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Jacques Mieses vs Johannes Vilhelm Ohquist
"You Don't Know Jacques" (game of the day Jul-01-11)
Nuremberg - (1895)  ·  Scandinavian Defense: Ilundain Variation (B01)  ·  1-0
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Jul-01-11  LIFE Master AJ: I also have the new book, "The Modern Scandinavian."
Jul-01-11  LIFE Master AJ: I think I caught a 1600 in this trap - something like 20 years ago. (Yes, it was a tournament.)
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  Once: But that's not what the crowd wanted to see, was it? We wanted this:

11. bxa8=Q+ Pawn takes rook = queen: one of the most one-sided exchanges possible in this great game of ours.

11...Qc8 12. Nxf7+ Kc7 Nd5#

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Okay, so it's not the quickest. I admit that. And most strong players would feel ashamed to pass on a mate in one. You got me on that one. And it probably is a case of needlessly toying with our opponnent. Er ... yes ... guilty as charged.

All that is true but still ... you've got admit it's purty.

Jul-01-11  TheTamale: Black's first blunder: taking on the mighty Mieses!
Jul-01-11  erniecohen: <zdigyigy: Playing c6 is probably an idea black should consider, the white pawn going to d5 is irritating.> Yes, but e6 is the more usual way to deal with it.
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  maxi: <Once>, yes it is. But the whole line is built on that spirit, because it is unlikely that Black would play 4...Nc6. Or 5...Bg4. Or 6...Ne5. At least in our age. (After 6...Ne5 you lose a piece and that's it.)
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  Domdaniel: Everyone knows the trap (or blunder) in the Queen's Gambit, Cambridge Springs: 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5 Nbd7 and White cannot win a pawn with 5.cxd5 exd5 6.Nxd5? because of 6...Nxd5 7.Bxd8 Bb4+ forcing 8.Qd2, and Black wins a piece.

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It's funny, but having an unmoved c-pawn (c2 or c7, as here) can give you an illusion of being safe from this tactic. I once fell for a similar one, having played the Nimzowitsch Defence on a whim against a gambit-loving opponent:

1.e4 Nc6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 dxe4 4.d5 Ne5 5.f3?! exf3 6.Nxf3 ... now Black should be OK after ...Nxf3, but I stupidly thought 6...Bg4?? would 'increase the pressure' or 'exchange some pieces' or something equally stupid.

And exchange some pieces it did, though not on a one-for-one basis. While my opponent was pondering his reply, I suddenly saw the tactic and *knew* he'd find it. He did.

7.Nxe5! Bxd1 8.Bb5+

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What good is the c7 pawn now?

8...c6 9.dxc6 ... I tried 9...Be2, but soon had to resign.

A pin is only as permanent as the life of the piece behind it.

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  Domdaniel: "Nobody knows Jacques".
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  kevin86: How many of you expected white to regain the queen? Instead,he employs the knight to mate,aided by the advanced pawn blocking a key escape square.

A heck of a week for knights on

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  Once: <maxi> True, true. The 11. bxa8=Q line was never going to be played. It was just an idle whimsy, a fantasy, a tantalising glimpse of what might have been.

It's like when you are walking down the street and a blood red ferrari drives by, its exhausts growling like a Minoan bull in heat. It's a hot day and the driver has the roof down. He's impossibly good looking with a firm gym body, immaculate Ray Bans and all his own teeth. You can't see for sure, but you just know that he has one of those knobbly-bobbly cobblestone stomachs.

And sitting next to him is an achingly gorgeous blonde, wearing a wisp of designer blouse and golden hair that floats ever so lightly in the breeze.

And you just know that she goes like the clappers and handles well in the bends. And the car is pretty sporty too.

Then just for a moment, a fleeting heartbeat moment, you imagine what life would be like if that was you driving. If it was your Ferrari, owned, paid for and you didn't have to hand it back to its real owner afterwards.

Or for that matter, if she was your own laydeee - owned paid for and you didn't have to hand her back either.

And if you've followed my train of thought so far ... that's the sort of thing I had in mind when I wished that white had played 11. bxa8=Q+

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  Domdaniel: Hmmm. So your ideal relationship with the female sex involves *ownership*, eh, <Once>? A trophy? Your very 'own laydee'?

An, uh, *doll* might be cheaper.

Me, I feel a frisson of *pity* for musclebound oafs in Ferraris with pendant 'blonde', but it rarely lasts long.

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  maxi: <Once> That was pretty ff, I laughed my ass off.

I'll let you keep the Ferrari. But I will drive into the sunset with the blond at my side.

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  Shams: <Dom><Me, I feel a frisson of *pity* for musclebound oafs in Ferraris with pendant 'blonde', but it rarely lasts long>

You'd really envy us if you got to know us.

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  Once: <Once> upon a time I would look at a musclebound oaf in a Ferrari and think "one day, that will be me."

A little later in life, I looked again and said "that should have been me".

A little later still, I looked at said: "One day that might be my son."

Who knows? In a few years time, I might end up saying "that should have been my son..."

And the laydee? About as realistic a fantasy as me owning a ferrari. And probably not a bad thing either.

Jul-01-11  SirChrislov: that's the way you do it jakes. money for nothin. and your chicks for free.
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  Shams: <Domdaniel><An, uh, *doll* might be cheaper.>

Please tell me you reviewed "Cherry 2000", back in the day.

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  FSR: < Domdaniel: Hmmm. So your ideal relationship with the female sex involves *ownership*, eh, <Once>? A trophy? Your very 'own laydee'? An, uh, *doll* might be cheaper.>

"Lars and the Real Girl" was actually a documentary about Once.

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  FSR: This trap is strikingly similar to that in D Genz vs D Boehmer, 1985 - which I have pulled off more than once in Internet blitz games.
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  maxi: There are many good things to be said about dolls. They are not at the phone all the time with their moms. They don't mind it if you sometimes miss a shower. They don't expect presents for birthdays and if they get one they don't make comments like "It won't fit" or "That's for older women than me", or the like. They don't ask you to go with them to obnoxious places. Etc. Choose the doll.
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  Shams: "It is men, not women, who like to play with dolls." -- Helene Cixous
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  maxi: <FSR> Yes, the trap is more likely to occur with this order of moves.
Jul-01-11  lemaire90: Interesting trap that I didn't know. Apparently 9. ... Qc7 was a blunder, a6 leads to a crazy line where white regains the queen plus the d1 bishop.
Jul-01-11  WhiteRook48: ... people fall into this trap quite often
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  Penguincw: Amazing. A black bishop grabbing the white queen on d1, but white wins, by mating, and never getting the queen back!
Feb-04-15  MariusDaniel: Jacques Mieses'famous game--Interesting game--Ohquist's chessmoves 9.Qc7 and Kd8 were extremely funny-dubious,he even got checkmated by the deadly knight!now that is funny.
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