well for Tigran.|
|Oct-13-09|| ||k009ris: I can assure you Petrosian did see and calculate it to the very end.His calculating skils were well known to say
Kasparov and Kortschnoi, both wrote about it.As for publishing pieces of computer analysis,why dont you quit that guys?We all have a chess program, none of them makes you any better chess player..I love guess the move database here ... way better than playing blitz or watching fritz calculating the lines.
cheers to all|
|Feb-02-10|| ||TheChessVids: Lol, I find it funny how chessgames.com allow a game to be game of the day twice. This was the very first game of the day. Back on Australia day, 2002!|
|Feb-02-10|| ||whiteshark: The Bulletin gives <11...b6 12.Bf4 Qb7> (with initiative) e.g. <13.Ne5> (13.d4 c4) <13...Bd7> (13...Rd8) as better choice. |
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|Mar-14-10|| ||newzild: Where do Fischer's notes come from?|
|May-04-10|| ||FinnPatzer: There is no option to "accepting" this Q for B sacrifice, as it's a simple mate in 2 if you don't. It's also not hard to see at move 18 that the very LEAST White can get from the sac. is a draw by perpetual check. In fact Black's game is lost after 17 moves (maybe earlier). We can only assume that Petrosian was needlessly worried about possibly throwing away a clearly won game through an ill-judged sacrificial attack.|
|May-07-10|| ||maxi: Problems in chess usually are defined by a first move, which snaps a trap or situation from which the Black King doesn't have a escape. (It is considered bad form if it is a check.) Thus by "problem move" Fischer meant the position resembled that of a chess problem, with Petrosian's move being a typical solution.|
|Jul-01-10|| ||fischer2009: 7.......0-0 is a serious positional mistake by black;pachman should have played d6 and then only castlih not allowing petrosian's 8.e5;after e5 black is both 2 cramped and now if he challenges the centre the game opens up to the better developed white's likingthe c8 bishop is not developed and the rooks are far away from being connected|
|Aug-16-10|| ||sevenseaman: Beautiful Bishop move! Petrosian can take you for a ride.|
|Oct-29-10|| ||Akavall: 19. Qxf6! is nice of course, but I really like 21. Bg7!!; it is a "quite" move that ends the game.|
|Nov-12-10|| ||Tigranny: Tigran always plays brilliant unexpected moves like the queen sacrifice and Bg7!!.|
|Nov-12-10|| ||Petrosianic: I don't kow about that. 1. Nf3 was fairly expectable.|
|Nov-14-10|| ||Tigranny: I don't mean Nf3 Petrosianic. I just meant moves to finish off the game.|
|Nov-27-10|| ||Xeroxx: Why did It Bled?|
|Feb-14-11|| ||kingscrusher: I have video annotated the key moment of this game:
|Mar-31-11|| ||Domdaniel: < Why did It Bled?>
'Sblood. Zounds. Because of the punk, sure. There's a fine old English word, raw-head-and-bloody-bones, which covers such haemophiliac leakages.
See also "bleeders", "bleeding out", "let it bleed", "what bloody man is that?", usw.|
Is *obviously* a "problemist's move", ie, one comparable to those found in composed problems. A puzzle (which may be taken from a real game) and a problem are different things.
If you're looking for Petrosianical tactics, check out the two games (one vs Spassky) where he temporarily sacs a Queen on h8.
|Apr-30-11|| ||kia0708: lovely comment from Fischr: <Now Petrosian is preparing for a very beautiful finish.>|
|May-02-11|| ||alligator: I just revisited this game as I plan to show it in my chess classes. Looking through the comments made me realize how Petrosian is still a mystery. |
Petrosian was excellent at calculating tactics, often winning world-class blitz tournaments. There is a whole book showcasing his tactical brilliance. If anyone is interested I will try to find the book info.
When playing other world class GM's Petrosian preferred safety first, since he hated losing and rarely did. One of his 'mentors' was Nimzovich, but Petrosian took "prophylaxis" to a new level. In many of his games it appears (to the uninitiated) that nothing is happening, because his plans are so subtle. Petrosian would often eliminate all counterplay before initiating an attack.
Fischer had great respect for Petrosian. Remember that Petrosian was the only player able to stop Fischer's amazing winning streak in the candidates cycle leading up to the 1972 world chamionship. Study Petrosian's games (ex in Clarke's book) and your chess understanding will reach a whole new level.
|May-02-11|| ||say it with a smile: Sadly none of the players (Petrosian, Fischer, Pachman, ..) are no longer with us. 60's was the golden age of chess.|
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