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|Mar-31-08|| ||sallom89: easy ;o|
|Mar-31-08|| ||Waitaka: <MAJ> How old is your kid?|
|Mar-31-08|| ||TheaN: 1/1
Heh, actually spotted the Kh2 continuation as mate, har. Discarded it right after.
32....Rc1+ is actually a very simple remove the guard tactic, where after
33.Kh2 Rh1+/Qxb1, as debated. I dunno which I'd choose. Both win, but the first might be easier in any practical situation, regarding White's Queen being on the board in the second. Also, with Kh2, White gives Black the opportunity to put the White Rook out of play for one move, winning a tempo, so he's better off playing Rxc1 I guess.
|Mar-31-08|| ||zb2cr: A simple puzzle, but pleasing in its combination of two tactical themes, <overworked piece> and <double attack>, as
pointed out by <notyetagm> above.|
I think I'm going to side with <MostlyAverageJoe> in his friendly dispute with <zooter>. After 33. Kh2, Qxb1; 34. Qd5+, Kh7; 35. Qd5, Qc2 Black easily rolls up one or more White Pawns and can force a Queen swap.
|Mar-31-08|| ||karnak64: Monday, blessed Monday -- it always restores my hopes of someday becoming a Class C player, maybe even Class B ...|
|Mar-31-08|| ||gawain: The puzzle was rightly Monday-easy but the pattern is attractive and educational.|
It's always nice to find out that there is a handy name for some familiar pattern or phenomenon. Fork-overload, eh?
|Mar-31-08|| ||Rainier Wolfcastle: Pretty easy today. Even for myself ...|
|Mar-31-08|| ||Creg: Ah Monday's :) After attempting a Saturday and Sunday puzzle, it's always nice to return to Mondays. |
Rc1+ and the Queen will fall at b7.
|Mar-31-08|| ||patzer2: For today's easy Monday puzzle solution, Black plays the double attack (decoy/deflection)sham sacrfice 32...Rc1+! to remove the Rook's guard and win the White Queen with decisive material advantage.|
|Mar-31-08|| ||Tactic101: Something we've seen a lot of times. Still nice to figure it out, though.|
|Mar-31-08|| ||randallbsmith: Wow! Everyone who is not familiar with this pattern should look at notyetagm's collection of ten (yes ten!) examples he lists above. I copy the link here for your convenience. Thanks notyetagm, I learned something! Notyetagm's :Game Collection: fork-overload trick|
|Mar-31-08|| ||YouRang: One of those positions where illusions are exposed. |
Here, we have the illusion that white's queen is covered while also having the 1st rank covered. 32...Rc1+ says you can't have both.
|Mar-31-08|| ||kevin86: Overworked and underpaid! The fate of white's rook in this little drama.|
32...♖c1+ 33 ♖xc1 ♕xb7 wins ♕ for ♖ or... 33 ♔h2 ♕xb1 34 ♕xb1 ♖xb1 gains ♖ for zero. just don't make the stupid error of 33 ♔h2 ♖xb1?? 34 ♕xe4 turns the tables.
|Mar-31-08|| ||DarthStapler: Got it easily|
|Mar-31-08|| ||capybara: I worked out today's puzzle, it was quite easy even for a Monday. But it is always nice to find the solution.|
|Mar-31-08|| ||012: Sunday puzzle <17. ?> Mar-30-08 Nunn vs Fedorowicz, 1991|
|Mar-31-08|| ||MaczynskiPratten: This is a nice example of a "self-cheapo". White is a pawn down but not too badly off until she spots the apparent win of the b-pawn. Black's 31.. Rc2 looks sneaky - pretending she just wants to win the c-pawn and not letting on that she has a nasty shock prepared for White when she plays 32 Qxb7 :-)|
|Mar-31-08|| ||YouRang: <kevin86><...don't make the stupid error of...>
I have to admit that for a brief moment, I had it in my head that 32...Rc1+ 33.Kg2 could be answered by 33...Qh1# (forgetting that white's queen was still on the diagonal to reply with 33.Qxh1 ).|
|Mar-31-08|| ||wals: 32...Rc1+ 33.RxR ...Qxb7 all over bar the shouting|
32. .Rc1+ 33.Kh2 ...Rh1+ 34 RxR ...Qxb7
Ringadingding a victory
|Mar-31-08|| ||mworld: would it be a won endgame for black if Black chooses to exchange his queen (32...QxQ) for whites queen and c4 pawn?|
|Mar-31-08|| ||Shams: <mworld> 4 vs. 3 rook endings with all the pawns on the same side are very drawish.|
|Mar-31-08|| ||mworld: thanks for the reply shams. i ask because this looks like a good textbook position to wonder over. I have been reading up on the endgame a lot more lately and it has me interested.|
if black got down to the 4 vs 3 rook ending with same side pawns in this case, the only two things that would be a draw are if he trades pawns down to having only a rook file pawn left or having his king stuck behind his last pawn>?
as i said, im trying to learn this, so this is just educational - is there anything else to think about in this ending?
|Mar-31-08|| ||just a kid: I got this in 5 seconds
|Mar-31-08|| ||johnlspouge: Monday (Very Easy): Black to play and win.
Material: even. The primary feature of the position is that the White Rb1 protects Qb7, which Qe4 attacks. An enumeration of checks, captures, and threats reveals a critical deflection.
Candidates (32…): Rc1+
32…Rc1+ 33.Rxc1 [Kh2 Qxb1] Qxb7
|Apr-01-08|| ||MostlyAverageJoe: <MostlyAverageJoe: I plan to use my kid tomorrow as a test subject, to see which line will be easier for him>|
Experiment postponed due to homework. I hope to remember to do it tomorrow ...
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