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Yue Wang vs Veselin Topalov
Pearl Spring Chess Tournament (2009), Nanjing CHN, rd 9, Oct-08
King's Indian Defense: Orthodox Variation. Gligoric-Taimanov System (E92)  ·  1/2-1/2

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Oct-08-09  marcwordsmith: My sense is that both players are still trying to win this one. My hat's off to both of them.
Oct-08-09
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  chessgames.com: Yes, the final round starts 5 full hours earlier than the others.

We hope to see people back later for the final round, and please don't forget about the 5 hour time shift. By the way, thanks to everybody for sticking around for all three rounds, especially WGM Pogonina who is "working overtime" today.

Oct-08-09  marcwordsmith: I kinda like White now, visually at least.
Oct-08-09
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  Natalia Pogonina: 45.Ng3 Nd6 46.Re1 h5! 47.Bh5 Kg5 and the activity of Black's pieces and d4-e4 pair compensates for the pawn.


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Oct-08-09  marcwordsmith: Maybe Black would like to play Rh8, followed by h5 and h4?
Oct-08-09  e4ia: Re1 and d3 maybe?
Oct-08-09
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  nasmichael: Glad there has been such activity from Nanjing, and wishing the players well. Glad also we have the Honorable Pogonina here helping us out!
Oct-08-09
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  Natalia Pogonina: Topalov is either playing safe (!?), or he has missed h5. This is a draw too.
Oct-08-09
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  Natalia Pogonina: 52...Rg4? now after 53.Rh3 White is winning a pawn.
Oct-08-09
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  Annie K.: I just got up... nice to catch one game still going & glad to see you're still around, Natalia. :)

Not awake enough to comment much otherwise, but that passed Black pawn is looking good.

Oct-08-09
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  Natalia Pogonina: Hi <Annie>! White has just played Nc3 with the idea to exchange Black's knight-blocker & try to promote the d-pawn. If Black plays carefully enough, Topalov should hold this, I think.
Oct-08-09  virginmind: fritz 11 thinks 56.Re7 was better
Oct-08-09  whiteshark: <56.Re7!> looks good. Either white gets ♙a7 or Nc8 have to stay on the edge.


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Oct-08-09
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  Natalia Pogonina: Probably Wang Yue was afraid of Black's counterplay connected with the h-pawn. Objectively speaking, Re7 was probably better indeed.
Oct-08-09
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  Natalia Pogonina: Ok, now we have "Draw You" playing as White. 58.Re6 was a try to play for a win, while Rg5 and Ne4 require no comments.
Oct-08-09  e4ia: What "game" is chessok.com covering?!
They have an entire diff podition and pgn this game!
Oct-08-09  e4ia: They changed it now!
Oct-08-09  whiteshark: Now it runs out of road.
Oct-08-09
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  Natalia Pogonina: Probably Wang Yue has a perverted love for saving such positions. Otherwise he would've tried to press for a win rather than end up in a position where he needs to be careful not to lose.
Oct-08-09
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  Natalia Pogonina: Ok, all three games drawn today. Thanks for watching and see you tomorrow!
Oct-08-09
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  Annie K.: <Natalia: <Probably Wang Yue has a perverted love for saving such positions.>>

I get that way sometimes too. :D

Thanks for the commentary!

Oct-08-09  e4ia: I'm curious to know what China is "doing" re training their up and coming young GMs both M and F ... and who are the main "teachers"?

They must have a formal school like Russia does/still has... and looking at what China has set up for their young gymnists, whom they virtually "kidnap" to gym camp at about age 6, no doubt they have a "chess factory" set up someplace! Look out for China in sheer numbers @ top levels men's and women's chess, in next 5-10 years!

Anyone know where "chess school" is and who main GM teachers are?

Oct-08-09  e4ia: Yes, thanks chessgames.com for this triple header and your time and excellent/lol N! comments Natalia!
Oct-08-09  birthtimes: Regarding China's chess program, there's an excellent, but somewhat outdated, book on that subject entitled "The Chinese School of Chess: The unique approach, training methods and secrets" by Liu Wenzhe. You can preview it at amazon.com.
Oct-08-09  Eyal: An early dxe5 followed by a queen exchange is usually considerd harmless for Black in the KID, and this game - as well as Wang Yue vs Radjabov, 2009 from the first round - certainly does nothing to change that impression. In fact, Wang Yue was in serious danger of losing here after his careless 26th move. It seems that Topalov missed rather good winning chances twice: first by 29...exf3 30.Bxf4 Ne4 31.Be3 (or 31.Re1 Nxf2 32.d6 Re8! 33.d7 Rd8) f5+ followed by fxg4 with a healthy pawn up; and a few moves later by 32...Nh3! 33.Bxh3 (or 33.Be3 Nf5 winning material) gxh3 34.Nc2 Kg6 35.Rh1 Rf8 36.Be3 Nb7! 37.Rxh3 Na5+ and Nxc4.
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