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Lev Milman vs Joseph Fang
"Defanged" (game of the day Jul-26-2009)
7th Foxwoods Open (2005), Connecticut, rd 6, Mar-26
Caro-Kann Defense: Classical Variation. Main lines (B18)  ·  1-0


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  patzer2: Without remembering I recommended 25. Qg4 for a weekend puzzle back in 2009, I instinctively went for 25. Qg4 for today's Saturday puzzle. However, I forgot all the detailed follow-up analysis.

Funny how some combinations stick in memory and I can play them at blitz speed, while others are almost completely forgotten.

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  morfishine: The home page position shows 25.?

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But when you open the game position, it gives White to move 25.

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  SonOfSteel: Curious - The home page prompts for the 25th move while displaying the position before the 28th move. this a trick question ? =0)

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  morfishine: <SonOfSteel> Thats what I saw too
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  SonOfSteel: Well, both positions are over my pay grade.
My first idea was to offer 28.h6... but, as "Smothered Mate" demonstrates, this is upended by 28...Qf1+ 29.Qd1... and white's lost.
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  agb2002: A classic CG puzzle already. It could perfectly inaugurate a new CG section called 'CG favorites', or the like.
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  offramp: 29.Qg6+!! is a Tunguska-Krakatoa move!
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  diagonalley: what a beautiful finish!
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  Richard Taylor: I found all this it is quite beautiful. The double check is what completes the picture or seals black's fate to use a cliche....Then a nice epalautte mate.
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  Richard Taylor: <al wazir: I see this is the third time I've solved this puzzle. I guess I have to forfeit the point.>

That doesn't matter, it for pleasure but also for improving (if you want to) so by repeating these combinations or tactics it helps your chess or your ability to see moves etc

I saw a tactic by Alekhine in one of his books and he commented "this is a tactic I hadn't known of before". It is clear that he and others such as Capablanca studied all aspects of chess and categorized hundreds of tactical positions.

Similarly the myth of Capablanca not studying is just that, as he studied hundreds of endings. I think all the really strong players even memorize many games famous and otherwise.

But we are here also to enjoy the beauty of chess.

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  Richard Taylor: My point, when I fail to solve a combination of problem I go back to it many times...It isn't pleasant to miss things but it helps me try to focus during a real game. In fact I have played many combinative games with some nice tactics not only in blitz, but OTB in Standard and in Correspondence.

I have also missed a lot of good ones and played my fair share of atrocious games, as I am only a woodpusher overall. But it's all fun and games.

Jan-30-16  wooden nickel: <morfishine: The home page position shows 25.?> Thanks for the right diagram.
Jan-30-16  wooden nickel: just realized that both diagrams are worthwhile!
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  thegoodanarchist: < offramp: 29.Qg6+!! is a Tunguska-Krakatoa move!>

Plus Santa Maria!

Jan-30-16  Coriolis: I think the front page should read: "wtp- 28" (not 25). Is 28. Qg6 (my guess) a sound move?
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  thegoodanarchist: Milman's bio says "He is an IM", while Fang's bio just says "International Master".

I find that odd, two bios conveying almost the same information. One is 4 words long but the other is only 2 words long, but has more than twice as many characters.

Also, the one with fewer characters conveys additional information about the players' gender.

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  Marmot PFL: Being forced (I think) this wasn't so hard to find. 28 Ne7+ Kh7 (Bxe7 Bxe5+) 29 Qg6+ and 30 hg6 mate
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  patzer2: Here's the game copied from Deep Fritz 15 with analysis of the combination starting with 25. Qg4!:

[Event "Foxwoods Open"]
[Site "Connecticut"]
[Date "2005.03.26"]
[Round "6"]
[White "Lev Milman"]
[Black "Joseph Fang"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B19"]
[PlyCount "61"]
[EventDate "2005.??.??"]

1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 dxe4 4. Nxe4 Bf5 5. Ng3 Bg6 6. h4 h6 7. Nf3 Nd7 8. h5 Bh7 9. Bd3 Bxd3 10. Qxd3 e6 11. Bf4 Bb4+ 12. c3 Be7 13. O-O-O Ngf6 14. Kb1 O-O 15. Ne5 c5 16. Qf3 Qb6 17. Nxd7 Nxd7 18. d5 exd5 19. Nf5 Bf6 20. Rxd5 Qe6 21. Bxh6 Ne5 22. Qe4 Nc6 23. Qf3 Ne5 24. Qe4 Nc6 25. Qg4 Qxd5 (25... Ne5 26. Rxe5 Qxe5 (26... Bxe5 27. Re1 g6 28. hxg6 Qxg6 29. Qf3 Bf6 30. Re4 Rad8 31. Rg4) 27. Bxg7 Kh7 (27... Bxg7 28. h6 Rfe8 29. hxg7 Qe4+ 30. Qxe4 Rxe4 31. Rh8#) 28. Bxf8 Rxf8 29. Rd1 Rg8 30. Qf3 Rd8 31. Rxd8 Bxd8 32. g4 Qe1+ 33. Kc2 Bg5 (33... b6 34. Nd6) 34. Qxb7 Qe2+ 35. Kb3 c4+ 36. Ka3 Qe8 37. Qxa7 Kg8 38. Kb4 Qe2 39. Qd4 Be7+ 40. Nxe7+ Qxe7+ 41. Kxc4) (25... Rfd8 26. Bxg7 Kh7 27. Bxf6 Qxf6 (27... Rg8 28. Qf4 Qxf6 29. Rd6 Qxd6 30. Nxd6 Raf8 31. Nxf7 Kg7 (31... Rg7 32. Qf5+ Kg8 33. Nh6+ Kh8 34. Qxf8+ Kh7 35. Nf7 Rxf7 36. Qxf7+ Kh8 37. h6 b6 38. Qg7#) 32. h6+ Kg6 33. h7 Rg7 34. Rh6#) 28. Rxc5) 26. Bxg7 Qd3+ (26... Kh7 27. Bxf6 Qd3+ 28. Kc1 Rg8 29. Qf4) 27. Ka1 Ne5 28. Ne7+ Kh7 (28... Bxe7 29. Bxe5+ Bg5 30. Qxg5+ Qg6 31. hxg6 f6 32. Qh6 Rf7 33. Qh8#) 29. Qg6+ fxg6 30. hxg6+ Kxg7 31. Rh7# 1-0

Copy and paste it to a chess program, and it should expedite a look at Deep Fritz 15's analysis of its best move alternatives.

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  patzer2: Don't know if others find it helpful, but for me I can expedite learning a combination by playing it out backwards on the computer.

For example with the six move mate starting with 28. Ne7+, I'll start with the position after 30...Kxg7 (diagram below)

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where the solution is obviously 31. Rh7#.

Then I progress to the next previous move in the combination after 29...fxg6 (diagram below)

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where the solution is mate-in-two with 30. hxg6 Kxg7 31. Rh7#.

When I can see the mate-in-two in a flash, I progress to the next previous move after 28...Kh7 (diagram below)

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where the solution is mate-in-three with 29. Qg6+ fxg6 30. hxg6 Kxg7 31. Rh7#.

After several repetitions when I can see mate-in-three in a flash, I progress to the next previous move in the combination after 27...Ne5 (diagram below)

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where the solution is 28. Ne7+ Kh7 (28... Bxe7 29. Bxe5+ Bg5 30. Qxg5+ Qg6 31. hxg6 f6 32. Qh6 Rf7 33. Qh8#) 29. Qg6+ fxg6 30. hxg6+ Kxg7 31. Rh7#.

P.S.: Sorry if this is too simple for some of the regulars here, but this is how I teach tactics and combinations to my young grandsons, one of whom at seven years of age is one of the strongest elementary age players in central Texas.

It's a take on the methodology in his favorite Chess book "Bobby Fisher Teaches Chess" which he's enjoying and taking everywhere with him. I'm sure it's a cause for curiosity from onlookers in his Tae Kwan Doe and Gymnastics classes.

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  whiteshark: repost of answer: "You're so right; it actually was slated to be move 25 (!) but I see now this is the third time we've used this combination starting from different points. I think it's a little too late in the day to change it; <oh well, you get an easy Saturday for a change.>"


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  kevin86: Nice combination: the bishop can't take on 25 because of the discovered check and mate by the queen.
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Jan-30-16  psmith: I see the same thing as <SonOfSteel>. I knew this was too easy for Saturday. I see other solvers are also starting with move 28.
Feb-03-16  blessingmandindi: What is the follow up if after 21.Bh6 gxh6. What is the correct sequence of forcing moves for white to finish off. I missed that totally, Eish!!!!!
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  perfidious: <Fischer Baby....In the early 70s, (Joe) Fang and his brother (whose name I forget) used to come into the local chess club where I played. He was a very strong player even then (I only got up to 1850 USCF or so), but loud and extremly obnoxious, and he loved to taunt players who he beat....>

Joe was always tough and I had a hard time with him, while blowing more than one won position did not help, but as noted by <Granny O Doul>, he was quite a decent guy, another of the strong players I used to see regularly in Boston area events, and actually a low-key personality, same as his brother Chris.

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