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Jun-27-05
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| Knight13: <Wait, isn't the knight you want to take d5 pinned to the king on f2 after ...Bc5?> That ruined our whole discussion. :( |
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| Jun-27-05 |
| beatgiant: <Milo>
<Wait, isn't the knight you want to take d5 pinned to the king on f2 after ...Bc5?>
<Knight13>
<That ruined our whole discussion. :(>
Now I'm confused. I thought we were talking about the position after 12...Kg3, so the king isn't on f2 anymore and the knight is not pinned. Was I wrong? |
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| Jun-27-05 |
| mymt: 12.Kg3 fxe5 13.dxe5 [instead of the games 13.fxe5]13. ...Bc5 14.Nxd5 [with the idea 14. ...exd5 15.Qxd5+ Rf7-to block the check & guard B on d7- 16.e6]14. ...Bf2+! 15.Kh3 exd5+ is that what you mean? Dont like that 12.Kg3 what about 12.a3? |
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| Jun-27-05 |
| aw1988: Uh, my idea was just to win the bishop on d7. :( |
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Jun-27-05
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| Knight13: I've posted earlier that White played Kg3 so when Black plays fxe4 white can play dxe5. And aslo for getting out of the f-file. |
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| Jun-28-05 |
| mymt: its me I just had trouble following your post |
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| Jun-28-05 |
| beatgiant: <mymt>
On the suggested 12. a3, Black can try 12...fxe5! which looks like a strong attack: 12. a3 fxe5 13. axb4 exd4 14. Nc2 d3+ 15. Ne3 Ng4+ wins the piece back with dividends. |
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| Jun-29-05 |
| mymt: <beatgiant> Im shot down in flames again,didnt consider dumping the B,nice one.Only other one I liked was 12.g3 fxe5 13.dxe5 Bc5 14.Qe2 |
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| Jun-29-05 |
| beatgiant: <mymt>
On 12. g3 fxe5 13. dxe5 Bc5 14. Qe2, Black takes advantage of the pin again with <14...Ng4+> winning a piece. |
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| Jun-29-05 |
| mymt: OH DEAR looks like Im stuck with that ugly 12.Kg3. is there nothing I can drum up with 12.g3 fxe5 13.Nxe5? |
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Jun-29-05
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| Knight13: <mymt: is there nothing I can drum up with 12.g3 fxe5 13.Nxe5?> After 12. g3 fxe5 13. Nxe5 Nxe5 14. dxe5 Bc5 15. Bd3 Bxe3+ 16. Bxe3 Qxb2+ 17. Kg1 d4! 18. Bd2 Bc6. Or 15. Qe2? Bxe3+ 16. Bxe3 d4! and White loses the bishop. (17. Bd2 d3+!! 18. Qe3 Ng4+). |
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| Jun-29-05 |
| mymt: only thing I can see is 17.Qc2 to block the check because 17.Bd2 gets hit by ...Qd4+ 18.Be3 Ng4+.Now maybe 17. ...Ng4+ 18.Kf3 Nxe3 19.Kxe3 d4+ 20.Ke2 |
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Jun-29-05
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| Knight13: <mymt> 17. Qc2 Qxc2+ 18. Bxc2 Ng4+ 19. Ke2 Rac8 20. Bb3 Nxe3 21. Kxe3 Rc3+ 22. Ke2 g5 and Black can wins endgame. I think 17. Qc2 is better than 17. Kg1, too. |
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| Jun-29-05 |
| mymt: 21. ...Rc3+ 22.Kd4 |
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| Jun-29-05 |
| mymt: <Knight13> I noticed your question about "sudden death" time control,it seems you havent played OTB Tournaments very often or you would surely have come accross it. Many chess club also use that time control to avoid adjournments.If you dont belong to a club you should join ,I think you will like it. |
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Jun-29-05
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| Knight13: <mymt> The reply to your last post here has been posted at the Kibitzer's Cafe, page 1269, by me. |
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Jun-29-05
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| Boomie: Although white is probably lost no matter what, there was a small resource on move 12 which holds the position for a while. 12. c2 e7 13. g3 e8 14. d3 h5 15. e1 ac8 16. e2 fxe5 17. dxe5 f5+ 18. h3 xf3 19. gxf3 c5 20. g2 (-1.19) D=14 |
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| Jun-29-05 |
| mymt: thanks <Boomie> Im afraid your right . <Knight13> saw your post & replied on page 1283 [I think it was] |
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| Jan-27-06 |
| MorphyMatt: is this the only game with notes by Morphy? |
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| Jan-27-06 |
| aw1988: No. Morphy annotated many more encounters between MacDonnell and LaBourdonnais. |
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| Jan-28-06 |
| morpstau: is this the only game with notes by Morphy |
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| Jan-28-06 |
| aw1988: No, and I just answered that... |
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| Nov-19-06 |
| slomarko: white played like drunk |
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Dec-25-07
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| whiteshark: The historically first <big clamp> ?! |
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Aug-08-09
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| just a kid: Very convincing play from la bourdonnais. |
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