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Vera Menchik vs Frantisek Schubert
"Death and the Maiden" (game of the day Aug-12-2016)
Scarborough (1928), Scarborough ENG, rd 9, May-26
Queen's Gambit Declined: Exchange. Saemisch Variation (D35)  ·  1-0


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Nov-19-09  waustad: <pb>This one was easy to get. The impossible ones involve pop culture.
Nov-19-09  bvwp: Wonderful title. Actually made me laugh.
Nov-19-09  chillowack: <RandomVisitor: Instead of 28...Nh7, 28...Ne4 seems to hold for black:> RandomVisitor, is this your own idea, or Rybka's? I only ever see Rybka analysis in your posts. Personally I'd much rather see your own ideas and opinions, rather than endless computer variations, but that's just me: perhaps others here enjoy the Rybka analysis.

I thought for sure Menchik was going to play the interesting tactical shot 29.Nxf7, which appears to lead to a considerable advantage for White (29...Rf7 30.Re7 g5 31.Qe1). I'm sure a player of Menchik's strength saw this simple maneuver; I wonder why she didn't play it?

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  al wazir: Great pun. For once it doesn't hinge on a mispronunciation of a player's name.
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  kevin86: All focus on f7-but even here,white finds the power to divert the defender.
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  Jimfromprovidence: <Chillowack>

<RandomVisitor>'s analysis is like having the answer key at the back of a math book. I find it incredibly helpful.

Anyway, in your own line... <I thought for sure Menchik was going to play the interesting tactical shot 29.Nxf7, which appears to lead to a considerable advantage for White (29...Rf7 30.Re7 g5 31.Qe1). I'm sure a player of Menchik's strength saw this simple maneuver; I wonder why she didn't play it?> has 30...Bd5, and you lose a piece.

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Nov-19-09  chillowack: <Jimfromprovidence: black has 30...Bd5, and you lose a piece.>

So simple! I guess that explains why Menchik didn't play this.

Thanks, Jim--both for the refutation, and for finding it yourself (rather than consulting a computer).

Nov-19-09  RandomVisitor: <chillowack><RandomVisitor, is this your own idea, or Rybka's?>A little of both.

The analysis I present is best interpreted as a starting point for your own personal investigation.

For example, after 18...Qe7, it looks like white has a better move, 19.Qf3, as backed up by this analysis, and it might even be winning:

1: Vera Menchik - Frantisek Schubert, Scarborough 1928

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Analysis by Rybka 3 :

<[+1.39] d=24 19.Qf3> Bb7 20.c5 bxc5 21.dxc5 Bxe5 22.Bxe5 Qxe5 23.Rxb7 Rfc8 24.c6 Rc7 25.Bf5 Qd6 26.Rxc7 Qxc7 27.Qg3 Ne8 28.Qxc7 Nxc7 29.Rb1 g6 30.Bd7 Na6 31.Rb5 Kf8 32.Rxd5 Nc7 33.Re5 Kg7 34.Re2 02:17:59 1932799kN

Nov-19-09  Hitokiri Battousai: there is also a movie "Death and the Maiden". From Roman Polanski. But the pun is for the composer of the quartet
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  Jim Bartle: I thought it was an excellent movie, with Sigourney Weaver and Ben Kingsley in the lead roles, in a political-torture drama set in Chile, but I'm in the minority.
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  Phony Benoni: <Waustad> But this pun does involve pop culture!

OK, maybe great-great-great-grandpop culture. But it was cutting edge, far-out stuff in the 1820s.

Nov-19-09  AccDrag: A pretty awful game. Black did his best to move his Ns the maximum possible times. Aside from that, a wholly non-commendable game.
Nov-19-09  WhiteRook48: 40...Qe7 41 Ng6
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  Once: <AccDrag: A pretty awful game>

Not a classic, I grant you! Sometimes gives us a mediocre game if it allows a good pun. I suppose one can't have everything in life.

Nov-19-09  zdigyigy: 31.Re2!
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  Infohunter: Second time around as GOTD, I see. And no comments on it since its first go-around as such. Anyway, a belated "Thank you" to <Phony Benoni> for elucidating the pun. Today I learned something in addition to chess knowledge.
Aug-12-16  WorstPlayerEver: It's a minor piece :)
Aug-12-16  grasser: I hope the pun was not because she was a Master player and yet not smart enough to move when bombs were being dropped on her City almost daily? No Grandmasters that I know of died in the Yugoslavia Civil war. I think Death and the Maiden was subtle but sick jab at poor Vera.
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  playground player: Vera Menchik had a lot of fancy scalps hanging from her belt.

See our esteemed colleague <jessicafischerqueen>'s video on Menchik--well worth watching!

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  kevin86: White's extra piece wins the day.
Aug-12-16  fgh: Schubert has a song and a string quartet with this title. Though the quartet is named after the song (the second movement borrows a melody from it), the former is far more famous and virtually universally considered the greater work (as well as one of the pinnacles of chamber and classical music).

The lieder:

The chamber piece:

Aug-12-16  posoo: DA GRATEST PON chusgums HAS COM UP WITH


Aug-12-16  newzild: I'm more familiar with the Verlaines song than I am with Schubert's.
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  thegoodanarchist: Glad it wasn't <Meth and the Day's Inn >
Aug-15-16  jffun1958: It's a German poem (published 1774) by Matthias Claudius.

Das Mädchen:

Vorüber! Ach vorüber!
Geh wilder Knochenmann!
Ich bin noch jung, geh Lieber!
Und rühre mich nicht an.

Der Tod:

Gib deine Hand, du schön und zart Gebild!
Bin Freund, und komme nicht, zu strafen:
Sei gutes Muts! ich bin nicht wild,
Sollst sanft in meinen Armen schlafen.

But in this game it goes the other way round. :-)

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