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Magnus Carlsen vs Peter Leko
Pearl Spring Chess Tournament (2009), Nanjing CHN, rd 1, Sep-28
Scotch Game: Classical Variation (C45)  ·  1-0
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Sep-29-09  whatthefat: <she must be paid in the lemon from the tree!>

Something lost in translation? Does anyone here speak idiot?

Sep-30-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  WannaBe: Why, it is quite simple, and very eloquent!

The tree, is the symbol/meaning of knowledge, ala Adam/Eve and Bible, however the lemon, is often represented as a sour/bitter fruit.

Quite unlike the apple that we all know of, hence; therefore, quite logically (If you are an honour graduate of the Vulcan Academy, like moi!)

Q.E.D. Mate in 2...

Sep-30-09  shakespeare: <It looks like Carlsen got away with one here. IMO it really looked like he sort of botched the opening by letting the e4 pawn fall that early>

definitely no mistake to do so - if you look at the position 4 moves later, with the enormous space advantage he gained - seems to be a good idea to sac e4...

Sep-30-09  zarg: <Kingscrusher>
Thx for your video analysis of the game!
Oct-01-09  kamalakanta: It seems to me that 31...Bf3 is a mistake, while 31...Qg6 is more precise, not allowing White to play f5 without at least losing a pawn.
Oct-01-09  kamalakanta: ...but it is answered by 32.Qe4, Bf5+ 33.Qg2, and the attack is neutralized...
Oct-03-09  felixd: Pfiou! A very complicated game!
Oct-03-09  kamalakanta: <jessicafischerqueen: For all those who don't know- CG.com pays the Master Commentators- which is one of the reasons we get such high quality choices, such as <Nigel Short> and <Natalia>.>

<Given this fact-->

<For a person who is TOO CHEAP TO BUY A MEMBERSHIP and support this great website- such as <Aiuta the Ungrateful Patzer-King>- to gratuitously insult the Commentators- is simply grotesque.>

<I advise all to put this Troll on permanent ignore. Why not? Nothing to lose, everything to gain.>

Could not agree more. I haven't seen one comment from this person, but will put in ignore-list if I do...does this troll go by any other name?

Oct-06-09  Ulhumbrus: After 15 d5 Black will get into trouble if his c pawn remains backward. However upon an immediate 15...c5, 16 dxc6 uncovers an attack upon the d6 pawn. This suggests 15...Rd8! defending the d6 pawn and so preparing the advance ...c5.

19...b5 is a sign of trouble, because after this move all of Black's Queen side pawns are exposed to attack.

Oct-12-09
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  Check It Out: It's probably been mentioned, but 23...Ng8 allowing 24.Rc6 caused serious problems, though black seemed to have a difficult position already.
Nov-21-09  cornflake: 19.Qb3! must have been an unpleasant move for Leko to see. After this move what does black do about b7 and the bind on c7? 19...b5 just weakens a6 and creates an easily exploitable hole on c6. Moreover, Black's counterplay on the kingside doesn't seem like it's enough to provide compensation.
Dec-05-09  Mr. Fahey: What an interesting game AND excellent commentary by Kingcrusher, an amusing fellow I might add. Thank you jessicafischerqueen for the link. And thank you all for help with elevating my own instruction for my students at the Lowell High School Chess Club, in SF. BTW, IM Dmitry Zilberstein volunteers each year to do a 25-30 board simul at Lowell, where I teach math. After 50 years of playing tournaments and 25 years coaching, the learning tools and tech combined w/young talents like yourselves is an inspiration. Thanks again.
Dec-21-09  aazqua: Comments such as these are just ridiculous:
<It looks like Carlsen got away with one here. IMO it really looked like he sort of botched the opening by letting the e4 pawn fall that early>

Uh no. I suspect that the world's strongest player didn't screw up his opening preparation at move 10. It's unusual for these guys to be out of book before 15 or 20 and you can be assured that they aren't casually overlooking dropped pawns in the opening.

Interesting matchup. Leko won the first four decisive games but Carlsen won the next five. I don't like Leko's chances going forward.

Dec-21-09
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  tamar: Carlsen points to 13...0-0 as inaccurate in his notes.

A later game, Nakamura vs Grischuk, 2009 went 13...Bh3 14 Bf3 Qf5 15 Re1 d5 16 Qb3 0-0 17 Nc3 Bg4 18 Bxd5 = which keeps White from getting such a big space advantage

Dec-30-09  hand banana:


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this position after 15.d5 is what carlsen was aiming for. he analyzed it beforehand, as i just read in chessbase magazine.

Dec-30-09  davegras: Questions for Chessgames or anybody: Why aren't there posted elo ratings on the scorecards? I notice that from time to time.
Dec-30-09
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  tpstar: <davegras> This game was a Live Event on site, which typically go straight into the database (with ratings as "?") compared to other gamescores where the PGN is uploaded in full. Sometimes the Administrators go back and insert their ratings for historical purposes, but only if they have time. =)
Dec-30-09  davegras: <tpstar> Thank you for the explanation!
Sep-29-10  morphy2010: f5!! strong move and decisive
Dec-21-10  anandrulez: Rybka vs Deep Sjeng, 2010

Sjeng improves with Bh3 , idea open the bishop and not castle early and make the bishop useless for sometime .

Dec-21-10
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  Eyal: <Sjeng improves with [13...]Bh3>

Kramnik already did it in 2001 (Morozevich vs Kramnik, 2001)... Nakamura vs Grischuk, 2009 (played a short while after Carlsen vs. Leko) also ended in a quick draw after this move. A major improvement for Black, of course, is that after the forcing sequence 13Bh3 14.Bf3 (defending against mate on g2) Qf5 15.Re1 d5 White doesnt get to play the space-gaining d5 himself - note that an immediate 13d5? Would be bad because of 14.Bd3.

Dec-21-10  anandrulez: Eyal : Great , you are updateed with openings :) . It appears that Rybka just follows the game Moro Kramnik and then black seizes the initiative ! Wonder why Leko chose a inferior 0-0 - maybe just outprepared by Carlsparov ?
Dec-21-10
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  Eyal: <Wonder why Leko chose a inferior 0-0 - maybe just outprepared by Carlsparov ?>

I suppose he was either caught unprepared or lacked the self-confidence to play ...Bh3, thinking that "Carlsparov" must have prepared something against it (this was very shortly after Carlsen's cooperation with Kasparov was announced, and the Scotch is known to have been one of Kasparov's openings...).

Feb-26-11
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  notyetagm: Carlsen is just so @#$%* good.
Jun-23-12
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  Naniwazu: <Wonder why Leko chose a inferior 0-0 - maybe just outprepared by Carlsparov ?>

LOL! So funny!

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