|Oct-23-03|| ||Helloween: This one was pretty simple to see. White's forces' dispersion on the Queenside combined with the tripled f-pawns makes his position indefensable. Note that rejecting the Knight sac with Kh1 or Kg1 loses quickly to 19...Qh3. |
|Oct-23-03|| ||Sneaky: Insufficient is 19.♖g6+? ♔h1 20.♕h3 ♖g1 21.♖h6 ♖g2 |
|Oct-23-03|| ||Helloween: Yes, Rg6+?? throws the forced mate away and I doubt anyone who played Nf4+ would blunder that terribly on the next move.|
Also, note that 20.h4 doesn't work due to 20...Qg6+ 21.Kh3 Be7 with mate to follow.
|Oct-23-03|| ||Sneaky: <I doubt anyone who played Nf4+ would blunder that terribly on the next move.> Hehe you don't know me very well ;-)|
By the way I got my numbers all screwed up in that line so let me restate: <Insufficient is 19...Rg6+? 20.Kh1 Qh3 21.Rg1 etc.>
|Oct-23-03|| ||Honza Cervenka: If 19.Kh1 Qh3 20.Rg1, then 20...Qxh2+! 21.Kxh2 Rh6#. |
|Oct-23-03|| ||mrvertigo: what is White's weakness here? Usually with an early 1900 game you're thinking 'oh my god he did that'. Running through this game fast, white just seems a bit lazy, but some sharp moves are thrown in |
|Oct-23-03|| ||MoonlitKnight: White tried to nurture his king-side attack with 17.♘b3?, but after 17...♖d6! realized that he first needed to protect his own monarch, and withdrew his knight back to d2. His 17th and 18th move were thus completely wasted in a critical phase of the game, and black's attack now unstoppable. |
|Oct-23-03|| ||myratingstinks: Hey hun, gimme a samisch!!! Dont forget the mustard!! jk ;) |
|Oct-23-03|| ||kevin86: a nice combination! Wasn't Samisch the loser of Nimzo's zugzwang game? |
|Oct-23-03|| ||eainca: I love it when pawns are all in a row!!! |
|Oct-23-03|| ||sleepkid: kevin: Samisch lost many beautiful games. Please see some of the comments here: Friedrich Samisch |
|Oct-23-03|| ||drukenknight: I agree 15 NxN was better but 14 Qxa7 would have been spectacular |
|Oct-23-03|| ||patzer2: Samisch played well through most of this game, but blunders and loses with 18. Nd2?? However, he also had opportunities to improve earlier. |
More flexible (and more popular with today's stronger players) than 5. Nbd2 is the immediate 5. g3 as in Shabalov vs G Sagalchik, 2003 or Enrique Scarella vs G Sagalchik, 2003 or Bosboom-Lanchava vs Pokorna, 2003 or Tiviakov vs G Ligterink, 2001 or Van der Wiel vs Tiviakov, 2001 or Tiviakov vs Brenninkmeijer, 2001
Still Samisch's play is OK for the first 14 moves, although 9. a3 may not be the best move. Worth considering are 9. Ng5 as in Hort vs B Gasic, 1972 or 9. Qb3! as in Smyslov vs Smederevac Petar, 1966 Note that Fritz 8 gives white a clear advantage after 9. Qb3! Be7 10. Qxb7 Rb8 11. Nxd4 Rxb7 12. Bxc6 Nxe5 13. Bxd7+ Kxd7 14. Rd1 Rd8 (+1.25 & 14/40 depth & 661kN/s)
Validating the soundness of Samisch's play through the first ten moves is Euwe vs B Kostic, 1952 after which Samisch is into unexplored territory.
Fritz 8 prefers 12. Qa4 (+1.34 & 14/14 depth & 664kN/s) with a clear white advantage.
White can also improve with the immediate 13. Bxd4 (+0.66) with a slight white advantage, according to Fritz.
Perhaps better than 15. exf3 was 15. Nxf3, after which black can only equalize and hold the position with 15. ..Bc5 (-0.06 @ 13/47 depth & 665kN/s).
Samisch should have played 17. Ne4! to maintain a slight advantage (+0.31 @ 14/43 depth & 649kN/s). Note that this move provides better control of the center, does not obstruct his pieces and denies black the strong 17. Rd6! As such 17. Ne4! was probably white's last chance to secure an advantage.
Obviously 18. Nd2?? throws away the game after black's reply. Relatively better was 18. Bc1 leading to only a slight black advantage per Fritz 8 (-0.28 @ 14/53 ply & 665kN/s).
|Oct-23-03|| ||patzer2: <drukenknight> After 14. Qxa7 Qh3 15. Qa8+ Kd7 16. Qxb7 Bxf1 17. Rxf1 Qe6 18. Nxd4 Qb6, black holds the advantage according to Fritz 8 (-0.81 @11/43 & 663kN/s). |
|Oct-23-03|| ||drukenknight: So that line is razor sharp and very close to even? IT would have been fun to see them find all those moves huh? |
Even if he didnt want to play that line, he could have seen the first few moves and reasoned that if white had that sort of possibility with his queen imagine what black has? and use that to judge his own defensive moves.
|Oct-23-03|| ||Sneaky: <More flexible (and more popular with today's stronger players) than 5. Nbd2 is the immediate 5. g3> A cheap trap is 5.Nbd2 Bf5, because if White plays automatically with 6.g3? he is immediately embarassed by 6...Nb4! |
|Oct-24-03|| ||drukenknight: cute trap. I try to do that whenever I get the B to f5. which is like never. |
|Oct-24-03|| ||patzer2: <Sneaky> 5. ..Bf5 may have potential beyond the trap line you mention above, as in the pretty black wins with it in Samisch vs Richter, 1941 and Finn vs Palmer, 1903|
White's best response to 5. ..Bf5 (according to Fritz 8) is 6. Nb3! as in Finn vs Palmer (see Kibiting to that game above), leading to a white advantage.
|Oct-24-03|| ||AdrianP: <kevin86> <a nice combination! Wasn't Samisch the loser of Nimzo's zugzwang game?> indeed, he was... this is the game Samisch vs Nimzowitsch, 1923 |
|Mar-05-10|| ||rapidcitychess: I have recommended the Albin but never been able to get the courage to use it.:D|
|Oct-27-14|| ||OhioChessFan: "Funky Cool Opening, Medina"|