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Albert Einstein vs Robert Oppenheimer
Princeton USA 1933  ·  Spanish Game: Morphy Defense. Caro Variation (C70)  ·  1-0


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Dec-03-07
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  hitman84: I was searching through Tal's games then I had to visit the bathroom.. suddenly I rushed back to check that game. You know which one :) but Boy! this is even more devious.

Dec-03-07
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  Domdaniel: <Hesam> Yep, I tried K-vs-K game 16 as well, also Karpov-vs-Miles (St George... that certainly worked!)

Maybe next time ...

Feb-07-08   D.Observer: Einstein's atom bomb detonated on the 12th move at h5.
Mar-14-08   Riverbeast: In honor of Einstein's birthday, we have this gem between him and Oppenheimer...

Albert once claimed that he didn't understand chess, but perhaps he was being modest

Nov-13-08   Ladolcevita: Is it real??
Jan-07-09   M.D. Wilson: Paul Dirac, who many consider to be the preeminent physicist of the 20th Century, said Oppenheimer should have focused less on poetry and classics and more on physics. His view of physics was a bit mystical and lacked the objective realism of Heisenberg or Pauli, for example, but his genius is unquestionable. He also moved from topic to topic, so he never really focused on any one problem long enough to make Nobel-winning discoveries. However his postulates regarding neutron stars and black holes come pretty close; but, alas, throat cancer claimed his life.
Feb-03-09   WhiteRook48: Black blundered so many pieces
Feb-03-09   AnalyzeThis: He was disappointed that the rules don't let you just drop an atomic bomb on the opponent's position.
Mar-10-09   WhiteRook48: or any other of those elements
Mar-11-09   Dredge Rivers: Wow, pompous know-it-all vs. pompous know-it-all! I'll try to contain my enthusiasm!
Mar-28-09   chillowack: Dredge Rivers: anyone who calls Einstein a "pompous know-it-all" knows very little about the man. He was far from pompous, in fact he was one of the humblest and sweetest men of science the world has ever known. He was opposed to the atom bomb, worked hard for world peace, never said an unkind word about anyone, never put on airs, praised Ghandi highly, and genuinely cared about the fate of the world.

Where you get "pompous know-it-all" out of that is beyond me: most likely you've never read a single word about the man.

Apr-01-09   Andrijadj: The level of play is ridiculously low...Sorry guys,but you should have sticked to electrons and stuff...:)
Apr-01-09   ILikeFruits: not electrons...
and stuff...
but how...
natural forces...
such as...
gravity, spacetime...
and other...
physics stuff...
are related...
Apr-01-09   Andrijadj: well,the point is not to mess with ruy lopez and THAT kind of theory:)))
Apr-01-09   ILikeFruits: hello andrijadi...
how do...
you do...
Apr-02-09   WilburTuna: There is no way a man of Oppenheimers intellect would have made some of those moves. Impossible actually. It's clear that he was letting his old friend Einstein win the game in fine fashion. I'm sure it made Einstein rather happy to win.
Apr-07-09   Dredge Rivers: <chillowack> I used the term <pompous know-it-all> because both of them thought their scientific expertise made them some sort of an oracle.

If we'd followed their advice, tens or hundreds of thousands would have died in the invasion of Japan, and Stalin would have gotten the H-Bomb first.

They both meant well, but Harry Truman knew more about the way the world actually works than both of them combined, and he was a country boy from Missouri.

Food for thought.

Apr-07-09
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  Absentee: <If we'd followed their advice, tens or hundreds of thousands would have died in the invasion of Japan, and Stalin would have gotten the H-Bomb first.>

Tens or hundreds of thousands dying in the bombing of Japan is clearly much better.

Apr-07-09   Dredge Rivers: <Absentee>

That's much fewer than there would have been for a ground invasion.

For those who wish to condem my fellow Missourian, Harry Truman, for deciding to drop the A-Bomb; ask youself these questions first:

1. Why did Japan start the war in the first place?

2. Why didn't they throw in the towel when it became hopeless? (Which happened at Iwo Jima, at the very latest.)

And don't even try to play the race card! We'd have dropped the Bomb on Germany, but they collapsed too fast. Besides Truman was no racist; he integrated the Armed Forces, didn't he?

I await a response.

Apr-30-09   WhiteRook48: 11...f6? 11...Be6 is a better defense. With 11...f6, Oppenheimer lets Einstein kill Black's pieces with the atom bomb.
Jun-14-09   Octal: I like cheese cake!
Jul-05-09   20MovesAhead: Now that's what i call the Move of An Einstein
Jul-19-09   kurtrichards: They are long dead but there will always be Einstein and Oppenheimer and their likes now and in the future. Genius minds will remain forever. Inventing this. Inventing that. Good intentions,good inventions. Bad intentions,bad inventions. Or their mix-up. There will always be stupids also. More of them. Genius and stupids a-plenty. But there is only one world. Our world. Where we live. Geniuses and stupids alike. Who wants to destroy it?

Don't think. Feel.
Don't argue with me. Just feel.

Aug-04-09   theagenbiteofinwit: Who would have figured two such geniuses of science would play romantic chess.
Oct-24-09   JimmyVermeer: I'm not at all surprised that a man of Oppenheimer's high intellect would play such poor chess. I have seen men far smarter than myself lose chess games against special ed students. Nobody can be great at everything. Except maybe Chuck Norris, but that's another story.
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