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|Jan-19-06|| ||dakgootje: Veni, vidi, vici is a famous Latin phrase coined by Roman general and consul Julius Caesar in 47 BC; Caesar used the phrase as the full text of his message to the Roman senate describing his recent victory over Pharnaces II of Pontus in the Battle of Zela. Caesar's terse remark -- it translates to "I came, I saw, I conquered" -- simultaneously proclaimed the totality of his victory and served to remind the senate of Caesar's military prowess (Caesar was still in the midst of a civil war); alternatively, the remark can be viewed as an expression of Caesar's contempt for the patrician senate, traditionally representing the most powerful group in the Roman Republic.|
|Jan-19-06|| ||prinsallan: Lets say he said it while crossing the river, giving me and emperor a drawish line :D|
|Jan-19-06|| ||dakgootje: yup that will be the best solution, so hereby we officially decided he said it while crossing the river, even if someone in the future finds out he didnt even say it...that person is wrong for sure =)|
|Jan-19-06|| ||Stefan Lukke: Just finished watching the Topolov game - it was v good, I'm off home now, ave atqe vale.|
|Jan-19-06|| ||kevin86: An unusual and very elegant for follows 28 bxc6 29 ♕xc6+ Black must mad the sad choice of which rook to abandon with check! Note:if both rooks were each one square to the king-the same move would be an epaulette mate!|
With the text,mate follows by 29♗xb7+ ♔xb7 30 ♖g7+ ♔c8 31 ♕c7#
|Jan-19-06|| ||DanielBryant: No, "Alea iacta est" was the Caesar quote for when he crossed the Rubicon. It translates to "The dye is cast".|
|Jan-19-06|| ||dakgootje: <No, "Alea iacta est" was the Caesar quote for when he crossed the Rubicon.>|
no we just decided that he said it WHILE crossing the Rubicon -.-
<It translates to "The dye is cast".>
The original meaning was roughly equivalent to the English phrase "the game is afoot", but its modern meaning, like that of the phrase "crossing the Rubicon", denotes passing the point of no return on a momentous decision and entering into a risky endeavor where the outcome is left to chance.
|Jan-19-06|| ||Prugno: Here is the Caesar quotation in full according to Caius Suetonius Tranquillus: "Eatur quo deorum ostenta et inimicorum iniquitas vocat. Iacta alea est!" At least that is how my edition puts it...|
Returning to the game, does anyone know what happened to Ruban? He seems to have completely stopped playing chess around 1997, when he still was a strong GM. I've never heard any news about him since.
|Jan-19-06|| ||TheAlchemist: Ciao, <Prugno>! Benvenuto. Welcome and have a nice stay here at chessgames!|
Even Chessmetrics has him rated up to Jnuary 1, 1996: http://www.chessmetrics.com/player_...
He might have stopped to pursue other careers, maybe he even died (I hope not). I don't really know. This is his last game in the database: A Kovalev vs V Ruban, 1996. Perhaps it put him off :-)
|Jan-19-06|| ||Stonewaller2: <dakgootje> Wonder if J. Caesar's terse message was the inspiration for the British general who cabled, after annexing the Indian province of Sind to the Raj, "peccavi" ("I have sinned"). ;)|
|Jan-19-06|| ||keypusher: According to <Rubicon>, a new history book about the end of the Republic, Caesar was quoting Menander and said it in Greek. <anerriphthô kubos>|
Of course in English it should be translated "The die (not dye) is cast".
|Jan-19-06|| ||Stonewaller2: <keypusher> Well, that's Greek to me. Sine "dye?" ;)|
|Jan-19-06|| ||dakgootje: <According to <Rubicon>, a new history book about the end of the Republic, Caesar was quoting Menander and said it in Greek. <anerriphthô kubos>|
Yup thats probably true as i seem to recall Greek was the language of the Rome's elite at the time. Exempli gratia most likely Caesar's last words probably werent <et tu Brute?> as in Shakespeare's Julius Caesar, but more likely <και συ τεκνο&-
#957; (Kai su, teknon?)> which means in modern english 'Even you, my son?'
<Of course in English it should be translated "The die (not dye) is cast".> Aw...dye is much more fun to use: first the Rubicon was orange but then some kind of strange Roman and he said: 'lets dye the Rubicon' and thus the Rubicon isnt orange anymore ;-)
|Jan-19-06|| ||dakgootje: *looks back at previous comment*
O dear...someone knows how to insert greek marks?
|Jan-19-06|| ||keypusher: Not me. Clearly you're just <pretending> to know Greek anyway. :-)|
|Jan-19-06|| ||sciacca khan: Sic transit gloria mundi.|
|Jan-19-06|| ||psmith: Romanes Eunt Domus.
No, I will not write "Romani Ite Domum" 100 times.
|Jan-19-06|| ||BishopofBlunder: Here's hoping this game is "e pluribus unum".|
|Jan-19-06|| ||Drifter: Black is suitably pinished for giving away his dark square bishop early. The weakness of the dark squares around the king sticks out like dogs equiptment.|
|Jan-20-06|| ||kevin86: Sick tempered tyrannosaurus-what John Wilkes Booth really said when he shot President Lincoln on 4/14/1865.lol|
|Jan-20-06|| ||meloncio: <psmith> LOL, it's my favourite scene in Monthy Phyton's "The Life of Brian".|
|Jan-20-06|| ||dakgootje: <psmith> LOL :-)
< Here's hoping this game is "e pluribus unum"> <Sic transit gloria mundi>Esto perpetua
<keypusher> Crap, you got me there ;-) Well okay to be honest: it did show up the right way when i pasted it in this comment box (first typed in word) and thus assumed it would show up the right way at the kibitz-box-thing too and so i didnt check the preview box
|Jan-23-06|| ||prinsallan: <DanielBryant> Dont make things more confusing then they already are m8 ^^|
|Sep-24-09|| ||WhiteRook48: 29 Rg8!! will win|
|May-29-17|| ||tpstar: White to Play and Win after 19 ... Bxd5.
Even quicker is 28. Rc1 anticipating 28 ... a6 29. Bxc6.
29. Rg8?? will lose after 29 ... Qe1+ 30. Kg1 Rxg8+.
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