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|Nov-13-09|| ||Pepitin17: on vove 28. h6 is not a good move? Black has to give the queen for the knight and the attack is still rolling! or i am missjudging the position?|
|Nov-13-09|| ||Pepitin17: move*|
|Nov-13-09|| ||drnooo: after the h6 push does the queen f 1 check really work?? rook takes, then after any black move the rook returns to the h file with the same h 7 mate threat. what am I missing here?????????|
|Nov-13-09|| ||drnooo: it seems pepitin and I are puzzled about the puzzle. we both hold that the h 6 push works well enoughl if we are right and this is a repeat, surely somebody noticed the h push six months back|
|Nov-13-09|| ||drnooo: i am willing to grant that the four move check is quicker, but also its easier to spot, atleast it was to me: the h 6 puch is a little longer but equally forcing to mate, therefore this seems not quite the puzzle its cracked up to be with two fairly fast solutions|
|Nov-13-09|| ||jfshade: <VincentL: I solved this in about three minutes, I think. But I just wonder if I would have done so had I not seen the previous two days' puzzles.|
Immediately I was looking to put the queen in some unusual place. I saw this was not possible on the first move, and as the white queen is under threat, the first move must be a check with another piece.>
Just the same for me. Thanks to something <Patriot> said yesterday about the efficiency of assessing the threats first, I reasoned that since white was already at a material disadvantage and had three pieces, including the Queen, under attack, he should either
1. move the Queen to a safe square that would guard the other attacked pieces (impossible), or
Both Nh6 Be6 looked to lose more material for white, so I was pretty sure that if there was a win, it started with Ne7. Finding it from that point after Bxe7 or Kh7 was easy.
|Nov-13-09|| ||Eggman: IT took me a few minutes to get this one; an unusual mating pattern at the end.|
|Nov-13-09|| ||Ratul: I got it wrong. I played h6. Black can either delay mate by taking the knight on f5 or simply resign. Because |
h6, KhxQ, h7 is mate.
|Nov-13-09|| ||Smothered Mate: Ratul
<Black can either delay mate by taking the knight on f5 or simply resign.>
28... Qf1+! 29. Rxf1 Nxg4 30. f3 Ne3 31. Nxe3 Bxg7 32. hxg7 Kxg7
Black is better.
|Nov-13-09|| ||WhiteRook48: I had 28 Ne7+ but missed the rest|
|Nov-13-09|| ||drnooo: but you dont go f 3 after the knight takes queen just bring the rook back to h 1 and its still a forced mate in a few moves no matter what black does|
|Nov-13-09|| ||drnooo: actually i finally see that the pawn to h 6 is a win still and an easy one, but not a forced mate, so even though it wins and easily, it does not mar the puzzle|
|Nov-13-09|| ||FlashinthePan: I found this one in seconds, must have seen it before somewhere (pattern looks familiar).|
|Nov-13-09|| ||MaczynskiPratten: <Pepitin17, drnooo>, The snag with the 28 h6 line is that Black can play the simple Kh7 at some point - there is no quick way to dislodge the King with White's Knight 3 moves away from a check. Also remember White is a Rook down in the initial position! So even if he wins the Bishop on f6 or the exchange on f8, he is still losing. Hence in the Qf1+ line, if 30 Rh1, Kh7, 31 Bxf6 Nxf5, or 31 Nxe3 Bxg7.|
|Nov-13-09|| ||turbo231: A very good Friday puzzle,one these days I am going to solve a Friday's puzzle. Yeah that will be the day,in my dreams.|
|Nov-13-09|| ||TheBish: L Milman vs J Fang, 2005|
White to play (28.?) "Difficult" - White is down a rook for two pawns.
Well, I noticed that this happened at Foxwoods this year, and I know I saw a snippet of the game after it happened, maybe even this position (maybe in Chess Life). I remember it was a really cool combo, so let's give it a whirl...
With our queen attacked, it has to be forcing (check?). Ok, I see the pattern and it's coming back to me now.
28. Ne7+! Kh7
The alternative is 28...Bxe7 29. Bxe5+ and either mate on g7 with the queen, or Black must "part with the lady" with 29...Qg6 30. hxg6, after which White mates quickly with 30...f6 31. Qh5 and 32. Qh8# or 32. Qh7#.
Nice move, which brings back memories of Frank Marshall's famous queen sacrifice on g3 (as Black), which could be captured three ways, all roads leading to mate.
29...fxg6 (the other captures lead to the same finish) 30. hxg6+ Kxg7 31. Rh7#.
A unique mating pattern, one we won't be seeing too often! Another demonstration of the power of the double check. The final mating pattern paints a pretty picture: the knight supports the pawn, which in turn supports the rook, which delivers the final blow - very cool indeed!
|Nov-13-09|| ||njchess: I found this to be a bit easy for a Friday. I got it in seconds. The queen sac followed by the bishop sac was very elegant. Nice mating net.|
|Nov-14-09|| ||Smothered Mate: drnooo
<actually i finally see that the pawn to h 6 is a win still and an easy one, but not a forced mate, so even though it wins and easily>
28. h6 Qf1+ 29. Rxf1 Nxg4 30. Rh1 Kh7
and how does white win?
|Aug-03-10|| ||sevenseaman: The pieces keep on 'falling', into place and the puzzle unfolds, a beautiful symphony rising into an exhilarating crescendo.|
|Oct-11-10|| ||eightbyeight: This is the kind of queen sac Alekhine and Tal got to do daily and I wish I could do once.|
|Jan-23-11|| ||nockuout1: WOW !!!! BOOM !!!! What a game ,with the minor pieces..|
|Jan-23-11|| ||sevenseaman: If this is not daylight robbery then what is? And the aptest pun!|
|Feb-04-12|| ||Eduardo Bermudez: Nice Mate !!|
|Jul-02-12|| ||The Big Lebowski: What a beautiful combo and mate!|
|Jan-18-13|| ||Cemoblanca: "Fang me if you can". Fang (German) = Catch! ;)
Very nice game and the movie was also very cool! :) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0264464/
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